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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 03 May 23 9.52pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Not having to read your idiotic posts would be even nicer.

I think that perhaps we have made a collective mistake by responding to your provocations for a little too long.

You must have made one hell of an effort to read that one! It’s 10 months old!

You are under no obligation to ever reply to my posts. I won’t mind in any way.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 03 May 23 10.05pm

Originally posted by Willo

I simply could not miss the interview with Donald Trump. It was exceedingly enjoyable.
I believe he has an excellent chance of being re-elected President and I fervently hope he succeeds.
He can 'Make America Great Again'.

I do not have a proclivity to contribute to the 'News & Politics'
threads, indeed I rarely even peruse them, however I thought I would have a peek at a Trump discussion.
Having expressed my view I shall now concentrate my efforts on the football debates,leaving others to express their views.


Edited by Willo (03 May 2023 7.57pm)

I think, and certainly hope, he has next to no chance at all. His base will still be with him but he needs the independents too and all the accusations, and possible indications, will take their toll on them. I still don’t believe Biden intends to run and his recent announcement is a feint by the Dems to wrongfoot the GOP.

Whether he even gets the nomination is a huge question. The GOP I feel sure want rid of him.

As to “Making America Great Again” you cannot be serious! The only thing he ever made America was a laughingstock!

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 03 May 23 10.22pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The contrast between Trump and Biden is quite stark.

Trump looks and sounds like a young man in comparison.

Perhaps enough Americans will wake up to the Black Lives Matter con trick pulled on them last time and vote accordingly.

That Trump presents well and can hold effective rallies is unquestionable. It’s what he says and does which are questionable. Hitler presented well and held effective rallies. He was adored and followed by unquestioning millions too.

I am not suggesting Trump holds the same opinions as Hitler, only that the style has echoes.

We need to do better than the Germans did in the 1930s. We don’t have their excuses.

Biden doesn’t present well or hold rallies. He is though a careful, wise and experienced politician who leads in a collegiate way. He listens to advice before speaking or acting. He is dull, and often boring, but he is steady.

Give me the boring but wise over a flashy self opinionated bully any day.

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 03 May 23 11.06pm

My final contribution to this debate :

[Link]

 

The Dolphin Flag 04 May 23 7.14am

Trump would be way better than Biden even if he too is a t***!

 

Stirlingsays Flag 04 May 23 7.45am

Originally posted by The Dolphin

Trump would be way better than Biden even if he too is a t***!

This is essentially true.

What is happening in the world is far more important than whether we like someone's personality. As predicted and denied at the time the Democrats have been an utter disaster in both foreign policy and domestic spheres.

Criticism of Trump and his administration...as for any administration or power structure is valid within free societies. However, the 'anyone will do' mantra and indeed, any 'tactic will do' adopted by Democrats and their supporters has landed them and indeed the world in terrible waters. It was bad before but now it's reaching dangerous levels in multiple lanes which soon won't be able to be kicked down the road.

Personally, I don't want Trump back. He lies and he turns on a dime and on his previous supporters. He's an overpowered narcissist....well, they all are....but he's pretty obvious.

However, if it has to be a choice between Trump and Biden again.....a horrible choice that is a mockery of supposed meritocracy.....then Trump is the only way that some of today's madness decelerates.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 May 2023 8.24am)

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 04 May 23 8.15am

Originally posted by Willo

My final contribution to this debate :

[Link]

Published by the "trumpwhitehouse". Disputed by everyone with more than half a brain. And the facts.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 04 May 23 8.25am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

This is essentially true.

What is happening in the world is far more important than whether we like someone's personality. As predicted and denied at the time the Democrats have been an utter disaster in both foreign policy and domestic spheres.

Criticism of Trump and his administration...as for any administration or power structure is valid within free societies. However, the 'anyone will do' mantra and indeed, any 'tactic will do' adopted by Democrats and their supporters has landed them and indeed the world in terrible waters. It was bad before but now it's reaching dangerous levels in multiple lanes which soon won't be able to kicked down the road.

Personally, I don't want Trump back. He lies and he turns on a dime and on his previous supporters. He's an overpowered narcissist....well, they all are....but he's pretty obvious.

However, if it has to be a choice between Trump and Biden again.....a horrible choice that is a mockery of supposed meritocracy.....then Trump is the only way that some of today's madness decelerates.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 May 2023 7.46am)


You prove what I have long believed. That the title of this thread is inappropriate. There is no bias against Trump. There are only levels of disdain.

What you write is your dislike for Biden and the Democrats in general, rather than any defence of Trump. Your bias against them is extremely obvious and well rehearsed in these pages and not shared by people like me. You are as entitled to your view as I am to mine, but no more so. It's not a fact. It's an opinion that may be valued against others. My own opinion is that such a valuation won't be needed as I don't believe either will be on the ticket. Time will tell.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 04 May 23 8.36am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle


You prove what I have long believed. That the title of this thread is inappropriate. There is no bias against Trump. There are only levels of disdain.

