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A1969Eagle Redhill 25 Nov 20 11.54am
we played a very poor Burnley team and lost!! We need a leader on the pitch yes Cahill as for the bench, its Ray, Roy when the pan tv shots at him looks clueless because when was the last time you saw this manager have the "Balls" to make a positive change, He had 4 defenders on the bench because he wanted to get the 1st goal, then defend like Brighton match perhaps? Originally posted by taylors lovechild There wasn't a lot in it last night. But for a stupid mix up the game may have ended very differently. Unlike in some games in the last 12 months I think last night was less about tactics and more about a lack of quality with the final pass repeatedly misplaced. Burnley were back to full strength at the back and they are capable of shutting out much better teams than us when they have their best defence (the only team to get a clean sheet at Anfield in something like 60 games). I was veering towards Roy out, but there are signs of improvement and I think he should steer the ship until the end of the season providing we don't see a cataclysmic slump like the end of last season. Stick Cahill back in and we should look a lot more solid and actually have a leader on the pitch.

A1969Eagle

Redhill 25 Nov 20 11.54am

we played a very poor Burnley team and lost!!

We need a leader on the pitch yes Cahill

as for the bench, its Ray, Roy when the pan tv shots at him looks clueless because when was the last time you saw this manager have the "Balls" to make a positive change, He had 4 defenders on the bench because he wanted to get the 1st goal, then defend like Brighton match perhaps?

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

There wasn't a lot in it last night. But for a stupid mix up the game may have ended very differently. Unlike in some games in the last 12 months I think last night was less about tactics and more about a lack of quality with the final pass repeatedly misplaced. Burnley were back to full strength at the back and they are capable of shutting out much better teams than us when they have their best defence (the only team to get a clean sheet at Anfield in something like 60 games). I was veering towards Roy out, but there are signs of improvement and I think he should steer the ship until the end of the season providing we don't see a cataclysmic slump like the end of last season. Stick Cahill back in and we should look a lot more solid and actually have a leader on the pitch.

TheBigToePunt 25 Nov 20 3.32pm
Originally posted by Wilbraham413 Roy is the type of manager who can take a 20th place team and get them to 15th. And he can take a 10th place team and get them to 15th. Apart from when he took West Brom to 11th. Or Fulham to 7th place, then to the Europa League final. Or us to 11th, 12th and 14th.

TheBigToePunt

25 Nov 20 3.32pm

Originally posted by Wilbraham413

Roy is the type of manager who can take a 20th place team and get them to 15th. And he can take a 10th place team and get them to 15th.

Apart from when he took West Brom to 11th. Or Fulham to 7th place, then to the Europa League final.

Or us to 11th, 12th and 14th.

eaglesdare 25 Nov 20 4.46pm
Whoever we have as manager its always the same!

eaglesdare

25 Nov 20 4.46pm

Whoever we have as manager its always the same!

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Nov 20 5.00pm
There of course has been criticism of Hodgson's style of football. I have just perused this in relation to Sam Ricketts whom Shrewsbury relieved of his duties today : "Ricketts’ Shrewsbury were built on a solid, compact backline. Ricketts’ ethos was safety first, be secure, keep a clean sheet, don’t concede more than one. It brought some results – notably in the FA Cup where there were some brilliant memories in fourth-round runs and a 15th-placed finish was, historically at least, pretty good. But fans, who barring 1,000 in September have not been in the Meadow since March, demanded a more exciting, attacking style. In doing so, the side lost its identity, forgot what it had previously been good at and became trapped neither here nor there. The squad – big, unbalanced and patched up – lost its way" Edited by Willo (25 Nov 2020 5.01pm)

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Nov 20 5.00pm

There of course has been criticism of Hodgson's style of football.

I have just perused this in relation to Sam Ricketts whom Shrewsbury relieved of his duties today :

"Ricketts’ Shrewsbury were built on a solid, compact backline. Ricketts’ ethos was safety first, be secure, keep a clean sheet, don’t concede more than one.

It brought some results – notably in the FA Cup where there were some brilliant memories in fourth-round runs and a 15th-placed finish was, historically at least, pretty good.

But fans, who barring 1,000 in September have not been in the Meadow since March, demanded a more exciting, attacking style.

