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eulalio Girls just wanna have Funt 14 Jul 05 11.47am |
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Quote cpfc-rjd at 14 Jul 2005 11:45am
Quote halfmanhalfslug at 14 Jul 2005 11:35am
What f*cking difference does it make if we have the same culture or not? Why not CELEBRATE these differences and make the most of being able to dabble in and enjoy others' culture, rather than condemn it and call for all traces of it to be expelled? If we were all the same as eachother - especially if that involved being involved in tired cliches about the specialness of Britain - then it'd be a boring country indeed.
But cultures are NOT mixing are they? That's the problem.
Your comments are as simplistic as any from the BNP. The reality is far more complicated. Multi-culturalism becomes a problem when communities don't mix, when they consider themselves separate and apart from the main society. No doubt you would pin the blame for this on racism etc. But part of the blame must lie with the communities themselves.
On the contrary I agree 100%. It takes both sides to break apart, and both sides to come together.
face up to your share of the blame you filthy terrorist sympathiser - Petealiator 8/7/2005 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Intolerance of ambiguity is the mark of an authoritarian personality - Theodor Adorno
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furrybloke Hemel Hempstead 14 Jul 05 11.49am |
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Quote halfmanhalfslug at 14 Jul 2005 11:35am
What f*cking difference does it make if we have the same culture or not? Why not CELEBRATE these differences and make the most of being able to dabble in and enjoy others' culture, rather than condemn it.
Here, Here & add respect to celebrate & enjoy. But remember HMHS muslims & others should should be prepared to do the same with the British culture
Edited by Penge Eagle (14 Jul 2005 1:03pm)
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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 14 Jul 05 11.50am |
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Quote cpfc-rjd at 14 Jul 2005 11:45am
Quote halfmanhalfslug at 14 Jul 2005 11:35am
What f*cking difference does it make if we have the same culture or not? Why not CELEBRATE these differences and make the most of being able to dabble in and enjoy others' culture, rather than condemn it and call for all traces of it to be expelled? If we were all the same as eachother - especially if that involved being involved in tired cliches about the specialness of Britain - then it'd be a boring country indeed.
But cultures are NOT mixing are they? That's the problem.
Your comments are as simplistic as any from the BNP. The reality is far more complicated. Multi-culturalism becomes a problem when communities don't mix, when they consider themselves separate and apart from the main society. No doubt you would pin the blame for this on racism etc. But part of the blame must lie with the communities themselves.
Quite right. The diffrence between multi-culturalism and muli-ethnicity has become confused. It's the responsibility of immigrants to integrate with the host culture - the refusal to integrate shows a complete lack of respect to the country that's taken them in.
Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Wilko Walking in a Freedman Wonderland..... 14 Jul 05 12.04pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called '2 minute silence at 12pm - don't forget!' by Moose
Just had ours, bell went and we all scurried outside, I was surprised at how many people were actualy out on addiscoombe road. About 70 people from my office and loads more from other places. the only sound was a police car speeeding past.
I do not want to have to do another one of them for this reason again.
R.I.P all those who lost their lives last friday.
Whoever did this, You are cowardly to do so. Your skum!
Palace Boys We Are Here. Shag Your Woman And Drink Your Beer!
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npn Crowborough 14 Jul 05 12.05pm |
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Just been outside for the 2 minute silence (City Road, EC1) and I have to sya, that's the most impressive I've ever seen - no traffic moving, both sides of the street full to overflowing with people who left their places of work. Very moving (not sure it helps at all, but still a moving experience)
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Wilko Walking in a Freedman Wonderland..... 14 Jul 05 12.07pm |
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Quote npn at 14 Jul 2005 12:05pm
Just been outside for the 2 minute silence (City Road, EC1) and I have to sya, that's the most impressive I've ever seen - no traffic moving, both sides of the street full to overflowing with people who left their places of work. Very moving (not sure it helps at all, but still a moving experience)
Me too! Lost of people out.
RIP those whoo died in last week cowardly attack on innocent people.
Palace Boys We Are Here. Shag Your Woman And Drink Your Beer!
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kav The Helicopter View 14 Jul 05 12.09pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called '2 minute silence at 12pm - don't forget!' by Moose
It was very well respected where I am.All outside the building.
Looking at the people around me,I couldn`t help but think it was people,just like me and them,who got caught up on that terrible day.Sad.
Everytime I get high I lay my head on my baby's breasts
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Balham Burner 14 Jul 05 12.12pm |
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Amazing in Parliament Square - MPs, couriers, cab drivers, tourists, office workers. All started clapping at the end- quality.
Moments like that realise how much better things are when people come together in solidarity.
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Blue'n'red Field of Chels (Orpington) 14 Jul 05 12.13pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called '2 minute silence at 12pm - don't forget!' by Moose
Most people from my office went outside ... there was a bit of mass confusion as some people claimed it was 12 o clock now ... it was settled when the bells of a nearby church rang ... only things that seemed to move were foreign lorries/coaches. We all observed a bus driver refusing to let someone on as the driver wanted to observe the silence - some people (this bus passenger) have NO respect!! Was it just an illusion in my mind or did all the traffic lights (well those that I could see anyway) turn red for the 2 minutes?
They say hard work never hurt anyone ... but why take a chance?
