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Palacesince64 Flag Edinburgh 15 Apr 21 9.27am

A tale of 2 mouths to be honest. Jordan and Sutton both enjoy mouthing off. The only doors that Jordan has a pop at Celtic/Scottish football while Sutton has a pop at Palace/ lack of ambition.

I think Howe will go to Celtic if they agree to him taking his own staff. Whoever goes there next season will get publicity because Gerrard is now top dog and Celtic are in all sorts of trouble after Lennon wrecked Rodger’s squad. Rangers aren’t that good. They won by bringing in young players Gerrard knew from coaching at Liverpool who weren’t going to go straight into their first team. Rodgers did something similar when Celtic linked up with Citee. A decent coach could turn things round and win the league next season.

The Palace job is a risky option for someone like Howe. He is unlikely to finish higher than Hodgson without spending cash and that ain’t going to happen. Success would be bringing youngsters in to replace the older/ out of contract players while maintaining Premier League status. That might attract someone who’s never managed in the PL but won’t get the likes of Howe I to the big time. The risk of failure and relegation is high and Howe doesn’t need another trip to the Championship.

We need a young coach to bring on the youngsters, preferably one with links to a bigger team to bring in some of their kids. That has to be Lampard.

 

Aray Flag South London 15 Apr 21 11.38am

Originally posted by Palacesince64

A tale of 2 mouths to be honest. Jordan and Sutton both enjoy mouthing off. The only doors that Jordan has a pop at Celtic/Scottish football while Sutton has a pop at Palace/ lack of ambition.

I think Howe will go to Celtic if they agree to him taking his own staff. Whoever goes there next season will get publicity because Gerrard is now top dog and Celtic are in all sorts of trouble after Lennon wrecked Rodger’s squad. Rangers aren’t that good. They won by bringing in young players Gerrard knew from coaching at Liverpool who weren’t going to go straight into their first team. Rodgers did something similar when Celtic linked up with Citee. A decent coach could turn things round and win the league next season.

The Palace job is a risky option for someone like Howe. He is unlikely to finish higher than Hodgson without spending cash and that ain’t going to happen. Success would be bringing youngsters in to replace the older/ out of contract players while maintaining Premier League status. That might attract someone who’s never managed in the PL but won’t get the likes of Howe I to the big time. The risk of failure and relegation is high and Howe doesn’t need another trip to the Championship.

We need a young coach to bring on the youngsters, preferably one with links to a bigger team to bring in some of their kids. That has to be Lampard.

With respect, does it? Look I know he is a big name but I am not convinced he's that great a coach. He's not got the experience, if you ask me. There are other progressive young coaches (such as Valerien Ismael) who have greater track record and momentum. Also, to be Frank, are more likely to stick around with a solid midtable club than Lambard.

 

pstrutt Flag Busselton, WA 15 Apr 21 11.40am

It is Dyche or Hodgson for me. We either go all out and back Dyche, securing him now when we need to overhaul the team, or we continue to have these conversations for another 12 months with Roy at the helm. Which I feel would be detrimental.

There is a huge risk factor when it comes to changing and despite pundits falling over themselves to whip up a frenzy in the transfer market (the usual Kane to Citeh / Haaland to Prem etc / plus relegated manager merry-go-round), I don't see much transfer action happening in this window. It worries me that we will stay with Roy because of the cost of securing a new manager with a loss of 54M (?). So I'd like Dyche.

Hodgson - Better Prem record than those we're linked to
Dyche - Slightly better record than Howe (IMHO)
Howe - Not going to take us forward (so will Dyche for that matter?)
Lampard - Too risky
Gerard - too risky - why should we be a testing ground for another clubs future heros
Potter - only if he brings his current midfield with him
Cooper - too risky
Ismail - too risky - don't get sentimental for 9 months / and no-one is going to want him as a number 2 if he is simply being groomed to take over in a couple of years.*
Paulo Fonseca - I genuinely can't see this as I think it would take money to convince him.

So I'd like Dyche now before he sees how well we balls up the negotiation of new transfers with our ageing squad or pish RH around further.

*Hodgson grooming Ismail? Maybe I'd take that, but still to risky.


Edited by pstrutt (15 Apr 2021 11.42am)

 


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Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 15 Apr 21 1.54pm

All this speculation, fascinating as it may be, pre-supposes that we are actually looking for a new manager. Are we?

I’d be happy if Hodgson was offered another year, even if it was only to ensure Howe didn’t get the gig which, in my opinion, would be a bad idea.

 


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silvertop Flag Portishead 15 Apr 21 2.40pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


According to this report Fonseca is leaving Roma at the end of the season.


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Running before we can crawl? This guys benefits lie in Europe. He would need to get us 6 places higher something other teams invest £100s millions to achieve with varying degrees of success. Ancelotti is about as good a coach as it is possible to be but look where Everton are in the league. And we lack their name network and resources.

If Parrish's long term plans bear fruit someone like this is a future option. However dyche would be a better option now to get us there.

