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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 25 Aug 17 12.08pm | |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
More lunacy to stop us being offended. Perhaps someone with better decoding skills than I have could explain what offence might be caused to us. Edited by hedgehog50 (25 Aug 2017 12.06pm) Reg plates. I'd be angrier about smear campaigns by the alt right. Anna Friel!
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chesterfieldeagle 25 Aug 17 12.13pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Reg plates. I'd be angrier about smear campaigns by the alt right. Anna Friel! Even more angry with the labour MP who wants the underage girls raped 'to keep their mouths shut for the sake of diversity'
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Hrolf The Ganger 25 Aug 17 12.16pm | |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
More lunacy to stop us being offended. Perhaps someone with better decoding skills than I have could explain what offence might be caused to us. Edited by hedgehog50 (25 Aug 2017 12.06pm) Ha ha. This is the best laugh I have had today. We have become weak and pathetic. I include myself in that. Watched a programme about WW1 last night and the hardships involved and we are worrying about number plates. I weep for this country..... then I realise I don't give a funk and change channel.
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Hrolf The Ganger 25 Aug 17 12.22pm | |
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Originally posted by chesterfieldeagle
Even more angry with the labour MP who wants the underage girls raped 'to keep their mouths shut for the sake of diversity' The British public has become so weak that they will put up with anything so long as it doesn't touch them personally. You just wonder how much of this sort of s*** they will endure for a quiet life.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 25 Aug 17 1.12pm | |
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Originally posted by chesterfieldeagle
Even more angry with the labour MP who wants the underage girls raped 'to keep their mouths shut for the sake of diversity' Do you really believe she wants that? Really? Or was she a twittert***?
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Hrolf The Ganger 25 Aug 17 1.31pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Do you really believe she wants that? Really? Or was she a twittert***? Oh! I see. It's how you interpret it. So if someone likes a Ku Klux Klan post about repatriating Black people, they might be misinterpreted? Ha ha.
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chesterfieldeagle 25 Aug 17 1.42pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Do you really believe she wants that? Really? Or was she a twittert***? Yes. I don't do Facebook or Twitter but I understand how they work. My interpretation of it is if you agree with a comment or certain opinion on a subject that someone has posted you share it and like it, which is exactly what she did. There should be no excuses.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 25 Aug 17 1.54pm | |
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Originally posted by chesterfieldeagle
Yes. I don't do Facebook or Twitter but I understand how they work. My interpretation of it is if you agree with a comment or certain opinion on a subject that someone has posted you share it and like it, which is exactly what she did. There should be no excuses. Exactly. A Twittert***.
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chesterfieldeagle 25 Aug 17 2.00pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Exactly. A Twittert***. Take twitter out and I think you've got it right.
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hedgehog50 Croydon 25 Aug 17 2.12pm | |
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Interesting letter in the Spectator this week: Nor was he an enthusiast for slavery. A slave owner by proxy, he appears to have loathed the experience. In 1856 he wrote to his wife saying that ‘In this enlightened age, there are few I believe, but what will acknowledge, that slavery as an institution, is a moral & political evil in any Country.’ He supported his wife and her mother in their campaign to liberate slaves, and helped his wife and daughter to set up an illegal school for slaves at Arlington. All the Arlington slaves were freed in 1862. These factors, his military genius and his reputation as a fine ‘Southern gentleman’ meant that Lee was admired almost as much in the North as in Dixie and was a unifying force after the war. In 1962 a Barracks at West Point was named for him. So it is all the sadder, as you argue, that Lee has become politicised and a victim of ‘identity politics’. As ever, you have to ask how much history those on either the right or the left of these arguments actually know.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 25 Aug 17 2.41pm | |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Interesting letter in the Spectator this week: Nor was he an enthusiast for slavery. A slave owner by proxy, he appears to have loathed the experience. In 1856 he wrote to his wife saying that ‘In this enlightened age, there are few I believe, but what will acknowledge, that slavery as an institution, is a moral & political evil in any Country.’ He supported his wife and her mother in their campaign to liberate slaves, and helped his wife and daughter to set up an illegal school for slaves at Arlington. All the Arlington slaves were freed in 1862. These factors, his military genius and his reputation as a fine ‘Southern gentleman’ meant that Lee was admired almost as much in the North as in Dixie and was a unifying force after the war. In 1962 a Barracks at West Point was named for him. So it is all the sadder, as you argue, that Lee has become politicised and a victim of ‘identity politics’. As ever, you have to ask how much history those on either the right or the left of these arguments actually know. I think its still more about the kind of politics the people who 'revere their tradition and heritage of the South and the Confederacy' than the actual people the statues are of. The irony of course is that the South would have done away with Slavery fairly soon, as industrialisation was rendering slavery an expensive proposition anyhow - Slavery isn't really conducive to a industrialised economy. The North, being more industrialised largely done away with the concept of slavery not on moral grounds, but pragmatic ones.
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Ray in Houston Houston 25 Aug 17 2.45pm | |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Nor was he an enthusiast for slavery. A slave owner by proxy, he appears to have loathed the experience. In 1856 he wrote to his wife saying that ‘In this enlightened age, there are few I believe, but what will acknowledge, that slavery as an institution, is a moral & political evil in any Country.’
Lee was known as a cruel and unforgiving slave owner. Further, during the war he captured freed slaves in the north and sent them to the south; his troops killed black union soldiers who were trying to surrender. He was also a right b****** to his own troops. As I said, very few people are steadfastly evil or good, but trying to paint Lee as a tortured, progressive soul over slavery is a rewriting of history far greater, and far more dangerous, than moving his statue. He is not a sympathetic or misunderstood figure; he was a skilled general, a cruel man and someone who took up arms against his own countrymen in order to preserve the right to own people.
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