In doing so, the side lost its identity, forgot what it had previously been good at and became trapped neither here nor there. The squad – big, unbalanced and patched up – lost its way"

Edited by Willo (25 Nov 2020 5.01pm)

ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 25 Nov 20 5.02pm
Originally posted by Willo There of course has been criticism of Hodgson's style of football. I have just perused this in relation to Sam Ricketts whom Shrewsbury relieved of his duties today : "Ricketts’ Shrewsbury were built on a solid, compact backline. Ricketts’ ethos was safety first, be secure, keep a clean sheet, don’t concede more than one. It brought some results – notably in the FA Cup where there were some brilliant memories in fourth-round runs and a 15th-placed finish was, historically at least, pretty good. But fans, who barring 1,000 in September have not been in the Meadow since March, demanded a more exciting, attacking style. In doing so, the side lost its identity, forgot what it had previously been good at and became trapped neither here nor there. The squad – big, unbalanced and patched up – lost its way" Edited by Willo (25 Nov 2020 5.01pm) I have no idea who this might allude to. Red and Blue Army!

ASCPFC

Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 25 Nov 20 5.02pm

Originally posted by Willo

There of course has been criticism of Hodgson's style of football.

I have just perused this in relation to Sam Ricketts whom Shrewsbury relieved of his duties today :

"Ricketts’ Shrewsbury were built on a solid, compact backline. Ricketts’ ethos was safety first, be secure, keep a clean sheet, don’t concede more than one.

It brought some results – notably in the FA Cup where there were some brilliant memories in fourth-round runs and a 15th-placed finish was, historically at least, pretty good.

But fans, who barring 1,000 in September have not been in the Meadow since March, demanded a more exciting, attacking style.

In doing so, the side lost its identity, forgot what it had previously been good at and became trapped neither here nor there. The squad – big, unbalanced and patched up – lost its way"

Edited by Willo (25 Nov 2020 5.01pm)

I have no idea who this might allude to.

Red and Blue Army!

Tickled pink Cornwall 25 Nov 20 6.56pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC I have no idea who this might allude to. It's aimed at the fans who desire our players to play like Liverpool and hate Mr Hodgson because he wont let his players do it.

Tickled pink

Cornwall 25 Nov 20 6.56pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I have no idea who this might allude to.

It's aimed at the fans who desire our players to play like Liverpool and hate Mr Hodgson because he wont let his players do it.

IMilburn Chiang Rai / Rayong 25 Nov 20 8.36pm
Or perhaps because he didn't have much choice? Out our squad of 25, 11 were starters, 6 (excludes Mitchell who is not part of the 25) were on the bench and 4 (Wilf, Luka, McCarthy and Tomkins) were unavailable for various reasons. The remaining 4 squad members are Henderson (GK), Kelly, Woods (both defenders) and Meyer who seems totally surplus to requirements since Eze's arrival. So from the squad members available, only Meyer could have provided an additional attacking option. Could have used some U23s, if any are considered ready to step up .... Originally posted by A1969Eagle He had 4 defenders on the bench because he wanted to get the 1st goal, then defend like Brighton match perhaps?

IMilburn

Chiang Rai / Rayong 25 Nov 20 8.36pm

Or perhaps because he didn't have much choice?

Out our squad of 25, 11 were starters, 6 (excludes Mitchell who is not part of the 25) were on the bench and 4 (Wilf, Luka, McCarthy and Tomkins) were unavailable for various reasons. The remaining 4 squad members are Henderson (GK), Kelly, Woods (both defenders) and Meyer who seems totally surplus to requirements since Eze's arrival.

So from the squad members available, only Meyer could have provided an additional attacking option. Could have used some U23s, if any are considered ready to step up ....

Originally posted by A1969Eagle

He had 4 defenders on the bench because he wanted to get the 1st goal, then defend like Brighton match perhaps?

Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 25 Nov 20 9.52pm
Originally posted by IMilburn Or perhaps because he didn't have much choice? Out our squad of 25, 11 were starters, 6 (excludes Mitchell who is not part of the 25) were on the bench and 4 (Wilf, Luka, McCarthy and Tomkins) were unavailable for various reasons. The remaining 4 squad members are Henderson (GK), Kelly, Woods (both defenders) and Meyer who seems totally surplus to requirements since Eze's arrival. So from the squad members available, only Meyer could have provided an additional attacking option. Could have used some U23s, if any are considered ready to step up .... Damn! I thought he might at last have a point! Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

Tim Gypsy Hill '64

Stoke sub normal 25 Nov 20 9.52pm

Originally posted by IMilburn

Or perhaps because he didn't have much choice?

So from the squad members available, only Meyer could have provided an additional attacking option. Could have used some U23s, if any are considered ready to step up ....

Damn! I thought he might at last have a point!

Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

dreamwaverider London 26 Nov 20 12.34am
I sometimes wonder how well Meyer could have done if we opted for a completely different way.

dreamwaverider

London 26 Nov 20 12.34am

I sometimes wonder how well Meyer could have done if we opted for a completely different way.

