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Stirlingsays Flag 07 May 23 10.33pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

What is ridiculous is to assume there is an analogy of anything, other than the tactics. Which work, which is why they were used in the first place.

No one disputes that many who fought Hitler were right-wing and no suggestion has been made to the contrary.

Nor has anything been said, in this thread, about the policies espoused by Trump. Only the tactics.

If people feel uncomfortable about such similarities being pointed out and draw their own conclusions then that's for them to reflect on.

The level of dishonesty is, indeed, off the charts.

No, you're the ridiculous one when it was you who mentioned the Hitler name.

The tactics which Hitler used weren't new and mass rallies that been used before and since. The civil rights movement used the same tactics....so would you bring Hitler's name up there?

There is no relevance in bringing up Hitler at all other than a blatant example of your TDS.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 07 May 23 11.08pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

If those tactics work then shouldn't he?

They did for him, and continue to with some now. Others have witnessed the reality and turned away. Which in somewhere like the USA is possible.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 07 May 23 11.14pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

No, you're the ridiculous one when it was you who mentioned the Hitler name.

The tactics which Hitler used weren't new and mass rallies that been used before and since. The civil rights movement used the same tactics....so would you bring Hitler's name up there?

There is no relevance in bringing up Hitler at all other than a blatant example of your TDS.

I used it for the plainly obvious reason that it is the best-known example of such tactics in the past 100 years.

Only those who want to see other associations and feel they transmit taint are trying to distance themselves. Which, of itself, is revealing.

Would I use it if we were discussing the civil rights movement? Probably, but we aren't. This is a Trump thread.

 


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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 08 May 23 7.50am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

The most recent is when, in the White House after a series of disasters, he cried out "Where's my Roy Cohn?"

Here are some articles which deal with Trump's relationship with Cohn. They will clarify it for you if indeed you are actually in any doubt. There are quotes from him in them, but you need to find them.

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As to the second matter, I am surprised you remember that story. Whilst true it was a long time ago and not something I have mentioned to anyone for a long time. I had not thought of it as modern slavery, because when it happened such a term didn't exist and what happened to her was depressingly familiar. I suppose, on reflection, some would describe it that way, although I am not sure I do. She went there of her own free will but then found herself trapped. She was able to leave but lacked the resources to do so.

You have done nothing to show that Trump ever acknowledged a debt to Cohn, again the fevered imagination of your wandering mind.

It's OK to be wrong but best to quit when you're behind

Edited by HKOwen (08 May 2023 7.50am)

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 08 May 23 8.20am

Originally posted by HKOwen

You have done nothing to show that Trump ever acknowledged a debt to Cohn, again the fevered imagination of your wandering mind.

It's OK to be wrong but best to quit when you're behind

Edited by HKOwen (08 May 2023 7.50am)

There are enough quotes, along with the story of their relationship which is uncontested, in those articles to demonstrate that Trump relied on, learned from and was indebted to Cohn. That's not imagined by me. It's reported by the MSM media so if you want to be pedantic and pick a fight, kindly do so with them.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 08 May 23 8.58am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Maybe you need to go back to nursery school to learn the basics of how to read. I also, after your persistent nitpicking, used "routinely" to qualify it so that people like you can understand. It seems as though you are just interested in picking nits than in gaining understanding. I am so glad I am not you.

You'll be comparing me to Hitlet next.

 

HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 08 May 23 9.10am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

There are enough quotes, along with the story of their relationship which is uncontested, in those articles to demonstrate that Trump relied on, learned from and was indebted to Cohn. That's not imagined by me. It's reported by the MSM media so if you want to be pedantic and pick a fight, kindly do so with them.

It's ok to be wrong, just stop digging.

What you stated is incorrect, just move on.

Your interpretation of something does not make it a fact.

I know your RDD won't allow you to accept this but that's not your fault.


 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 08 May 23 9.14am

Originally posted by georgenorman

You'll be comparing me to Hitlet next.

As I have never heard of Hitlet, that's unlikely.

As I have no interest in you personally, it's extremely unlikely.

 


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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 08 May 23 9.16am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

The most recent is when, in the White House after a series of disasters, he cried out "Where's my Roy Cohn?"

Here are some articles which deal with Trump's relationship with Cohn. They will clarify it for you if indeed you are actually in any doubt. There are quotes from him in them, but you need to find them.

[Link]

[Link]

[Link]

As to the second matter, I am surprised you remember that story. Whilst true it was a long time ago and not something I have mentioned to anyone for a long time. I had not thought of it as modern slavery, because when it happened such a term didn't exist and what happened to her was depressingly familiar. I suppose, on reflection, some would describe it that way, although I am not sure I do. She went there of her own free will but then found herself trapped. She was able to leave but lacked the resources to do so.

Unlike you I have a good memory of recent events, you posted this not so long ago when you were at the peak of your self aggrandisement, changing the lives of ex prisoners, generous benign land lord, positively affecting the lives of thousands of your previous employees etc.

You claimed to have closed sections of a Catholic newspaper but then pretended your post was a jest when the level of derisions was louder than a 747 over head.

Keep posting this stuff as it makes many on here smile

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

Stirlingsays Flag 08 May 23 9.20am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

As I have never heard of Hitlet, that's unlikely.

As I have no interest in you personally, it's extremely unlikely.

God knows why you still waffle about Trump so much.

It's almost like you lot want to will him back as that's what all this is doing.

DeSantis was doing very nicely gaining support but now the Trump train is full steam ahead.

