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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 11 Mar 17 9.20pm

Originally posted by legaleagle

In a nutshell....

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"In the coming days, perhaps as soon as Wednesday, Brexit will turn from abstract to concrete....

yet those in charge of this fateful, epochal process – and especially those who most loudly demanded it happen – seem utterly unprepared for it....

It’s as if the crew of the Titanic eyed the iceberg ahead and promptly decided to have a big squabble over whether to serve white or red....

That failing is most obvious among the Brexiteers, characterised by a refusal to own their victory and take responsibility for it. So when a voice of experience or authority dares point out the possible dangers ahead, they are either sacked, as was the fate of Michael Heseltine, attacked personally, like John Major, or else branded an “enemy of the people” who refuses to bow to the “popular will”....

Those with concerns are accused of “talking down the country” or lacking sufficient faith – as if, should Brexit make us poorer, the fault will belong to those who didn’t screw their eyes tight enough and believe. Credit to Jonn Elledge for calling this what it is: the Tinkerbell delusion....

This surely has to end with the triggering of article 50. From this moment on, the focus must be intensely practical. No more baggy rhetoric about sovereignty and “taking back control”. From now on, those who got us into this situation have to show they can get us out intact by March 2019...

That will require a major shift among the Brexiteer ministers and in Downing Street. Those close to the pre-negotiations between Britain and the remaining 27 EU states report an unwarranted hubris on the UK side that augurs ill....

Such arrogance is likely to be exposed soon...

"remainers will need to handle these next two years carefully, readying themselves for the day when the deal is done, and ensuring they have already placed two key questions in the front of the public mind: is this deal better than the set-up we had on 22 June 2016? And if it isn’t, why are we doing it?"

You Remainers do make I larf.

 


We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

legaleagle Flag 11 Mar 17 9.46pm

Sad thing is,I suspect you Brexiteers will be making us cry in 2 years' time

 

matt_himself Flag Matataland 11 Mar 17 10.14pm

Originally posted by legaleagle

Sad thing is,I suspect you Brexiteers will be making us cry in 2 years' time

Thanks for the scientific and financial analysis of why.

No?

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 12 Mar 17 10.32am

Originally posted by legaleagle

Sad thing is,I suspect you Brexiteers will be making us cry in 2 years' time

When do you think the plague of locusts will start?

 


We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

matt_himself Flag Matataland 12 Mar 17 10.53am

Originally posted by hedgehog50

When do you think the plague of locusts will start?

It should have started on June 24 last year.

The Bremoaners are desperate for something bad to happen, so they can be smuger than usual.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

legaleagle Flag 12 Mar 17 11.47am

Bide your time,you are too impatient...Rome wasn't built in a day and the fiasco that is Brexit won't become apparent in a day either!

Only another 25 months or so to wait

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 12 Mar 17 11.54am

Originally posted by legaleagle

Sad thing is,I suspect you Brexiteers will be making us cry in 2 years' time

I won't be crying. But I know you will still be moaning.

 

hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 12 Mar 17 11.57am

Originally posted by legaleagle

Bide your time,you are too impatient...Rome wasn't built in a day and the fiasco that is Brexit won't become apparent in a day either!

Only another 25 months or so to wait

You are like a Jehovah's Witness telling us that we are living in the 'final days'.

 


We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 12 Mar 17 1.00pm

I see this EU member nation is getting on well with prospective new member - Ode to Joy?

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We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

Kermit8 Flag Hevon 12 Mar 17 1.06pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

I see this EU member nation is getting on well with prospective new member - Ode to Joy?

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Turkey is about as prospective a new member as Surinam these days as you well know you naughty boy.

Still not one shot fired in 65 years between EEC/EU countries. Don't let it rankle.

 


Big chest and massive boobs

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legaleagle Flag 12 Mar 17 1.19pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I won't be crying. But I know you will still be moaning.

No,agreed. I doubt you "true believers" will be crying...just the majority of us in the UK.

 

matt_himself Flag Matataland 12 Mar 17 1.23pm

Originally posted by Kermit8


Turkey is about as prospective a new member as Surinam these days as you well know you naughty boy.

Still not one shot fired in 65 years between EEC/EU countries. Don't let it rankle.

But as we have established Michael, that is because of NATO.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 12 Mar 17 1.37pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

It should have started on June 24 last year.

The Bremoaners are desperate for something bad to happen, so they can be smuger than usual.

....is that possible?

 


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legaleagle Flag 12 Mar 17 3.09pm

Smuger?

