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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 14 May 20 2.09pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Don't forget you're pots & pans !!

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BlueJay Flag UK 14 May 20 2.11pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

A top World Health Organization official said the novel coronavirus “may never go away,” becoming a long-term fact of life that must be managed, like H.I.V. The official said that while a good vaccine could be developed, there was no telling when, calling it “a moon shot.”

A depressing thought. Where there is no vaccine, controlled spread could eventually lead to most people having had it and developing immunity. Should that occur over a larger timescale than immunity retention though, which is certainly a possibly, herd immunity as a solution goes out of the window too. I can't imagine being hospitalised with covid-19 on multiple occasions will do anyone any favours.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 14 May 20 2.11pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

The government and media have scared people half to death and given them the idea that a vaccine will solve this......the 'stay at home' message has been a disaster...The using of Police to intimate people using their gardens...totally mad.

The media, in particular, are very very responsible for doubling up the fear and celebrities were used to amplify the message.

I still can't believe that we had people being called idiots for being outside and sitting in the park!. I honestly think some of us have watched way too many movies....and I'm the prepper on here.....I'm the one who thinks you need a permanent month's supply!

This thread has been dominated by those supporting the idea of full lockdown, despite the resultant mess and widespread misery and death that is going to cause. I believe that time will show that these decisions achieved little and that government folded on herd immunity when the reality was it was the only show in town.

I back humanity to eventually create a vaccine for a coronavirus......but it has to be said, it has never been achieved before.

H1N1 which caused the 1918 Spanish flu, which killed tens of millions is still around and is regarded as seasonal flu. The Hong Kong flu of 69 (H3N2) which killed over a million worldwide is still around and is part of seasonal flu. There are no vaccines only treatments. They exist mainly, but not always, as their weaker strains because obviously lethal versions kill the host quicker and so gradually die out quicker....whereas the virus that doesn't kill the host and survives within the host and continues on without successfully attacking the host. Many people don't realise that most of us have been walking around with viruses inside us most of our lives and our immune system is constantly evolving.

People who think that they can sit inside until there is a vaccine need to realise how unlikely that is anytime soon and that only herd immunity reduces their risks of catching flu or viruses.....that and time ending with only weaker versions remaining and with a very infectious strain like this.....I'd imagine that would take a longer time than usual.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 May 2020 2.24pm)

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 14 May 20 2.31pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

Don't forget you're pots & pans !!

It's the spending of tax payer money on leftist politics in the NHS.

Earlier in the thread I highlighted how the NHS is wasting taxpayer money on advising for people for 'diversity' jobs.

The 'diversity industry' is being enlarged in our public institutions and is pure leftist identity politics.

And the taxpayer is footing the bill!

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 14 May 20 2.35pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Very well said, only the lockdown was necessary short term, and pictures of multiple groups of people in parks weren’t wise. There were even tw&ts by the river in Richmond playing instruments to people congregating around them.

We now have some people who have had to work, are prepared to work, know they’ll need to work, or are going to find that one out in July, or definitely in November. But teachers, or the NEU, are threatening to stop the country from getting back to work.

The country is going mad and I have no sympathy for anyone who suffers financially after supporting this, unless they’re in a vulnerable category and they’ve somehow been shafted or the government haven’t covered them, which they should be doing for longer, and less for those who can and should get back to work.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 14 May 20 2.41pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

It's the spending of tax payer money on leftist politics in the NHS.

Earlier in the thread I highlighted how the NHS is wasting taxpayer money on advising for people for 'diversity' jobs.

The 'diversity industry' is being enlarged in our public institutions and is pure leftist identity politics.

And the taxpayer is footing the bill!

I saw an nhs advert for a hospital temperature manager on £44k or £66k. Can’t remember which. After hearing about the guessing and misreporting of deaths it makes me want the whole of the nhs backroom jobs and processes audited. You’d like to think after project communism the government would have more room to follow this through instead of being prevented by the BMA and whoever else.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 14 May 20 2.50pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

Don't forget you're pots & pans !!

When I worked in the bank we were forever getting new initiatives so in my time apart from my day job I also became the Y2K guy and the euro guy and the centralise technology guy and then the decentralise technology guy etc..

My point is we didn't need a full time employee for these things you make it part of everybody's remit. So the person who buys and maintains hospital transport is responsible for ensuring he is adhering to climate friendly policies likewise the person responsible for ensuring the hospital has electricity, sewage and water and so on.


Now of course these individual managers will need guidance I don't expect them to suddenly become climate change experts in their field. The guidance should come from a small team of experts hired by the NHS as a whole rather than individually at local level. At the very least NHS authorities should shared these resources between themselves to get economies of scale.

Anyway that is how the private sector does this sort of thing.

 


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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 14 May 20 2.51pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Traffic wardens?


He said workers.

Not w@nkers

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 14 May 20 2.55pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

The crisis has been a godsend to Khan and TFL. Just before it really started the ratings companies downgraded TFL debt as Khan had made a complete mess by not increasing fares and spending money he didn't have.

Of course the crisis has had a massive hit on TFL but Khan can now hide behind this to cover up his failure to get to grips with TFL finances. So he can now blame the government and the unions no doubt will back him.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 14 May 20 3.25pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

If those hibernating forever eventually die from Covid then will that mean all union heads will die?

 


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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 14 May 20 3.31pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

If those hibernating forever eventually die from Covid then will that mean all union heads will die?

If Maggie failed to kill them all then this virus has little chance.

Edited by ASCPFC (14 May 2020 3.31pm)

 


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