My original point "Labour don't get it" should have been expanded, what I meant was that Labour focuses on the stuff the voters don't care about but has no policies that will change the life of the average voter.

How many people actually care about foreign criminals being deported? The same with Trans issues, these are trivial compared with housing education, employment etc.

This week a Labour Shadow minister attacked the government for withdrawing from Afghanistan and not doing enough for the people. Going into Afghanistan was a Labour decision and a disaster and now the Americans have decided to withdraw we have no choice but to leave.

What do Labour expect the government to do? Of course apart from moaning this minister had no idea how to tackle this issue.

They are not going to get elected if they continue focusing on issues that only their activist fan base care about.

They need big ideas and I don't see any coming from them. Labour the part of protest.

Edited by Badger11 (14 Aug 2021 10.47am)

One more point

So he can blame hmg when the body bags start coming home! Absolute knob. Freedom has always had a cost.
Sadly life is that cost.

Starmer has also said "something must be done about gun licencing in the UK", in the aftermath of the shootings in Plymouth.
Whoever is running his PR team should be sacked.

As Badger was saying, people want to hear about issues at home.
The homeless
building affordable homes
Apprenticeships and job creation
The greening of new/existing industries and transport

Sorting out farming and fishing and supply links now they are being left to flounder in the wake of leaving the EU.

But the examples above would require policies, which seem to be lacking within Labour and other opposition parties. Even lacking within the UK Government, and no one is challenging.

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (14 Aug 2021 5.30pm)

I disengage, I turn the page.

Fondue for freedom sounds Green.

Red and Blue Army!

Corrected. How predictive text did that I don’t know. Sausage gingers. I mean mingers. No, sausage fingers.

COYP

And there you have it, to attempt to avoid deportation claim asylum! So much for all asylum seekers should be given a safe haven here. I suspect most have lived here for some considerable time ( whether legally or illegally) but have not thought about claiming asylum until it’s time to leave. The most common reason for a Jamaican asylum claim…..they are suddenly gay.
How anyone can object to these criminals being deported beggars belief. Next time people complain about HO not removing illegals/criminals please bear this in mind, it’s not always HO faukt

I blame the politicians and especially the Tories at least Labour are clear that they are pro immigration.

I was watching the Aussie Border Police documentary this guy arrived without a visa never left the airport straight back home on the next flight.

The courts and lawyers prevent deportation because the law allows them.

Now that we have left the EU the Tories can no longer hide behind that as an excuse. Sooner or later the membership will demand action.

One more point

No, the courts prevent deportation because the home scretary is acting unlawfully.

It is costing us a fortune to deport hardly anybody on flights.

15 in December out of 50, 7 out of 50 last week.

In the vast majority of cases the appeals will be successful.

They ought to chuck Patel out of the country on a flight dump her over the sea, she is probably one herself.

Wonder what the frogs are doing with the 55 millions.

Mentally weak UK is a nice little earner, when it is not surrendering.

Here's a bit of the history of Britain in Afghanistan. Not the best reading, particularly the withdrawal with one British survivor from the whole army. [Link]

Red and Blue Army!

Bankrupt indeed!