As someone who thinks both parties should have moved on from these political fossils it's quite discouraging.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 08 May 23 9.20am

Originally posted by HKOwen

It's ok to be wrong, just stop digging.

What you stated is incorrect, just move on.

Your interpretation of something does not make it a fact.

I know your RDD won't allow you to accept this but that's not your fault.


Who are you to declare "it's wrong"? How frigging arrogant.

At best it's just a matter of opinion. One I strongly disagree with.

Your interpretation of something does not make it a fact.

Kindly go take a long hard look in a mirror before mounting your high horse again. Your obsession with trying to find fault with others is not healthy.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 08 May 23 9.25am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Who are you to declare "it's wrong"? How frigging arrogant.

At best it's just a matter of opinion. One I strongly disagree with.

Your interpretation of something does not make it a fact.

Kindly go take a long hard look in a mirror before mounting your high horse again. Your obsession with trying to find fault with others is not healthy.

You are telling someone else to take a long hard look in the mirror!? You must have sold yours old bean.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 08 May 23 9.30am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

God knows why you still waffle about Trump so much.

It's almost like you lot want to will him back as that's what all this is doing.

DeSantis was doing very nicely gaining support but now the Trump train is full steam ahead.

As someone who thinks both parties should have moved on from these political fossils it's quite discouraging.

That's an odd comment. The post you responded to didn't mention Trump.

So long as he is in the news and being discussed here I will add my thoughts if I so choose.

I would be delighted if he just faded into political obscurity and the only thing of interest about him was how and when he faces justice.

I have no wish to see another Trump/Biden match off either. Time for a fresh approach from both.

 


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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 08 May 23 10.03am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Who are you to declare "it's wrong"? How frigging arrogant.

At best it's just a matter of opinion. One I strongly disagree with.

Your interpretation of something does not make it a fact.

Kindly go take a long hard look in a mirror before mounting your high horse again. Your obsession with trying to find fault with others is not healthy.

Thanks for making me smile again.

I shall defer to you on arrogance as it is something you are much closer to than myself.

Enjoy the Bank holiday

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 08 May 23 12.45pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You are telling someone else to take a long hard look in the mirror!? You must have sold yours old bean.

Wrong as usual. There is a full length one just behind my desk. I am obliged to look at myself every time I sit or stand. Just be grateful you don’t have to. I wouldn’t want you having to wonder at the vitality that open mindedness at my age delivers and comparing it to the effects of prejudice in yourself.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 08 May 23 12.50pm

Originally posted by HKOwen

Thanks for making me smile again.

I shall defer to you on arrogance as it is something you are much closer to than myself.

Enjoy the Bank holiday

Your deference is misplaced. Sure I can be arrogant at times when confronted with specious nonsense but not in this case. I was merely pointing out the obvious.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 08 May 23 1.12pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Wrong as usual. There is a full length one just behind my desk. I am obliged to look at myself every time I sit or stand. Just be grateful you don’t have to. I wouldn’t want you having to wonder at the vitality that open mindedness at my age delivers and comparing it to the effects of prejudice in yourself.

I quite like this post...bit of pathos....nice snapback at the end....doesn't go on forever....quite well written it has to be said.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 May 2023 1.12pm)

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 08 May 23 2.50pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Wrong as usual. There is a full length one just behind my desk. I am obliged to look at myself every time I sit or stand. Just be grateful you don’t have to. I wouldn’t want you having to wonder at the vitality that open mindedness at my age delivers and comparing it to the effects of prejudice in yourself.

This response implies a reflection which is reassuring news.

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 08 May 23 3.12pm

Originally posted by HKOwen

Unlike you I have a good memory of recent events, you posted this not so long ago when you were at the peak of your self aggrandisement, changing the lives of ex prisoners, generous benign land lord, positively affecting the lives of thousands of your previous employees etc.

You claimed to have closed sections of a Catholic newspaper but then pretended your post was a jest when the level of derisions was louder than a 747 over head.

Keep posting this stuff as it makes many on here smile

I have perfectly good memory of the events, as I was involved. You don't. You are just spinning some long-forgotten comments to satisfy this strange desire you have to continuously post vitriol, rather than stay on subject. It's seriously weird. As you seem so interested here is the truth.

The tenant who is an ex-prisoner has changed his own life. I saw him yesterday, and have exchanged texts today. If ever there was an example of how the prison system can help reform people, he is it. He is a lovely chap. His appearance is fearful, but he has a heart of gold. I played a tiny role in accepting him when others didn't. He now works and is just moving from one of my units to a bigger one. You can take the p*ss as much as you like, but I am satisfied with what I have done.

I haven't had thousands of employees! I have had a few dozen and always tried to be a responsible and compassionate employer, primarily because my experience taught me that people generally perform better as a consequence. Of course, some took advantage and then I could be very straightforward. I once instantly dismissed a nurse I caught sleeping on duty. The trouble was she originated from Zimbabwe and started a tribunal action, claiming racial discrimination, which she later dropped, assumedly on advice.

I don't think I would have claimed I closed a section of a Catholic Newspaper on my own! It did close its comments section when the moderation requirements became too much for it to cope with. It was populated by several extremely conservative thinkers who routinely posted hard-line intransigence that brooked no argument. I, along with a couple of others, pointed out their weaknesses, much as I do here. So they just closed it. I must have contributed to that.

What any of that has to do with Trump is beyond me though!

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 08 May 23 3.13pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I quite like this post...bit of pathos....nice snapback at the end....doesn't go on forever....quite well written it has to be said.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 May 2023 1.12pm)

That's kind. Thank you.

 


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