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 Willo  South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Mar 21 9.02pm |
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Originally posted by PatrickA
I was anticipating this response and feel it rather proves my point I believe I have made some valid points but we see matters differently and of course others might also share your view.
Edited by Willo (09 Mar 2021 9.16pm)
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CT GUY-BIGBALD EAGLE  bloomfield 09 Mar 21 9.34pm |
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Originally posted by EddieMac
And don’t forget the mighty Graham Potter and 1 point behind the genius that is Bielsa. From a comparative analysis view, the point thats being raised is can those other managers get more out of OUR squad than Roy? What they are getting out of their squads compared to what Roy is getting out of our squad is not a valid comparison
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| Midlands Eagle 10 Mar 21 7.22am |
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Originally posted by Uphill
Which younger players are you referring to as those that know a great deal more about our development and age related squads say that there is no-one ready for the first team. Those out on loan who people here are crying out to be promoted to the first team are hardly tearing up trees in their lower league clubs
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| Mstrobez 10 Mar 21 8.43am |
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Originally posted by Uphill
Speculation is rife .. But the basic fact is: We are stuck in a rut with Hodgson playing only one (defensive) way using his favourite players (who he once could rely on but now cannot) That is why so many have contributed to this thread. Well, Roy was hired 3 & a half years ago & he's the only manager in the 8 years since we were promoted who has brought through a single academy prospect into Premier League football. 3 players he's given debuts to, to be precise & 2 to great success. So it's the opposite of a basic fact really. I take the point that he's been largely reluctant to, but I'd be interested to see how many managers in the Premier League have brought through more academy prospects in that period of time. Especially managers at clubs outside the top 6.
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| Mstrobez 10 Mar 21 8.46am |
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Originally posted by CT GUY-BIGBALD EAGLE
From a comparative analysis view, the point thats being raised is can those other managers get more out of OUR squad than Roy? What they are getting out of their squads compared to what Roy is getting out of our squad is not a valid comparison It's not a valid comparison because, without Zaha, they both have younger & better squads than us - easily. And Wilf has been out for the past several games.
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COCO  aberdeen 10 Mar 21 10.42am |
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In Roy we trust! Saved us from relegation a few years ago and an excellent human and manager. Get a life Roy haters.
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| gebena 10 Mar 21 11.08am |
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I think the board have a massive decision to make, as whatever happens the squad needs a massive makeover, and if Roy sees this out it they will be younger but the same type of players so will be dreadful still to watch, but we will probably stay in the Premier League, the other option is to bring a new manager in and get his type players and make a clean sweep of it but has risks remember De Boer but i hope they keep Roy on as a consultant or in some capacity anyway.
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| A1969Eagle Redhill 10 Mar 21 11.39am |
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AWB forced to play him when all right back options were out injured. Mitchell forced to play him when all left back options were out injured. Over to you Originally posted by Mstrobez
Well, Roy was hired 3 & a half years ago & he's the only manager in the 8 years since we were promoted who has brought through a single academy prospect into Premier League football. 3 players he's given debuts to, to be precise & 2 to great success. So it's the opposite of a basic fact really. I take the point that he's been largely reluctant to, but I'd be interested to see how many managers in the Premier League have brought through more academy prospects in that period of time. Especially managers at clubs outside the top 6.
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| Rachid Rachid Rachid 10 Mar 21 11.52am |
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Originally posted by A1969Eagle
AWB forced to play him when all right back options were out injured. Mitchell forced to play him when all left back options were out injured. Over to you How lots of young players get their chance. If they were not considered good enough then a senior player would be played out of position. Martin Kelly and Tomkins have both played full back.
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| Midlands Eagle 10 Mar 21 12.59pm |
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Originally posted by COCO
In Roy we trust! Saved us from relegation a few years ago and an excellent human and manager. Get a life Roy haters. A quality contribution to this debate
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| nead1 10 Mar 21 1.04pm |
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Acknowledged - however, actually has more than an element of truth about it!
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| Putitout Oxford 10 Mar 21 1.37pm |
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Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid
How lots of young players get their chance. If they were not considered good enough then a senior player would be played out of position. Martin Kelly and Tomkins have both played full back.
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