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cryrst The garden of England 01 Oct 21 2.40pm
Originally posted by croydon proud Think you mean Boris, he"s increasing income tax and national insurance, and done it already, what sir Keir might do in the event of him ever getting in, which is slim, is just Hans Christian Anderson! Concentrate on the Boris tax rises that are happening- not with whataboutery. How does it affect you che?

cryrst

The garden of England 01 Oct 21 2.40pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

Think you mean Boris, he"s increasing income tax and national insurance, and done it already, what sir Keir might do in the event of him ever getting in, which is slim, is just Hans Christian Anderson! Concentrate on the Boris tax rises that are happening- not with whataboutery.

How does it affect you che?

croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 01 Oct 21 2.50pm
Originally posted by cryrst How does it affect you che? Just reporting facts adolf, just reporting facts.

croydon proud

Any european country i fancy! 01 Oct 21 2.50pm

Originally posted by cryrst

How does it affect you che?

Just reporting facts adolf, just reporting facts.

steeleye20 Croydon 01 Oct 21 3.40pm
Originally posted by Jacey So under Sir Keir,those genuinely hard working successful people with ' broad shoulders' will pay more to finance his out of control spending plans. Increases in income tax and capital gains tax coming your way soon under his leadership as he courts popularity with the have nots and the damn lazy and lay abouts in our society. Edited by Jacey (01 Oct 2021 11.55am) You seem to have missed the largest tax hike since WW2.

steeleye20

Croydon 01 Oct 21 3.40pm

Originally posted by Jacey

So under Sir Keir,those genuinely hard working successful people with ' broad shoulders' will pay more to finance his out of control spending plans.
Increases in income tax and capital gains tax coming your way soon under his leadership as he courts popularity with the have nots and the damn lazy and lay abouts in our society.

Edited by Jacey (01 Oct 2021 11.55am)

You seem to have missed the largest tax hike since WW2.

Stirlingsays 01 Oct 21 4.04pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 You seem to have missed the largest tax hike since WW2. Labour will attack your pension as well. If you're fine with that then cool. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

01 Oct 21 4.04pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

You seem to have missed the largest tax hike since WW2.

Labour will attack your pension as well.

If you're fine with that then cool.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

becky over the moon 01 Oct 21 4.11pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Labour will attack your pension as well. If you're fine with that then cool. WILL???????? Gordon Brown totally wrecked my old age provision years ago. A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

becky

over the moon 01 Oct 21 4.11pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Labour will attack your pension as well.

If you're fine with that then cool.

WILL???????? Gordon Brown totally wrecked my old age provision years ago.

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

Stirlingsays 01 Oct 21 4.14pm
Originally posted by becky WILL???????? Gordon Brown totally wrecked my old age provision years ago. Don't you have the treble lock? I'm no expert with pension stuff but I think with Labour that's a certainty to go. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

01 Oct 21 4.14pm

Originally posted by becky

WILL???????? Gordon Brown totally wrecked my old age provision years ago.

Don't you have the treble lock?

I'm no expert with pension stuff but I think with Labour that's a certainty to go.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

becky over the moon 01 Oct 21 4.16pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Don't you have the treble lock? I'm no expert with pension stuff but I think with Labour that's a certainty to go. At the moment yes, on the State Retirement pension - and thank God for that. It was my private pension arrangements that GB wrecked, leaving me far more dependent on the State one than I wanted/expected to be. A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

becky

over the moon 01 Oct 21 4.16pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Don't you have the treble lock?

I'm no expert with pension stuff but I think with Labour that's a certainty to go.

At the moment yes, on the State Retirement pension - and thank God for that.
It was my private pension arrangements that GB wrecked, leaving me far more dependent on the State one than I wanted/expected to be.

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

Stirlingsays 01 Oct 21 4.22pm
Originally posted by becky At the moment yes, on the State Retirement pension - and thank God for that. It was my private pension arrangements that GB wrecked, leaving me far more dependent on the State one than I wanted/expected to be. Yep Gordon Brown was a terrible PM. Treated the whole episode like it was a divine right yet performed like he couldn't manage his own underpants.....quite representative of his party. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

01 Oct 21 4.22pm

Originally posted by becky

Yep Gordon Brown was a terrible PM.