Very much indeed a case of pot,kettle,black, my friends...

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 12 Mar 17 3.40pm

Originally posted by legaleagle

No,agreed. I doubt you "true believers" will be crying...just the majority of us in the UK.

Only if they like being negative.

I'd have thought you would be the last person to blame everything on one group.
Brexit will be a useful scapegoat for some.

 

legaleagle Flag 12 Mar 17 4.17pm

Nah,on some occasions it can be legit to blame a group...I blame ultra nationalists for most of the mass killings that have occurred in Central/Southern Europe in recent times...Serbia,Croatia,Bosnia...Once they're all in the EU should make it unthinkable to reoccur again...

As for being negative,I thought you approved of that,from your plainly heartfelt repeated comments about immigrants


We are on a one way ticket to something worse than we had before with Brexit...simples...always the way with "scapegoat" ideologies..and no amount of silly "lefty bashing" and neo-fascistic tosh about "enemies of the people"will hide the fact that IMHO the mass of the populace will realise that sad reality in the next 2-3 years...


If you differ? Well,everyone is entitled their opinion,other than in the kinds of places (and the kinds of people who approve of it) where Judges are described as "enemies of the people" for upholding the rule of law in keeping with centuries old traditions...

Edited by legaleagle (12 Mar 2017 4.20pm)

 

hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 12 Mar 17 4.31pm

Originally posted by legaleagle

Nah,on some occasions it can be legit to blame a group...I blame ultra nationalists for most of the mass killings that have occurred in Central/Southern Europe in recent times...Serbia,Croatia,Bosnia...Once they're all in the EU should make it unthinkable to reoccur again...

As for being negative,I thought you approved of that,from your plainly heartfelt repeated comments about immigrants


We are on a one way ticket to something worse than we had before with Brexit...simples...always the way with "scapegoat" ideologies..and no amount of silly "lefty bashing" and neo-fascistic tosh about "enemies of the people"will hide the fact that IMHO the mass of the populace will realise that sad reality in the next 2-3 years...


If you differ? Well,everyone is entitled their opinion,other than in the kinds of places (and the kinds of people who approve of it) where Judges are described as "enemies of the people" for upholding the rule of law in keeping with centuries old traditions...

Edited by legaleagle (12 Mar 2017 4.20pm)

Like communism you mean?

 


We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

legaleagle Flag 12 Mar 17 4.56pm

Very much like the outlook of some of your own ideological "kith and kin",I mean...and,unlike that "kith and kin",I abhor scapegoating wherever it appears,including Stalin's Soviet Union and Daily Mail 2016 Inger la la land

Edited by legaleagle (12 Mar 2017 4.59pm)

 

hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 12 Mar 17 5.25pm

Originally posted by legaleagle

Very much like the outlook of some of your own ideological "kith and kin",I mean...and,unlike that "kith and kin",I abhor scapegoating wherever it appears,including Stalin's Soviet Union and Daily Mail 2016 Inger la la land

Edited by legaleagle (12 Mar 2017 4.59pm)

What about the non-Stalin USSR - do you abhor that too? What about all the other utterly oppressive and failed communist states. Why do you associate Brexit supporters with fascism - isn't that somewhat silly and simplistic for someone of your massive 'intellect'?

Edited by hedgehog50 (12 Mar 2017 5.28pm)

 


We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 12 Mar 17 5.33pm

Originally posted by legaleagle

Nah,on some occasions it can be legit to blame a group...I blame ultra nationalists for most of the mass killings that have occurred in Central/Southern Europe in recent times...Serbia,Croatia,Bosnia...Once they're all in the EU should make it unthinkable to reoccur again...

As for being negative,I thought you approved of that,from your plainly heartfelt repeated comments about immigrants


We are on a one way ticket to something worse than we had before with Brexit...simples...always the way with "scapegoat" ideologies..and no amount of silly "lefty bashing" and neo-fascistic tosh about "enemies of the people"will hide the fact that IMHO the mass of the populace will realise that sad reality in the next 2-3 years...


If you differ? Well,everyone is entitled their opinion,other than in the kinds of places (and the kinds of people who approve of it) where Judges are described as "enemies of the people" for upholding the rule of law in keeping with centuries old traditions...

Edited by legaleagle (12 Mar 2017 4.20pm)

You forgot the disgraceful displacement of Palestinians by Israeli settlers.

You are simply whining. You have no idea what the outcome of Brexit will be beyond the fact that we will not be a remote region of the German/French, corporate lapdog super state.

 

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