Which only serves to demonstrate how out of touch with reality many of them must be!

I don't think the Tories will win the next election but they have put themselves in a better position by putting realism and pragmatism above dogma and idealism. I think there will be a hung Parliament. What happens next is another question but having a reasonably strong Tory element is important.

They will be rewarded, albeit slightly, by the country as a whole for that. The kind of "conservatives" that are referenced above will still probably vote for them because right now they have nowhere else to go. I would welcome them having a new place. We could then see just how strongly supported this kind of approach really is.

Who will vote for Sunak and Hunt? I will, as will many millions of others. Why? Because I am a traditional middle of the road voter who has no time for extremism. I see no hope, and little talent in Labour. Unless they dump the Unions and the left, they are a waste of time and that won't happen. So the only current Party who are capable of delivering what I believe in are the Tories, but only when they are behaving with common sense and compassion. Which is more on show now, than in the last few years.

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Midland is right!

Your willingness to blame the "markets" for this is as nonsensical as blaming the WEF for globalism.

Both are reactions to events, not the causes of them.

The "markets" are not an organic mass which thinks and directs.

That they now react better is not because Sunak is their "man". It's because our man is adopting a more sensible approach which has produced stability and predictability.

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Your posts do provide some unintentional humour, which is something I suppose.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

What is truly amusing is your conversion to Truss "economics", when it was so clearly a total disaster.

When you stand on the edge of a cliff looking down at a boiling sea full of sharks, and no rescue boats in sight, it's generally better to retreat than join the ranks of the lemmings.

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You continually make assertions and assumptions about others and yet are probably the person who most complains about misrepresentation.

Truss was an awful pick from a poor option list. However I'll state again, what she did caused a tiny fraction of the damage that this country has been lumbered with.

All decisions that you supported of course.

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

You, and all those who are also undergoing this conversion, are, of course, completely missing the point.

The damage this country is suffering is not because of Sunak and Hunt. It has been mitigated by them. What we witnessed during Truss's, thankfully brief, time in No 10, was only the tip of the iceberg that would have hit us, had she remained in office.

The damage was already in the pipeline. It's now been held back, spread a little wider and delivered a little slower. The ship has taken a sensible new course to avoid terminal damage.

Truss was mimicking Captain Smith with her belief that icebergs can be avoided. She was too busy trying to look like Thatcher to see what was obvious.

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