Treated the whole episode like it was a divine right yet performed like he couldn't manage his own underpants.....quite representative of his party.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

steeleye20 Croydon 01 Oct 21 4.22pm
No. The triple lock has been suspended by the tories, starting 2022/23. Probably means it is doomed.

steeleye20

Croydon 01 Oct 21 4.22pm

No.

The triple lock has been suspended by the tories, starting 2022/23.

Probably means it is doomed.

Stirlingsays 01 Oct 21 4.27pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 No. The triple lock has been suspended by the tories, starting 2022/23. Probably means it is doomed. Let's put it like this. Older people tend to vote Tory for various reasons. The Tories are likely to treat them better than Labour for that reason alone. Labour are all about morality campaigns and 'social justice'. They will look to change the state percentage balance to younger voters and minorities. It's hardly rocket science. If you want a Labour government then fair enough, but it's a bit Turkey voting for Christmas in personal terms. Though I do recognise that the economy is fecked two ways to Sundays anyway.....so it's hardly like this decade is going to be a holiday in the sun. I apologise for my depressive tone. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

01 Oct 21 4.27pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

No.

The triple lock has been suspended by the tories, starting 2022/23.

Probably means it is doomed.

Let's put it like this.

Older people tend to vote Tory for various reasons. The Tories are likely to treat them better than Labour for that reason alone.

Labour are all about morality campaigns and 'social justice'. They will look to change the state percentage balance to younger voters and minorities.

It's hardly rocket science.

If you want a Labour government then fair enough, but it's a bit Turkey voting for Christmas in personal terms.

Though I do recognise that the economy is fecked two ways to Sundays anyway.....so it's hardly like this decade is going to be a holiday in the sun.

I apologise for my depressive tone.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

cryrst The garden of England 01 Oct 21 7.52pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Let's put it like this. Older people tend to vote Tory for various reasons. The Tories are likely to treat them better than Labour for that reason alone. Labour are all about morality campaigns and 'social justice'. They will look to change the state percentage balance to younger voters and minorities. It's hardly rocket science. If you want a Labour government then fair enough, but it's a bit Turkey voting for Christmas in personal terms. Though I do recognise that the economy is fecked two ways to Sundays anyway.....so it's hardly like this decade is going to be a holiday in the sun. I apologise for my depressive tone. I'm taking my 25% tax free next year before that's curtailed!

cryrst

The garden of England 01 Oct 21 7.52pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Let's put it like this.

Older people tend to vote Tory for various reasons. The Tories are likely to treat them better than Labour for that reason alone.

Labour are all about morality campaigns and 'social justice'. They will look to change the state percentage balance to younger voters and minorities.

It's hardly rocket science.

If you want a Labour government then fair enough, but it's a bit Turkey voting for Christmas in personal terms.

Though I do recognise that the economy is fecked two ways to Sundays anyway.....so it's hardly like this decade is going to be a holiday in the sun.

I apologise for my depressive tone.

I'm taking my 25% tax free next year before that's curtailed!

croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 01 Oct 21 8.03pm
Originally posted by becky WILL???????? Gordon Brown totally wrecked my old age provision years ago. On the bright side, you have solidarity with the men Becky, you wouldn"t want to take yours 5 years earlier than the men in these womens rights days would you?

croydon proud

Any european country i fancy! 01 Oct 21 8.03pm

Originally posted by becky

WILL???????? Gordon Brown totally wrecked my old age provision years ago.

On the bright side, you have solidarity with the men Becky, you wouldn"t want to take yours 5 years earlier than the men in these womens rights days would you?

croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 01 Oct 21 8.04pm
Originally posted by cryrst I'm taking my 25% tax free next year before that's curtailed! Boris is already on the case mate.

croydon proud

Any european country i fancy! 01 Oct 21 8.04pm

Originally posted by cryrst

I'm taking my 25% tax free next year before that's curtailed!