RRA77 26 Nov 20 12.54am
FIFTY-SIX pages and not ONE page mentions when Roy "came out" or was "outed" Harmony dictates we should get back to the subject matter I am very comfortable with mediocre. It is something I do to perfection

RRA77

26 Nov 20 12.54am

FIFTY-SIX pages and not ONE page mentions when Roy "came out" or was "outed"

Harmony dictates we should get back to the subject matter

I am very comfortable with mediocre. It is something I do to perfection

Vaibow vancouver/croydon 26 Nov 20 5.57am
This summer we need a change of leadership. The mentality under Roy is wrong, from parish down to the players. A new manager can get us finishing the league in the same mid table position as Roy, but in a more entertaining way, with better sound bites post game and also, Roy will be 74. This was once a quality forum....

Vaibow

vancouver/croydon 26 Nov 20 5.57am

This summer we need a change of leadership.

The mentality under Roy is wrong, from parish down to the players.

A new manager can get us finishing the league in the same mid table position as Roy, but in a more entertaining way, with better sound bites post game and also, Roy will be 74.

This was once a quality forum....

crvenaeagle 26 Nov 20 7.20am
Originally posted by RRA77 FIFTY-SIX pages and not ONE page mentions when Roy "came out" or was "outed" Harmony dictates we should get back to the subject matter

crvenaeagle

26 Nov 20 7.20am

Originally posted by RRA77

FIFTY-SIX pages and not ONE page mentions when Roy "came out" or was "outed"

Harmony dictates we should get back to the subject matter

deleted9 26 Nov 20 7.33am
Originally posted by Vaibow This summer we need a change of leadership. The mentality under Roy is wrong, from parish down to the players. A new manager can get us finishing the league in the same mid table position as Roy, but in a more entertaining way, with better sound bites post game and also, Roy will be 74. It’s all very well saying this but it would be better if you backed it up with a suggestion of who could come in that’s available and better that Roy. As a realistic Palace fan, the one things we need as a club right now is stability. Factoring in all the background changes to the Academy, stadium and general infrastructure not to mention the economic situation!

deleted9

26 Nov 20 7.33am

Originally posted by Vaibow

This summer we need a change of leadership.

The mentality under Roy is wrong, from parish down to the players.

A new manager can get us finishing the league in the same mid table position as Roy, but in a more entertaining way, with better sound bites post game and also, Roy will be 74.

It’s all very well saying this but it would be better if you backed it up with a suggestion of who could come in that’s available and better that Roy.

As a realistic Palace fan, the one things we need as a club right now is stability. Factoring in all the background changes to the Academy, stadium and general infrastructure not to mention the economic situation!

Tickled pink Cornwall 26 Nov 20 7.44am
Originally posted by alexdyoung87 It’s all very well saying this but it would be better if you backed it up with a suggestion of who could come in that’s available and better that Roy. As a realistic Palace fan, the one things we need as a club right now is stability. Factoring in all the background changes to the Academy, stadium and general infrastructure not to mention the economic situation! He sounded to me like an extremely spoilt Charlton fan who needs a good ........

Tickled pink

Cornwall 26 Nov 20 7.44am

Originally posted by alexdyoung87

It’s all very well saying this but it would be better if you backed it up with a suggestion of who could come in that’s available and better that Roy.

He sounded to me like an extremely spoilt Charlton fan who needs a good ........

NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 26 Nov 20 7.54am
Originally posted by Vaibow This summer we need a change of leadership. The mentality under Roy is wrong, from parish down to the players. A new manager can get us finishing the league in the same mid table position as Roy, but in a more entertaining way, with better sound bites post game and also, Roy will be 74. Let me get this right..you're blaming Roy for Parish's mentality ? And you want '' better '' interviews from a new manager...wow... Old, Ungifted and White

NEILLO

Shoreham-by-Sea 26 Nov 20 7.54am

Originally posted by Vaibow

This summer we need a change of leadership.

The mentality under Roy is wrong, from parish down to the players.

A new manager can get us finishing the league in the same mid table position as Roy, but in a more entertaining way, with better sound bites post game and also, Roy will be 74.

Let me get this right..you're blaming Roy for Parish's mentality ? And you want '' better '' interviews from a new manager...wow...