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Moose In the sewer pipe... 14 Jul 05 12.17pm |
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I went out at about 11.40 and wandered up to Aldgate. I signed the book of condolence there and browsed through all the tributes and flowers laid there by people from all around the world.
I was part of a crowd ushered onto the steps in front of St. Botolph's Church and ended up being stood behind the Commissioner of the City Police and Tim O'Toole, the boss of London Underground. By noon, there were thousands of people lining the streets around the Aldgate one way system. The 2 minutes' silence was observed beautifully, with traffic at a standstill, engines turned off. The hymn Abide With Me was sung - that hymn is an emotional one at the best of times, and I saw people openly crying during the rendition.
The response of Londoners, of all colours and creeds was plain for all to see. We will not be beaten, we will not be afraid, and we will carry on as we always have, no matter what these scum throw at us. It was truly inspiring.
Edited by Moose (14 Jul 2005 12:18pm)
Goodness is what you do. Not who you pray to.
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Balham Burner 14 Jul 05 12.23pm |
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Quote Moose at 14 Jul 2005 12:17pm
I went out at about 11.40 and wandered up to Aldgate. I signed the book of condolence there and browsed through all the tributes and flowers laid there by people from all around the world.
I was part of a crowd ushered onto the steps in front of St. Botolph's Church and ended up being stood behind the Commissioner of the City Police and Tim O'Toole, the boss of London Underground. By noon, there were thousands of people lining the streets around the Aldgate one way system. The 2 minutes' silence was observed beautifully, with traffic at a standstill, engines turned off. The hymn Abide With Me was sung - that hymn is an emotional one at the best of times, and I saw people openly crying during the rendition.
The response of Londoners, of all colours and creeds was plain for all to see. We will not be beaten, we will not be afraid, and we will carry on as we always have, no matter what these scum throw at us. It was truly inspiring.
Edited by Moose (14 Jul 2005 12:18pm)
Well said.
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REDNBLUEARMY69 14 Jul 05 1.30pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called '2 minute silence at 12pm - don't forget!' by Moose
everyone from my building went outside in to Holborn High Street and was an eerie silemce and very emotional 2 mins for people
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naughty'n'nice Purley 14 Jul 05 1.40pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called '2 minute silence at 12pm - don't forget!' by Moose
I was in Waitrose and everyone just stood by their trolleys and took part...but i swear that two minutes was short.
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eulalio Girls just wanna have Funt 14 Jul 05 1.42pm |
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Nice one Moose.
Fleet St & Strand were similarly stopped. I have never heard London so quiet. It was an awesome display of strength - "inspiring" is the right word.
It puts everything else in its true perspective.
Edited by halfmanhalfslug (14 Jul 2005 1:42pm)
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Bexter By the Sea 14 Jul 05 2.20pm |
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yeah, it was a cabbie and some idiot with a trolley who couldn't stop for 2 flippin mins either that spoilt it for me too. (south bank)
Edited by Bexter (14 Jul 2005 2:21pm)
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kav The Helicopter View 14 Jul 05 4.24pm |
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BBC ticker says the police have released cctv images of the bus bomber.More soon.
Everytime I get high I lay my head on my baby's breasts
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NickinOX Sailing country. 14 Jul 05 4.37pm |
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Quote furrybloke at 14 Jul 2005 10:48am I am going on holiday to Turkey this year.
If I wear a fez I will be arrested or beaten as it is an insult. If my wife goes topless she will be arrested. If we do these we know what will happen in Turkey.
In the UK The leader of the BNP is arrested & charged for expressing his view in private with a reporter/copper I can't remember which (I do not agree) In Finsbury Park Abu Hamza expressed his anti-british views in public, no arrest Someone has know taken over from him no arrest. Eventually someone will lose there temper & it will kick off down there & the preacher will be given all the protection in the world & by the way these guys a sponging off us in dole money & handouts without good reason (not racist, I would have the same view on a white person before you say)
We should as humans be tolerant this is not a purely white thing, if people do not want to intergarte that is up to them that is what makes us a free society, but you must respect the laws & values of those around you & not force your opions on them.
Just to confirm: in most tourist resorts going topless is completely normal. Wearing a fez is not an insult, the fez was banned by Kemal Ataturk for the same reasons the French have banned headscarves. It was part of his drive for secularisation and to move away from the Osmanli past.
I get the gist of what you are saying and I can see your point, but we are not in Turkey, there fore you are not really comparing like with like. I think the comparisons within Britain do have some validity.
Edited by NickinOX (14 Jul 2005 4:53pm)
Edited by NickinOX (14 Jul 2005 5:13pm)
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kav The Helicopter View 14 Jul 05 4.41pm |
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[Link]
First image of the bus bomber - a Jamaican born Britain
Everytime I get high I lay my head on my baby's breasts
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NickinOX Sailing country. 14 Jul 05 4.47pm |
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Quote Balham Burner at 14 Jul 2005 11:11am
I thought you meant Monghuls (spelling?)!! As in Genghis Khan....
Edited by Balham Burner (14 Jul 2005 11:12am)
Moghuls, Mughals etc. I am pretty certain that the upper classes of India were descendents of the Mughal (Mongol) empire. Who spread into India via Afghanistan in the 13th and 14th centuries.
Edited by NickinOX (14 Jul 2005 5:14pm)
If you come to a fork in the road, take it.
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