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Joe Bloggs Flag Nr Norwich 08 May 23 4.22pm

" one flew over the cuckoos nest"

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 08 May 23 4.23pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I have perfectly good memory of the events, as I was involved. You don't. You are just spinning some long-forgotten comments to satisfy this strange desire you have to continuously post vitriol, rather than stay on subject. It's seriously weird. As you seem so interested here is the truth.

The tenant who is an ex-prisoner has changed his own life. I saw him yesterday, and have exchanged texts today. If ever there was an example of how the prison system can help reform people, he is it. He is a lovely chap. His appearance is fearful, but he has a heart of gold. I played a tiny role in accepting him when others didn't. He now works and is just moving from one of my units to a bigger one. You can take the p*ss as much as you like, but I am satisfied with what I have done.

I haven't had thousands of employees! I have had a few dozen and always tried to be a responsible and compassionate employer, primarily because my experience taught me that people generally perform better as a consequence. Of course, some took advantage and then I could be very straightforward. I once instantly dismissed a nurse I caught sleeping on duty. The trouble was she originated from Zimbabwe and started a tribunal action, claiming racial discrimination, which she later dropped, assumedly on advice.

I don't think I would have claimed I closed a section of a Catholic Newspaper on my own! It did close its comments section when the moderation requirements became too much for it to cope with. It was populated by several extremely conservative thinkers who routinely posted hard-line intransigence that brooked no argument. I, along with a couple of others, pointed out their weaknesses, much as I do here. So they just closed it. I must have contributed to that.

What any of that has to do with Trump is beyond me though!

Wisbech. I think the reason why you antagonize people is that you seem to take your self rather too seriously.
Of course, you will be unaware of this or in denial because that goes with the territory.

It also doesn't help when you label other opinions as extremist or some other handy derogatory designation, and then indulge in self righteous indignation when your holier than thou position is questioned.

You just aren't important. I know it's a shock.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 08 May 23 4.29pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Wisbech. I think the reason why you antagonize people is that you seem to take your self rather too seriously.
Of course, you will be unaware of this or in denial because that goes with the territory.

It also doesn't help when you label other opinions as extremist or some other handy derogatory designation, and then indulge in self righteous indignation when your holier than thou position is questioned.

You just aren't important. I know it's a shock.

Hitler used to take himself rather too seriously.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 08 May 23 4.33pm

Originally posted by georgenorman

Hitler used to take himself rather too seriously.

You vill be put on ze list.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 08 May 23 5.07pm

Originally posted by georgenorman

Hitler used to take himself rather too seriously.

Yep, he definitely needed a tickle stick.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 08 May 23 5.09pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You vill be put on ze list.

'Don't tell him your name Spike!'.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 08 May 23 6.11pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Wisbech. I think the reason why you antagonize people is that you seem to take your self rather too seriously.
Of course, you will be unaware of this or in denial because that goes with the territory.

It also doesn't help when you label other opinions as extremist or some other handy derogatory designation, and then indulge in self righteous indignation when your holier than thou position is questioned.

You just aren't important. I know it's a shock.

If you actually knew me you would know that isn’t true! I am quite light-hearted although also passionate and tenacious. The reason I come over that way on here is because of the population who inhabit this place. They get antagonised (we are in the UK) by anyone who fails to fall in line with their rhetoric.

The reason opinions are derided is because to most of us in the real world they are derisory. I have no problem at all with my positions being questioned. Indeed I welcome it, as the more opportunities I have to discuss these things with those with opposing views the better my own are developed. What I object to are not opinions about politics but the regular insults used to try to divert discussions from them.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 08 May 23 6.13pm

Originally posted by georgenorman

Hitler used to take himself rather too seriously.

I think not.

I think we were the ones who failed to take him too seriously.

Something we need to ensure we remember.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 08 May 23 7.28pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

If you actually knew me you would know that isn’t true! I am quite light-hearted although also passionate and tenacious. The reason I come over that way on here is because of the population who inhabit this place. They get antagonised (we are in the UK) by anyone who fails to fall in line with their rhetoric.

The reason opinions are derided is because to most of us in the real world they are derisory. I have no problem at all with my positions being questioned. Indeed I welcome it, as the more opportunities I have to discuss these things with those with opposing views the better my own are developed. What I object to are not opinions about politics but the regular insults used to try to divert discussions from them.

Hitler considered himself quite light-hearted, passionate and tenacious.

He was also a member of a Bayern Munich fan forum under the name of Braunau Eagle.

Edited by georgenorman (08 May 2023 7.32pm)

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 08 May 23 8.51pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

If you actually knew me you would know that isn’t true! I am quite light-hearted although also passionate and tenacious. The reason I come over that way on here is because of the population who inhabit this place. They get antagonised (we are in the UK) by anyone who fails to fall in line with their rhetoric.

The reason opinions are derided is because to most of us in the real world they are derisory. I have no problem at all with my positions being questioned. Indeed I welcome it, as the more opportunities I have to discuss these things with those with opposing views the better my own are developed. What I object to are not opinions about politics but the regular insults used to try to divert discussions from them.

I just knew you would disagree.

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 08 May 23 9.05pm

Originally posted by georgenorman

Hitler considered himself quite light-hearted, passionate and tenacious.

