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"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

why don't you just put all the dirt in one post?

Sure he's a dick at times...what politician isn't?

He's also said the odd spot on thing:

"But anyone who believes that the eternal issue of war and peace in Europe has been permanently laid to rest could be making a monumental error. The demons haven't been banished; they are merely sleeping, as the wars in Bosnia and Kosovo have shown us."

"A united Europe is our Continent's only chance to avoid falling off the world's radar. The heads of government of Germany, France and the United Kingdom also know that their voice is only heard internationally because they speak through the megaphone of the European Union".

Utter bullcrap. We are members of NATO, a nuclear power with a permanent seat on the UNSC. We have huge soft-power that projects globally (test: go to Beijing and say you are from the UK. Do the same, say you are French. Note the difference), a truly international language, with cultural ties & a legal system shared among a huge number of people.

We do not need to speak through any such "EU megaphone"; if you genuinely fall for that claptrap it demonstrates your utter lack of awareness of the outside world, and our place in it. Ergo, I assume, your myopic EU fanaticism.

Very well put. No one cares one f*** if your from Luxembourg or Malta or any other Isle of Wight size country in Europe. The UK will be fine when it eventually leaves.

Pro USA & Israel

Our permanent seat is already under challenge and before long will be going,going gone..we remain at the behest of our American sponsor and now stripped ofg EU support..

NATO has no international clout other than as a vehicle of US foreign policy..

We may be a nuclear power.We have been for more than 60 years. Hasn't affected the steady one way drop in our international influence,as with France (also a nuclear power)

We do indeed carry an "ever shrinking" soft power (compare it globally to 20 years ago and 40 years ago)from days of Empire ...but in the world of realpolitik and the calculations of China (and yes I have been there) it counts for heading for zero..

Myopic Euro fanaticism? Utter bullcrap. Just realism is a real world of real politik. To suggest an EU of UK,France and Germany hitting in unison doesn't have more weight globally than the UK on its own is letting fantasy rule IMHO.

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God, legal hates the idea of the nation state doesn't he. So much so that I think he actually believes the stuff he says...Well he wants it to be true.

We have the sixth largest, sometimes fifth largest economy in the world by GDP and he talks as if we don't matter. We are ranked as the sixth most powerful military in the world and one of the few nuclear capable ones and he thinks we are going to be losing our seat at the security council.

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Not a fifth columnist exactly...more of a 0.5 columnist.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Ah the nationalism of the right - We don't want immigrants, but we're happy to have largely seen UK companies beaten out of the UK markets, and own large stakes of privatised industry and services.

We're a 'McDonalds' franchise, how patriotic is that, when so many people working in the UK is working for a foreign national company.

A salute to national pride, as I go to work for Japanese, US, French and even Benelux based IT companies....

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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oh dear, panic really setting in I see. This should get a lot worse leading up to April 2019. Big box of popcorn ordered