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legaleagle 09 Apr 17 8.22pm
No one is talking about giving it up.Rather, that the EU and Spain are not being completely unreasonable (now we have told it to F Off), to want a say about any deal struck regarding the "dodgy" tax haven located at one end of Spain,undermining,for example,its tax revenue.As the linked article said,imagine if it was the other way round and the tax haven was located at Dover...

legaleagle

09 Apr 17 8.22pm

No one is talking about giving it up.Rather, that the EU and Spain are not being completely unreasonable (now we have told it to F Off), to want a say about any deal struck regarding the "dodgy" tax haven located at one end of Spain,undermining,for example,its tax revenue.As the linked article said,imagine if it was the other way round and the tax haven was located at Dover...

Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 09 Apr 17 8.29pm
Originally posted by legaleagle No one is talking about giving it up.Rather, that the EU and Spain are not being completely unreasonable (now we have told it to F Off), to want a say about any deal struck regarding the "dodgy" tax haven located at one end of Spain,undermining,for example,its tax revenue.As the linked article said,imagine if it was the other way round and the tax haven was located at Dover... Tax havens make the world go round. As a lawyer, you of all people should understand that. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

Cucking Funt

Clapham on the Back 09 Apr 17 8.29pm

Originally posted by legaleagle

Tax havens make the world go round. As a lawyer, you of all people should understand that.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

matt_himself Matataland 09 Apr 17 8.38pm
Originally posted by legaleagle No one is talking about giving it up.Rather, that the EU and Spain are not being completely unreasonable (now we have told it to F Off), to want a say about any deal struck regarding the "dodgy" tax haven located at one end of Spain,undermining,for example,its tax revenue.As the linked article said,imagine if it was the other way round and the tax haven was located at Dover... Maybe we should bring the status of similar tax havens, in Malta, Ireland and Luxembourg, in Brexit talks. Given the moral high ground the EU is seeking to impose on Britain with regards to Gibraltar, one would assume that eradicating tax havens is something they wish to do across the whole continent, no? "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself

Matataland 09 Apr 17 8.38pm

Originally posted by legaleagle

Maybe we should bring the status of similar tax havens, in Malta, Ireland and Luxembourg, in Brexit talks.

Given the moral high ground the EU is seeking to impose on Britain with regards to Gibraltar, one would assume that eradicating tax havens is something they wish to do across the whole continent, no?

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

legaleagle 09 Apr 17 8.48pm
We can of course try to do so. My point was a different one. That it would be hypocritical to moan about the EU and Spain bringing the economic status and privileges of a (non part of the Uk) tax haven presently enjoying a privileged EU access status into the negotiations over future market access. It is not about morality, just realpolitik, and our faux moral outrage that Johnny Foreigner should do such a thing when realpolitik has been the essence of our foreign policy for centuries...we were not known as perfidious albion for nothing,no?

legaleagle

09 Apr 17 8.48pm

We can of course try to do so.

My point was a different one.

That it would be hypocritical to moan about the EU and Spain bringing the economic status and privileges of a (non part of the Uk) tax haven presently enjoying a privileged EU access status into the negotiations over future market access.

It is not about morality, just realpolitik, and our faux moral outrage that Johnny Foreigner should do such a thing when realpolitik has been the essence of our foreign policy for centuries...we were not known as perfidious albion for nothing,no?

matt_himself Matataland 09 Apr 17 9.20pm
Originally posted by legaleagle We can of course try to do so. My point was a different one. That it would be hypocritical to moan about the EU and Spain bringing the economic status and privileges of a (non part of the Uk) tax haven presently enjoying a privileged EU access status into the negotiations over future market access. It is not about morality, just realpolitik, and our faux moral outrage that Johnny Foreigner should do such a thing when realpolitik has been the essence of our foreign policy for centuries...we were not known as perfidious albion for nothing,no? I find it amusing that Bremoaners are the ones who use the 'Johnny Foreigner' type language to illustrate their points. It's kind of self defeating to that language, when Leavers aren't, no? You point has appeared to morph from being a criticism of Gibraltar's tax status, supporting Spain's stance, to stating that all Leavers are against other countries using relpolitik. I find that spurious and weird, that you can label a group like that, which is far from homogeneous, from holding such a collective view. It's also going off in a strange tangent, one which appears to confirm that whilst you possess a modicum of intelligence, not all the wires in your head are connected properly and you regularly spout bizarre ramblings as a result. Or you are a 'functioning alcoholic' and have just walloped a pint of brandy. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself

Matataland 09 Apr 17 9.20pm

Originally posted by legaleagle

We can of course try to do so.