Old, Ungifted and White

Booted Eagle Bristol 26 Nov 20 11.06am
Originally posted by jeeagles Eddie Howe was talking about what he'd do if he was Palace manager last night and not commenting much about Burnley. Perhaps putting himself forward? Can't really blame Roy for last night. We need a midfielder who can take control of the ball and find a decent pass. Reidewald did well before being taken off. MacArthur is sadly now only a Championship player. After taking the lead, Burnley did well. We seemed to repeatedly try and carry the ball out of our own half, that gave them time to drop back into a tight formation and crowd us out every time we got near the final 3rd. Batshuayi had an awful game. Hopefully its just lacking a bit of match sharpness. Benteke might have been as we consistently failed to get the ball in the box. It seemed strange the options on the bench were Sakho and Cahill. Why would you need both? Kouyate isn't really a defender. He's not really a midfielder either. It's questionable if he's actually a footballer. Clyne seems to have a quiet but competent performance. PVA always seems to be a mix bag. His passing is woeful at times. Ultimately, it's a game we should be winning and we were below par all round, but not bad enough to take the risk of replacing him. Story of Roy's career. Heard Christian Eriksen is unhappy at Inter, lol. Seriously though, thought Monday's performance was typical Palace. Great morale boosting win against tough opponents, then a poor defeat against struggling opposition. Whilst the international break may not of helped, think largely the fluctuating inconsistency that has occurred for many seasons would of occurred in any case. Think we just don't have the players capable of putting a very good run together, come what may. Last time this happened I think was under Dougie in the Championship when FFS was on fire, causing the manager to leave for "better climes". Edited by Booted Eagle (26 Nov 2020 11.26am) “ [T]here are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ” —United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld

Booted Eagle

Bristol 26 Nov 20 11.06am

Originally posted by jeeagles

Eddie Howe was talking about what he'd do if he was Palace manager last night and not commenting much about Burnley. Perhaps putting himself forward?

Can't really blame Roy for last night. We need a midfielder who can take control of the ball and find a decent pass. Reidewald did well before being taken off. MacArthur is sadly now only a Championship player.

After taking the lead, Burnley did well. We seemed to repeatedly try and carry the ball out of our own half, that gave them time to drop back into a tight formation and crowd us out every time we got near the final 3rd.

Batshuayi had an awful game. Hopefully its just lacking a bit of match sharpness. Benteke might have been as we consistently failed to get the ball in the box.

It seemed strange the options on the bench were Sakho and Cahill. Why would you need both?

Kouyate isn't really a defender. He's not really a midfielder either. It's questionable if he's actually a footballer.

Clyne seems to have a quiet but competent performance.

PVA always seems to be a mix bag. His passing is woeful at times.

Ultimately, it's a game we should be winning and we were below par all round, but not bad enough to take the risk of replacing him. Story of Roy's career.

Heard Christian Eriksen is unhappy at Inter, lol. Seriously though, thought Monday's performance was typical Palace. Great morale boosting win against tough opponents, then a poor defeat against struggling opposition. Whilst the international break may not of helped, think largely the fluctuating inconsistency that has occurred for many seasons would of occurred in any case. Think we just don't have the players capable of putting a very good run together, come what may. Last time this happened I think was under Dougie in the Championship when FFS was on fire, causing the manager to leave for "better climes".

Edited by Booted Eagle (26 Nov 2020 11.26am)

“ [T]here are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ”
—United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld

cryrst The garden of England 26 Nov 20 11.24am
Originally posted by Booted Eagle Heard Christian Eriksen is unhappy at Inter, lol. I reckon there are worse!

cryrst

The garden of England 26 Nov 20 11.24am

Originally posted by Booted Eagle

Heard Christian Eriksen is unhappy at Inter, lol.

I reckon there are worse!

Vaibow vancouver/croydon 27 Nov 20 5.10am
Originally posted by Tickled pink He sounded to me like an extremely spoilt Charlton fan who needs a good ........ ready when you are This was once a quality forum....

Vaibow

vancouver/croydon 27 Nov 20 5.10am

Originally posted by Tickled pink

He sounded to me like an extremely spoilt Charlton fan who needs a good ........

ready when you are

This was once a quality forum....

deleted9 27 Nov 20 6.05am
Originally posted by Vaibow ready when you are Ready for what?! Surely you’re not straying off topic?

deleted9

27 Nov 20 6.05am

Originally posted by Vaibow

ready when you are

Ready for what?! Surely you’re not straying off topic?

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Nov 20 8.08am
Clearly if we are defeated tonight, which of course is a realistic possibility, the cries of "Roy Out" will reach a crescendo and he will be on the end of unrelenting invective.

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Nov 20 8.08am

Clearly if we are defeated tonight, which of course is a realistic possibility, the cries of "Roy Out" will reach a crescendo and he will be on the end of unrelenting invective.

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