Boris is already on the case mate.

Badger11 Beckenham 01 Oct 21 8.07pm
Originally posted by cryrst I'm taking my 25% tax free next year before that's curtailed! So did I, I didn't need it but you don't have to spend it either. My IFA said you'll regret it if they change the tax rules. One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 01 Oct 21 8.07pm

Originally posted by cryrst

I'm taking my 25% tax free next year before that's curtailed!

So did I, I didn't need it but you don't have to spend it either. My IFA said you'll regret it if they change the tax rules.

One more point

daven Hailsham 01 Oct 21 8.19pm
I have no problem with the rich supporting the Conservative party. But what grinds my gears is people without a proverbial pot to p in putting them in government through misguided shpeil put out in the sun and others.

daven

Hailsham 01 Oct 21 8.19pm

I have no problem with the rich supporting the Conservative party. But what grinds my gears is people without a proverbial pot to p in putting them in government through misguided shpeil put out in the sun and others.

croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 01 Oct 21 8.36pm
Originally posted by daven I have no problem with the rich supporting the Conservative party. But what grinds my gears is people without a proverbial pot to p in putting them in government through misguided shpeil put out in the sun and others. My thoughts exactly! Some people who have grown up with privilege, view equality as oppression! Nothing to do with your post, just threw it in there, it"s the people with nothing voting for these that annoy me most, more than the thieving eton boys thieving. thats to be expected!

croydon proud

Any european country i fancy! 01 Oct 21 8.36pm

Originally posted by daven

My thoughts exactly! Some people who have grown up with privilege, view equality as oppression! Nothing to do with your post, just threw it in there, it"s the people with nothing voting for these that annoy me most, more than the thieving eton boys thieving. thats to be expected!

becky over the moon 01 Oct 21 9.55pm
Originally posted by croydon proud On the bright side, you have solidarity with the men Becky, you wouldn"t want to take yours 5 years earlier than the men in these womens rights days would you? Sorry to say I was too early for that - deferred for a year and got mine at 61, after 46 years continuous working. I feel no guilt. A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

becky

over the moon 01 Oct 21 9.55pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

On the bright side, you have solidarity with the men Becky, you wouldn"t want to take yours 5 years earlier than the men in these womens rights days would you?

Sorry to say I was too early for that - deferred for a year and got mine at 61, after 46 years continuous working. I feel no guilt.

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

Stirlingsays 01 Oct 21 10.09pm
Originally posted by cryrst I'm taking my 25% tax free next year before that's curtailed! Get it while you can! 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

01 Oct 21 10.09pm

Originally posted by cryrst

I'm taking my 25% tax free next year before that's curtailed!

Get it while you can!

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays 01 Oct 21 10.11pm
Originally posted by croydon proud My thoughts exactly! Some people who have grown up with privilege, view equality as oppression! Nothing to do with your post, just threw it in there, it"s the people with nothing voting for these that annoy me most, more than the thieving eton boys thieving. thats to be expected! So Croydon what have you done to reduce your lifestyle to the universal global average? 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

01 Oct 21 10.11pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

My thoughts exactly! Some people who have grown up with privilege, view equality as oppression! Nothing to do with your post, just threw it in there, it"s the people with nothing voting for these that annoy me most, more than the thieving eton boys thieving. thats to be expected!

So Croydon what have you done to reduce your lifestyle to the universal global average?

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

HKOwen Hong Kong 02 Oct 21 12.11am
What about the rich Labour supporters? You think all the red wall voters are in poverty? Originally posted by daven I have no problem with the rich supporting the Conservative party. But what grinds my gears is people without a proverbial pot to p in putting them in government through misguided shpeil put out in the sun and others. Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

HKOwen

Hong Kong 02 Oct 21 12.11am

What about the rich Labour supporters?

You think all the red wall voters are in poverty?

Originally posted by daven

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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