My point was a different one.

I find it amusing that Bremoaners are the ones who use the 'Johnny Foreigner' type language to illustrate their points. It's kind of self defeating to that language, when Leavers aren't, no?

You point has appeared to morph from being a criticism of Gibraltar's tax status, supporting Spain's stance, to stating that all Leavers are against other countries using relpolitik. I find that spurious and weird, that you can label a group like that, which is far from homogeneous, from holding such a collective view. It's also going off in a strange tangent, one which appears to confirm that whilst you possess a modicum of intelligence, not all the wires in your head are connected properly and you regularly spout bizarre ramblings as a result.

Or you are a 'functioning alcoholic' and have just walloped a pint of brandy.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

legaleagle 09 Apr 17 9.26pm
Dash,I bet with myself you would at least make a second "sensible" post before lapsing into your usual biliousness. I lost! One thing's for sure,you (in your online persona) are a "functioning nutcase",no? Nighty night xxx

legaleagle

09 Apr 17 9.26pm

Dash,I bet with myself you would at least make a second "sensible" post before lapsing into your usual biliousness.

I lost!

One thing's for sure,you (in your online persona) are a "functioning nutcase",no?

Nighty night xxx

matt_himself Matataland 09 Apr 17 9.35pm
Originally posted by legaleagle Dash,I bet with myself you would at least make a second "sensible" post before lapsing into your usual biliousness. I lost! One thing's for sure,you (in your online persona) are a "functioning nutcase",no? Nighty night xxx So questioning your weird and seemingly unconnected points, isn't sensible? I guess some people love dishing out stuff but don't like getting it back, no? "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself

Matataland 09 Apr 17 9.35pm

Originally posted by legaleagle

Dash,I bet with myself you would at least make a second "sensible" post before lapsing into your usual biliousness.

I lost!

One thing's for sure,you (in your online persona) are a "functioning nutcase",no?

Nighty night xxx

So questioning your weird and seemingly unconnected points, isn't sensible?

I guess some people love dishing out stuff but don't like getting it back, no?

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

steeleye20 Croydon 09 Apr 17 9.42pm
After the UK whatever is left of it leaves the EU power bloc I wonder if the option of a joint sovereignity of Gibraltar will still be attractive to Spain as it was a few years ago. To those of us who query Spain's right to it why not look at the map it is not even an island. What would our reaction be if the Isle of Wight was Spanish? Perfidious Albion as always but don't have the clout anymore.

steeleye20

Croydon 09 Apr 17 9.42pm

After the UK whatever is left of it leaves the EU power bloc I wonder if the option of a joint sovereignity of Gibraltar will still be attractive to Spain as it was a few years ago.

To those of us who query Spain's right to it why not look at the map it is not even an island.

What would our reaction be if the Isle of Wight was Spanish?

Perfidious Albion as always but don't have the clout anymore.

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 09 Apr 17 10.42pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 After the UK whatever is left of it leaves the EU power bloc I wonder if the option of a joint sovereignity of Gibraltar will still be attractive to Spain as it was a few years ago. To those of us who query Spain's right to it why not look at the map it is not even an island. What would our reaction be if the Isle of Wight was Spanish? Perfidious Albion as always but don't have the clout anymore. So because it's adjacent to Spain means they have a claim to it? Why don't they claim France or Portugal as well? Look up Cueta and Melilla and then tell me how "valid" Spain's claim to Gibraltar is. Edited by Cucking Funt (09 Apr 2017 10.45pm) Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

Cucking Funt

Clapham on the Back 09 Apr 17 10.42pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

After the UK whatever is left of it leaves the EU power bloc I wonder if the option of a joint sovereignity of Gibraltar will still be attractive to Spain as it was a few years ago.

To those of us who query Spain's right to it why not look at the map it is not even an island.