 

croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 15 Apr 21 3.37pm

Wouldn"t suprise me if fat Sam took over after Roy, when ever Roy decides to go, maybe after next season. But if Roy walks this season, fat Sam might walk from wba, and there you have it, depending how well he got on with Steve.

 

Jefroc Flag Crete 15 Apr 21 3.40pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

All this speculation, fascinating as it may be, pre-supposes that we are actually looking for a new manager. Are we?

I’d be happy if Hodgson was offered another year, even if it was only to ensure Howe didn’t get the gig which, in my opinion, would be a bad idea.

I might take a risk on certain managers but not Howe. He has great PR and a boyish grin but I am far from convinced he is an EPL manager!

That all said this summer is crucial for Palace. With all those players and thenmanager out of contract it is an ideal time for a new broom - but a broom that has guile and a serious and sensible plan. And all this with a business with highly unprecedented and unpredictable financial issues. Over to you Steve!!!!

 


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Midlands Eagle Flag 15 Apr 21 4.00pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

All this speculation, fascinating as it may be, pre-supposes that we are actually looking for a new manager. Are we?

Yes we are coz I read it in the media

 

eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 15 Apr 21 5.25pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Yes we are coz I read it in the media

Yeah, but the media read it here first.

 


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AERO Flag 16 Apr 21 8.07pm

We have been linked with at least 5 managers for the apparent successor to Roy .But strange none of them have publically stated that there not interested in the job ,or there has been no contact ? Strange or is Roy staying and they have not been contacted at all ?

 

Eagle Black. Flag South Croydon 16 Apr 21 9.54pm

Originally posted by AERO

We have been linked with at least 5 managers for the apparent successor to Roy .But strange none of them have publically stated that there not interested in the job ,or there has been no contact ? Strange or is Roy staying and they have not been contacted at all ?

I hope Roy announces he's leaving,don't want another season of him at the helm.

 

deleted9 Flag 16 Apr 21 10.41pm

If Roy is to go, we have to aim big. This is our opportunity to make a statement like Leeds did by bringing in Bielsa.

I’m keen on Benítez who is free and stated his hope to return to the Premier League. Aside from him, why not Joachim Low or Frank Rijkaard or Scolari? These are big names in world football and would really put us on the radar for investors, sponsors and new signings.

I can’t help but feel that we are ‘settling’ for the likes of Dyche or Howe just because. It’s not not particularly inspiring and for me would demonstrate a lack of ambition.

 

AERO Flag 17 Apr 21 7.54am

Understand and agree what your saying ,but look what happened when we done that with Frank Du Boar ?

 

Midlands Eagle Flag 17 Apr 21 8.01am

Originally posted by AERO

Understand and agree what your saying ,but look what happened when we done that with Frank Du Boar ?

Our most successful period in the Premier League has come under a 73 year old ex England manager so should we confine our search to ex England pensioner managers?

 

braunstoneagle Flag the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 17 Apr 21 8.38am

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

All this speculation, fascinating as it may be, pre-supposes that we are actually looking for a new manager. Are we?

I’d be happy if Hodgson was offered another year, even if it was only to ensure Howe didn’t get the gig which, in my opinion, would be a bad idea.

with you on this one cucking...with ferguson, mitchell, eze, mateta developing we could have an more youthful exciting side.

if as expected we only have magic beans & buttons to spend in the summer roy gets my vote.

history tells us new managers need backing financially, which we cant afford to do.

 


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AERO Flag 17 Apr 21 8.40am

So Howard Wilkinson it is then ?

 

dreamwaverider Flag London 17 Apr 21 8.45am

Originally posted by alexdyoung87

If Roy is to go, we have to aim big. This is our opportunity to make a statement like Leeds did by bringing in Bielsa.

I’m keen on Benítez who is free and stated his hope to return to the Premier League. Aside from him, why not Joachim Low or Frank Rijkaard or Scolari? These are big names in world football and would really put us on the radar for investors, sponsors and new signings.

I can’t help but feel that we are ‘settling’ for the likes of Dyche or Howe just because. It’s not not particularly inspiring and for me would demonstrate a lack of ambition.

good post. But could Parish cope?

 

doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 17 Apr 21 10.40am

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

good post. But could Parish cope?


More to the point could he afford any of them, never mind the transfer kitty they'd expect from a PL club?

 

Mwncisee Flag Middlesbrough 17 Apr 21 12.44pm

Originally posted by alexdyoung87

If Roy is to go, we have to aim big. This is our opportunity to make a statement like Leeds did by bringing in Bielsa.

I’m keen on Benítez who is free and stated his hope to return to the Premier League. Aside from him, why not Joachim Low or Frank Rijkaard or Scolari? These are big names in world football and would really put us on the radar for investors, sponsors and new signings.

I can’t help but feel that we are ‘settling’ for the likes of Dyche or Howe just because. It’s not not particularly inspiring and for me would demonstrate a lack of ambition.

Benitez has put it out there that he wants to return to the Premier but on the condition that the club he goes to has a plan to compete at the top. that's not us. So easy to say let's just get X, Y or Z but not based in any reality.

 

Gribbo Flag Bromley 17 Apr 21 2.17pm

...or Frank De Boer for example. That went well.

 

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