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 npn  Crowborough 02 Mar 17 4.26pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Do you not think the public deserve to know what we are aiming for before article 50 is triggered. I'm also still interested in examples of who you mean by some types hating everything about their own country and it's history seems to be the norm. If you can't it completely invalidates your argument. I really think you're misunderstanding what this is all about. The Lords have asked for the Article 50 legislation to include an amendment stating that EU citizens currently resident in the UK will be allowed to remain. The government don't want to enshrine that in law, because we haven't (not for want of trying) got agreement from the EU that that courtesy would also be extended to UK citizens resident in the EU. It seems totally fair enough to me. Nobody is being used as a bargaining chip, it's simply a tit-for-tat agreement which is for the best for everyone involved, but Merkel and Junker won't discuss until Article 50 is invoked, therefore we quite simply cannot enshrine our part in UK law, or we are deserting our own citizens in the EU and leaving them at the mercy of whatever the EU choose to do to them. If I were a UK citizen in the EU, I'd want to be reassured that my government is looking out for my interests.
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| elgrande bedford 02 Mar 17 4.26pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
If the deal means that we deport lots of Europeans (which the Lords quite rightly poo pooed) will Theresa May be up there with Idi Amin? Why don't you answer npn,s point,both Merkel and junkers kicked out May's idea.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 02 Mar 17 5.16pm |
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Originally posted by elgrande
Why don't you answer npn,s point,both Merkel and junkers kicked out May's idea. Which shows we are on a hiding to nothing and will cut off our (collective) noses to spite our face. I still think a lot of people (who voted leave) are going to be very disappointed when Brexit occurs.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 02 Mar 17 5.31pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Which shows we are on a hiding to nothing and will cut off our (collective) noses to spite our face. I still think a lot of people (who voted leave) are going to be very disappointed when Brexit occurs. Not as disappointed as those who voted Remain.
We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell] |
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| elgrande bedford 02 Mar 17 5.47pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Which shows we are on a hiding to nothing and will cut off our (collective) noses to spite our face. I still think a lot of people (who voted leave) are going to be very disappointed when Brexit occurs. Which goes to prove the big powers in Europe are trying to flex their collective muscles...in a desperate attempt to keep the whole thing together,they know darn well that if we get what we want....others will follow.
always a Norwood boy, where ever I live. |
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 Hrolf The Ganger 02 Mar 17 6.43pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Which shows we are on a hiding to nothing and will cut off our (collective) noses to spite our face. I still think a lot of people (who voted leave) are going to be very disappointed when Brexit occurs. Planet Gusset. Hamstring yourself before you enter negotiations by removing bargaining chips.
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| Part Time James 02 Mar 17 7.15pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Which shows we are on a hiding to nothing and will cut off our (collective) noses to spite our face. I still think a lot of people (who voted leave) are going to be very disappointed when Brexit occurs. Only if it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. An unworkable compromise as a result of too much influence from people who are dying to say "I told you so".
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 02 Mar 17 7.24pm |
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Originally posted by Part Time James
Only if it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. An unworkable compromise as a result of too much influence from people who are dying to say "I told you so". I'm not sure people want to say I told you so. I for one want it to work.
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| Part Time James 02 Mar 17 7.25pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
I'm not sure people want to say I told you so. I for one want it to work. Fair play, I wasn't accusing you of it. I think there are plenty of people that do want to see it fail just so they can get some kind of weird kick out of it though.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 02 Mar 17 7.37pm |
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Originally posted by Part Time James
Fair play, I wasn't accusing you of it. I think there are plenty of people that do want to see it fail just so they can get some kind of weird kick out of it though. I do think it will go tits up though. I hope I'm wrong.
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Kermit8  Hevon 07 Mar 17 6.45pm |
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The House of Lords does it again. A fine institution Looking out for the UK's best interests on exit.
Big chest and massive boobs |
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| Hrolf The Ganger 07 Mar 17 6.55pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
The House of Lords does it again. A fine institution Looking out for the UK's best interests on exit. Chuckle.
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| Part Time James 07 Mar 17 7.02pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
I do think it will go tits up though. I hope I'm wrong. I'm starting to think it will now as well......
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| Part Time James 07 Mar 17 7.03pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
The House of Lords does it again. A fine institution Looking out for the UK's best interests on exit. It's good that after all the bickering on here, you've still got a sense of humour! Fair play to you!
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 07 Mar 17 7.09pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
The House of Lords does it again. A fine institution Looking out for the UK's best interests on exit. Well Lord Kermit, their initials are HOL !
We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell] |
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| Sedlescombe Sedlescombe 07 Mar 17 7.09pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
The House of Lords does it again. A fine institution Looking out for the UK's best interests on exit. Should be elected....
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| Kermit8 Hevon 07 Mar 17 7.16pm |
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Originally posted by Part Time James
I'm starting to think it will now as well......
So what if we have to pay £60billion on exit and so what if we are leaving the biggest economic trade block in the world and who cares if it takes a decade to get trade deals with countries like Canada sorted? And it was fine that UKIP and Boris and Michael and others used ideology and waffle to persuade the impressionable. Politics is fun again. Just a protest vote that has got way out of hand really.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 07 Mar 17 7.18pm |
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Originally posted by Sedlescombe
Should be elected.... They've been around the block and spent decades in the business a fair few of them and with age comes wisdom. They don't have to adhere to party whips and are free to express. A wonderful part of our establishment.
Big chest and massive boobs |
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| Hrolf The Ganger 07 Mar 17 7.22pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
So what if we have to pay £60billion on exit and so what if we are leaving the biggest economic trade block in the world and who cares if it takes a decade to get trade deals with countries like Canada sorted? And it was fine that UKIP and Boris and Michael and others used ideology and waffle to persuade the impressionable. Politics is fun again. Just a protest vote that has got way out of hand really. Not really. More a way out of the easily corruptible United States of Europe before it inevitably happens.
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