What would our reaction be if the Isle of Wight was Spanish?

Perfidious Albion as always but don't have the clout anymore.

So because it's adjacent to Spain means they have a claim to it? Why don't they claim France or Portugal as well?

Look up Cueta and Melilla and then tell me how "valid" Spain's claim to Gibraltar is.

Edited by Cucking Funt (09 Apr 2017 10.45pm)

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

legaleagle 10 Apr 17 9.47am
Originally posted by Cucking Funt So because it's adjacent to Spain means they have a claim to it? Why don't they claim France or Portugal as well? Look up Cueta and Melilla and then tell me how "valid" Spain's claim to Gibraltar is. Edited by Cucking Funt (09 Apr 2017 10.45pm) My point was not about any Spanish claim to Gibraltar.Rather, that in light of our decision to give a big V sign to the EU,it is hardly surprising they will be looking at the situation of a dodgy tax haven on the periphery of southern europe (draining off tax revenue from nearby countries) and wanting a say in its EU market access as part of any deal with the UK..Its no different to how we would react in the world of real politik,so we should drop the faux outrage. As for Cueta and Melilla,Spain should get out of both IMHO and are hypocrites over it in relation to sovereignty claims over Gibraltar..

legaleagle

10 Apr 17 9.47am

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

So because it's adjacent to Spain means they have a claim to it? Why don't they claim France or Portugal as well?

Look up Cueta and Melilla and then tell me how "valid" Spain's claim to Gibraltar is.

Edited by Cucking Funt (09 Apr 2017 10.45pm)

My point was not about any Spanish claim to Gibraltar.Rather, that in light of our decision to give a big V sign to the EU,it is hardly surprising they will be looking at the situation of a dodgy tax haven on the periphery of southern europe (draining off tax revenue from nearby countries) and wanting a say in its EU market access as part of any deal with the UK..Its no different to how we would react in the world of real politik,so we should drop the faux outrage.

As for Cueta and Melilla,Spain should get out of both IMHO and are hypocrites over it in relation to sovereignty claims over Gibraltar..

Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 10 Apr 17 12.15pm
Originally posted by legaleagle My point was not about any Spanish claim to Gibraltar.Rather, that in light of our decision to give a big V sign to the EU,it is hardly surprising they will be looking at the situation of a dodgy tax haven on the periphery of southern europe (draining off tax revenue from nearby countries) and wanting a say in its EU market access as part of any deal with the UK..Its no different to how we would react in the world of real politik,so we should drop the faux outrage. As for Cueta and Melilla,Spain should get out of both IMHO and are hypocrites over it in relation to sovereignty claims over Gibraltar.. The point I made wasn't really disagreeing with you, old chap. It was aimed more at steeleye's nonsensical drivel. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

Cucking Funt

Clapham on the Back 10 Apr 17 12.15pm

Originally posted by legaleagle

As for Cueta and Melilla,Spain should get out of both IMHO and are hypocrites over it in relation to sovereignty claims over Gibraltar..

The point I made wasn't really disagreeing with you, old chap. It was aimed more at steeleye's nonsensical drivel.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

steeleye20 Croydon 10 Apr 17 1.32pm
Originally posted by Cucking Funt The point I made wasn't really disagreeing with you, old chap. It was aimed more at steeleye's nonsensical drivel. What would our reaction be if the Isle of Wight was Spanish? Just repeating the nonsensical drivel. No answer though is there.

steeleye20

Croydon 10 Apr 17 1.32pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

The point I made wasn't really disagreeing with you, old chap. It was aimed more at steeleye's nonsensical drivel.

What would our reaction be if the Isle of Wight was Spanish?

Just repeating the nonsensical drivel.

No answer though is there.

hedgehog50 Croydon 10 Apr 17 1.36pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 What would our reaction be if the Isle of Wight was Spanish? Just repeating the nonsensical drivel. No answer though is there. I expect Cowes would be renamed Bulls. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50

Croydon 10 Apr 17 1.36pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

What would our reaction be if the Isle of Wight was Spanish?

Just repeating the nonsensical drivel.

No answer though is there.