What you write is your dislike for Biden and the Democrats in general, rather than any defence of Trump. Your bias against them is extremely obvious and well rehearsed in these pages and not shared by people like me. You are as entitled to your view as I am to mine, but no more so. It's not a fact. It's an opinion that may be valued against others. My own opinion is that such a valuation won't be needed as I don't believe either will be on the ticket. Time will tell.

I would suggest that anyone reading your post here who isn't aware of what this thread was about and how it went and indeed who said what and who was right about what they said it's all available to them....indeed some of the nutty stuff said in this thread was quite incredible.

But hey, I'll gladly say to any objective reader....if you read through this thread and end it thinking Wisbech's takes and those like him are still what you believe, then good luck to you my man.


Edited by Stirlingsays (04 May 2023 8.37am)

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 04 May 23 9.01am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I would suggest that anyone reading your post here who isn't aware of what this thread was about and how it went and indeed who said what and who was right about what they said it's all available to them....indeed some of the nutty stuff said in this thread was quite incredible.

But hey, I'll gladly say to any objective reader....if you read through this thread and end it thinking Wisbech's takes and those like him are still what you believe, then good luck to you my man.


Edited by Stirlingsays (04 May 2023 8.37am)

I am content with that! The few objective readers here have already done so, and commented. Most of that which I predicted is slowly coming to pass. As I have always said, be patient.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 04 May 23 9.12am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I am content with that! The few objective readers here have already done so, and commented. Most of that which I predicted is slowly coming to pass. As I have always said, be patient.

Well, hopefully we will both still be around in 2030 or whenever Trump and Biden are history to say to the other, 'I told you so'.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 04 May 23 10.58am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Well, hopefully we will both still be around in 2030 or whenever Trump and Biden are history to say to the other, 'I told you so'.

I certainly hope so too, even though I would be 86 in 2030 it still beats the hell out of the alternative.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 04 May 23 11.38am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I certainly hope so too, even though I would be 86 in 2030 it still beats the hell out of the alternative.

Yep, there's no fun in pushing up daisies. Life is hard enough as it is so good health to you and all Hol's readers.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

cryrst Flag The garden of England 04 May 23 6.08pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yep, there's no fun in pushing up daisies. Life is hard enough as it is so good health to you and all Hol's readers.

Although without knowledge of it, the afterlife may be much better than our reality

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 04 May 23 6.19pm

Originally posted by The Dolphin

Trump would be way better than Biden even if he too is a t***!

Jimmy Carter would be way better than Biden.

 

PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 04 May 23 6.23pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That Trump presents well and can hold effective rallies is unquestionable. It’s what he says and does which are questionable. Hitler presented well and held effective rallies. He was adored and followed by unquestioning millions too.

I am not suggesting Trump holds the same opinions as Hitler, only that the style has echoes.


Biden doesn’t present well or hold rallies. He is though a careful, wise and experienced politician who leads in a collegiate way. He listens to advice before speaking or acting. He is dull, and often boring, but he is steady.

Give me the boring but wise over a flashy self opinionated bully any day.

Hitler sent his army & flags to the East. Trump didn't.

Biden did.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 04 May 23 8.38pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That Trump presents well and can hold effective rallies is unquestionable. It’s what he says and does which are questionable. Hitler presented well and held effective rallies. He was adored and followed by unquestioning millions too.

I am not suggesting Trump holds the same opinions as Hitler, only that the style has echoes.

We need to do better than the Germans did in the 1930s. We don’t have their excuses.

Biden doesn’t present well or hold rallies. He is though a careful, wise and experienced politician who leads in a collegiate way. He listens to advice before speaking or acting. He is dull, and often boring, but he is steady.

Give me the boring but wise over a flashy self opinionated bully any day.

[Link]

Apparently the guy who thinks that children should get to decide what sex they are and be able to get physical operations that permanently alter them.....apparently he's careful and wise.

Biden is a disaster and the people who supported him have to come to accept that they let emotion come before reason.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 May 2023 8.41pm)

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 04 May 23 9.03pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That Trump presents well and can hold effective rallies is unquestionable. It’s what he says and does which are questionable. Hitler presented well and held effective rallies. He was adored and followed by unquestioning millions too.

I am not suggesting Trump holds the same opinions as Hitler, only that the style has echoes.

We need to do better than the Germans did in the 1930s. We don’t have their excuses.

Biden doesn’t present well or hold rallies. He is though a careful, wise and experienced politician who leads in a collegiate way. He listens to advice before speaking or acting. He is dull, and often boring, but he is steady.

Give me the boring but wise over a flashy self opinionated bully any day.

He is a dithering old duffer who does not like England very much.

I can see why you like him.

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 04 May 23 9.38pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yep, there's no fun in pushing up daisies. Life is hard enough as it is so good health to you and all Hol's readers.

Thanks. Only today a friend told me his wife has been confirmed as suffering from dementia, so they are both facing an uncertain future. So your good health wishes are reciprocated.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 04 May 23 9.43pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Hitler sent his army & flags to the East. Trump didn't.

Biden did.

No he didn't. He has allowed the USA to meet its Nato obligations.

Trump wanted to lessen the USA's involvement in Nato and would have held the door open for Putin to walk all over Ukraine.

 


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