I am treating the whole thread in the tongue in cheek way it deserves. None of us are likely to change anything in terms of Brexit (presumably we're all chit chatting on here and none of us are doing a huge amount to actually influence anything - I am happy to be corrected on that but I imagine it to be the minority if at all), more so, none of us are likely to change each other's opinions either. On that basis it feels like this thread has been in stalemate for quite some time. At least pre-vote there might have been some point to it.

That said, I'm not trying to suggest that anyone should be telling anyone else what they can and can't discuss/argue about, so hopefully it doesn't sound like that's what I am trying to do.

I just think that if I see someone in the street wearing a Palace top then that's all I need to know about them to give them a nod and perhaps say "eeeeeagles" and I don't give two sh*ts about their political beliefs. I am prepared to bet most of us are the same. So an argument on a forum thread that often gets a bit beyond banter and whereby no one is likely to ever budge on their opinion that they had on page 1 of 500,000 (or whatever we are on) seems a wee bit fruitless.

That said, I probably shouldn't dip in here at all!

Please withdraw your comment

It is absolute nonsense to claim racism against Jews is considered "cool" it is a ridiculous thing to say though imagine you know that and are instead trying to start another argument. Are you seriously claiming for example that Ed Miliband is anti-Semitic?

What does exist is a refuseal by some on the left to distinguish between the policies of the state of Israel and people if Jewish faith.

Your comment is up there with "all men are rapist"

As I have pointed out before Hoof. If you don't want to engage with me, why do you keep making reference to me in your posts?

Ah Bernie Grant. The most selectively quoted person in recent political history. He became a hate figure because the press attributed a quote to him which was taken so out of context as to change the meaning.

In fact he had very friendly and close relationships with local commanders

I get it now....

Nigel Farage etc is NASTY.

Jeremy Corbyn is LOVELY.

That's cleared that up

After the Broadwater Farm Riot in which policeman Keith Blakelock was hacked to death by a predominantly black mob, who then tried to behead him and put his head on a pole, Grant said: "The youths around here believe the police were to blame for what happened on Sunday and what they got was a bloody good hiding." He didn’t actually say how much of the blame Keith Blakelock should be apportioned – quite a lot presumably?

Edited by hedgehog50 (26 Jan 2017 12.31pm)

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

Firstly there is no evidence that I have seen that Grant was a racist.

Secondly he was quoting what local people felt about the police and what had happened on the night yet it was reported that he was in some way celebrating what happened on the night. That was not true.

The racist taxi-driver remark was on Twitter. What was her context then?
You need to ask her what led her to make racist statements.
Just Google the Finish nurses thing, you will see even the Finish government responded. Go to the British Newspaper Library and read her original Hackney Gazette article. Stop trying to pretend she never said it! Or perhaps it is some Jewish conspiracy?
By the way, the earth is round, not flat. Do I need to provide some evidence of this?

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]