I expect Cowes would be renamed Bulls.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 10 Apr 17 1.52pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 What would our reaction be if the Isle of Wight was Spanish? Just repeating the nonsensical drivel. No answer though is there. It's not even a remotely comparable situation. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

Cucking Funt

Clapham on the Back 10 Apr 17 1.52pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

What would our reaction be if the Isle of Wight was Spanish?

Just repeating the nonsensical drivel.

No answer though is there.

It's not even a remotely comparable situation.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

Nest 10 Apr 17 3.44pm
How much did this affect the voters? 'data shows most asylum seekers put in poorest parts of Britain' [Link]

Nest

10 Apr 17 3.44pm

How much did this affect the voters?
'data shows most asylum seekers put in poorest parts of Britain'
[Link]

jamiemartin721 Reading 10 Apr 17 3.57pm
Originally posted by Nest you cannot shake hands with a clenched fist A fist bump? "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]

jamiemartin721

Reading 10 Apr 17 3.57pm

Originally posted by Nest

you cannot shake hands with a clenched fist

A fist bump?

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
[Link]

jamiemartin721 Reading 10 Apr 17 4.07pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 After the UK whatever is left of it leaves the EU power bloc I wonder if the option of a joint sovereignity of Gibraltar will still be attractive to Spain as it was a few years ago. To those of us who query Spain's right to it why not look at the map it is not even an island. What would our reaction be if the Isle of Wight was Spanish? Perfidious Albion as always but don't have the clout anymore. Delight, and a greater level of employment for people from the Isle of Wight as Spanish translators. Its like the Isle of Mann, secretly we all wish someone else was responsible for it. There is a reason why they put a Prison of the Isle of Wight, and that was to make it escape proof. Seriously, the only reason it has walls, is to keep the locals sexually assaulting the prisoners and staff. The only good thing about the Isle of Wight is that they walk the big cats on the beach at dawn, and its cool to watch. But in truth, its more about protecting the walkers from the locals. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]

jamiemartin721

Reading 10 Apr 17 4.07pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

After the UK whatever is left of it leaves the EU power bloc I wonder if the option of a joint sovereignity of Gibraltar will still be attractive to Spain as it was a few years ago.

To those of us who query Spain's right to it why not look at the map it is not even an island.

What would our reaction be if the Isle of Wight was Spanish?

Perfidious Albion as always but don't have the clout anymore.

Delight, and a greater level of employment for people from the Isle of Wight as Spanish translators.

Its like the Isle of Mann, secretly we all wish someone else was responsible for it. There is a reason why they put a Prison of the Isle of Wight, and that was to make it escape proof. Seriously, the only reason it has walls, is to keep the locals sexually assaulting the prisoners and staff.

The only good thing about the Isle of Wight is that they walk the big cats on the beach at dawn, and its cool to watch. But in truth, its more about protecting the walkers from the locals.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
[Link]

jamiemartin721 Reading 10 Apr 17 4.10pm
Originally posted by Nest How much did this affect the voters? 'data shows most asylum seekers put in poorest parts of Britain' [Link] Massively, it seems to have encouraged whole areas with massive voter apathy, to vote. Which I guess is a success. Of course, if I lived in Rotherham, I'd like to think I'd vote for anyone who was against housing people in Rotherham, including me - Hoping I guess they'd home me somewhere else. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]

jamiemartin721

Reading 10 Apr 17 4.10pm

Originally posted by Nest

How much did this affect the voters?
'data shows most asylum seekers put in poorest parts of Britain'
[Link]

Massively, it seems to have encouraged whole areas with massive voter apathy, to vote. Which I guess is a success. Of course, if I lived in Rotherham, I'd like to think I'd vote for anyone who was against housing people in Rotherham, including me - Hoping I guess they'd home me somewhere else.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
[Link]

hedgehog50 Croydon 10 Apr 17 4.22pm
Originally posted by Nest How much did this affect the voters? 'data shows most asylum seekers put in poorest parts of Britain' [Link] Well, if they want an asylum, contemporary Britain is the right place. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50

Croydon 10 Apr 17 4.22pm

Originally posted by Nest

How much did this affect the voters?
'data shows most asylum seekers put in poorest parts of Britain'
[Link]

Well, if they want an asylum, contemporary Britain is the right place.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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