Whatever our thoughts on AP and many of us on here have wildly differing views we all want Palace to do well.
At the moment and for the last 10 months (other than the Cup) we haven't.
So - either the players are not good enough or the Manager isn't doing his job properly.
Our players on paper are good enough to finish in the top 10 if organised and directed and managed properly.
In my opinion that is not happening - I don't see a team with spirit or a game plan nowadays.
I don't expect us to win the League or get into Europe but I do want to see improvements.
Our playing staff has improved - even though some good players have been let go - but we are still doing badly - why?
The Manager has been supported financially and seems to get his way on most things but still we can't get it right.
Think about this - how many points would you have expected from the following games - West Brom (h), Bournemouth (h), West Ham (h), Burnley - I expected 7/8 points in all honesty - instead we have one point from those games and we have scored three goals and let in 6.
Just not good enough - and this against teams who we need to get points off.
I am convinced that AP will take us down if we are not careful.
Let's see what the Owners think.
PS - we will probably beat City in two weeks time - that would be just like CPFC!!

cucking thing is I have been following palace since 1978, I was six when my uncle first started taking me. Then I went on my own as soon as my mum would let me, think I was about 10. So thats over 35 years behind the red and blue, To have blokes that havn't been off thier mums tit that long digging you out over a difference of opinion is annoying.

We all want Palace to do well. My view is that AP has assembled a squad that are better than his managergerial expericance can handle.

It seems quite obvious to anyone who has a basic knowledge of football that the players are almost playing within themselves to fit his way of playing. When we went two up front we battered Burnley. But as is the way with AP he will only revert to that after teams have had a 45 minute head start, or a goal or two. That arrogance is what IMO will take us down.

..but we are not playing badly, we are making individual player mistakes and having a bit of a problem with luck that is all, in every game we are creating good opportunities to score and creating opportunities to get points, if we were not doing this then yes I'd agree that Pardew is in trouble, all you doom and gloomers are doing is making yourselves look very silly for when Mr Pardew eventually sorts out these very minor problems .. and every team below us in this league isn't shit, they have earned their right to play in this league.

No problem, Danny. I don't agree with you but I certainly don't want to get into a slanging match with you or anyone else about it.

And I'm glad I stopped being a mod.

...I've forgotten what they were, can you remind me?

You sumg w***er. I've been supporting the club since I was old enough to walk.Well over 30 years now f*** off before I decide to take offence.