He was also a member of a Bayern Munich fan forum under the name of Braunau Eagle.

Edited by georgenorman (08 May 2023 7.32pm)

Really? Evidence, please. He is a long time dead but I am sure you can find some quotes to support this assertion. I thought he considered himself omnipotent.

65 miles was a long way to travel back then. I suspect he would have been more likely to support FC Braunau. I thought Bayern are known as "The Reds" and not the Eagles anyway.

Maybe I misunderstood and you were trying to be funny? Easy mistake to make.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 08 May 23 9.12pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I just knew you would disagree.

I knew you would know.

The answer lies in your own hands. Either start posting some common sense that I can agree with or stop posting critical comments about my own opinions. Continue as you are and so will I.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 08 May 23 10.09pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Really? Evidence, please. He is a long time dead but I am sure you can find some quotes to support this assertion. I thought he considered himself omnipotent.

65 miles was a long way to travel back then. I suspect he would have been more likely to support FC Braunau. I thought Bayern are known as "The Reds" and not the Eagles anyway.

Maybe I misunderstood and you were trying to be funny? Easy mistake to make.

Not light-hearted? Evidence? We have film footage!

[Link]

 

footythoughts Flag Beckenham 09 May 23 8.25pm

A pussy has been grabbed.

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 09 May 23 8.56pm

Originally posted by footythoughts

A pussy has been grabbed.

Not according to Trump's team.

It's all part of a "Democratic witch-hunt"!

Sound familiar? It seems everything in life that isn't approved by Trump is part of a "Democratic witch-hunt". In this case, the due process of the law seems to be. Amazing!

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 09 May 23 9.04pm

A New York jury find Trump guilty based on hearsay and seemingly 'believe all woman'.

Most people who aren't biased against Trump, even independents, view this as a case created by political motives. Whether Trump actually did make a move on this woman or not can't really be known....it wouldn't surprise me, but that's not the same thing.

The right know that the Democrats weaponized the legal system in their states and are busy ensuring the same in theirs.

Its decline apes the west in general.

We will see whether this verdict stands the appeal or how it affects Trump's polls.....It may even increase his numbers.

Edited by Stirlingsays (09 May 2023 9.07pm)

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 09 May 23 9.20pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

A New York jury find Trump guilty based on hearsay and seemingly 'believe all woman'.

Most people who aren't biased against Trump, even independents, view this as a case created by political motives. Whether Trump actually did make a move on this woman or not can't really be known....it wouldn't surprise me, but that's not the same thing.

The right know that the Democrats weaponized the legal system in their states and are busy ensuring the same in theirs.

Its decline apes the west in general.

We will see whether this verdict stands the appeal or how it affects Trump's polls.....It may even increase his numbers.

Edited by Stirlingsays (09 May 2023 9.07pm)

A jury selected for, and guided to be, objective disagreed. They, of course, actually saw and heard all the evidence, and not just the salacious reports of the evidence. Proved beyond a reasonable doubt is the test and it's the only test.

No one can "weaponise" a legal system. They can take advantage of someone's guilt but the person has to be guilty first.

I am quite sure that the Republicans would not pause for a moment if they could mount cases against Clinton or Biden that would stick. The Democrats didn't mount this case. They may not even benefit from it.

 


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sydtheeagle Flag England 09 May 23 9.23pm

For those interested, there's a very good article in the right-wing National Review (staunch republican outlet) summarising the situation:

[Link]

The thrust is basically that Trump is unelectable but it plays to Democrat interests to drum up his candidacy because of that, hence the endless headlines that "Trump is winning" in the liberal press. They'd like nothing better than for Trump to get the Republican nomination because he's the one candidate that even Biden is guaranteed to beat. Large swathes of Republicans are too cowed to stand up to Trump's gang in public, but there's absolutely no way they will vote for him at the ballot box.

Anyway, well worth a read (and bear in mind the source is a longstanding right-wing journal).

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 09 May 23 9.39pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

A jury selected for, and guided to be, objective disagreed. They, of course, actually saw and heard all the evidence, and not just the salacious reports of the evidence. Proved beyond a reasonable doubt is the test and it's the only test.

No one can "weaponise" a legal system. They can take advantage of someone's guilt but the person has to be guilty first.

I am quite sure that the Republicans would not pause for a moment if they could mount cases against Clinton or Biden that would stick. The Democrats didn't mount this case. They may not even benefit from it.

Hitler did.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 09 May 23 10.39pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

A jury selected for, and guided to be, objective disagreed. They, of course, actually saw and heard all the evidence, and not just the salacious reports of the evidence. Proved beyond a reasonable doubt is the test and it's the only test.

No one can "weaponise" a legal system. They can take advantage of someone's guilt but the person has to be guilty first.

I am quite sure that the Republicans would not pause for a moment if they could mount cases against Clinton or Biden that would stick. The Democrats didn't mount this case. They may not even benefit from it.

The OJ Simpson jury were also directed to be.....it's well known that if that trial hadn't been moved 'downstate' then that murderer would have gone down.

If you want to come on here and pretend that a New York jury are apolitical then cool....You might as well argue for flying pink elephants as well but I expect no different from you.

 


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