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footythoughts Flag Beckenham 29 Mar 23 1.19am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I think people can observe for themselves how you have behaved on this forum as to how seriously they can take assurances from yourself. What is this, your third or fourth account now? Seemingly obsessed with being on here.

You've made near 40,000 posts, I'm far from obsessed with being on here. If stating that looking beyond the ultra focus on 'the left' posters, I take issue with those who genuinely have time for actual fascist groups leads you to attempt to get my account closed then so be it. If any mod has concerns about my posts I'm more than happy to hear from them.


 

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Originally posted by footythoughts

You've made near 40,000 posts, I'm far from obsessed with being on here. If stating that looking beyond the ultra focus on 'the left' posters, I take issue with those who genuinely have time for actual fascist groups leads you to attempt to get my account closed then so be it. If any mod has concerns about my posts I'm more than happy to hear from them.

I've been on here 13 or 14 years and I've seen this site go from being majority left to majority right. We only ever had people moaning about 'fascists' when the far left were here.....Most football sites tend to the left but when one exists that isn't....oh the moaning, fascist this, fascist that.....Anything the right believed thirty years ago is fascist to you lot.

You seemingly only exist to deflect people from referring to what power is actually doing. Perhaps if the 'fascists' ever take over in this country (which is a fantasy) I'd have some sympathy with your argumentation.....because power always deserves scrutiny.

You are fundamentally dishonest to still be on here. Mods have banned you previously and you have just created a new account.......It's hardly a new practice but I've never known someone as obsessed as you at it.

 


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footythoughts Flag Beckenham 29 Mar 23 2.06am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I've been on here 13 or 14 years and I've seen this site go from being majority left to majority right. We only ever had people moaning about 'fascists' when the far left were here.....Most football sites tend to the left but when one exists that isn't....oh the moaning, fascist this, fascist that.....Anything the right believed thirty years ago is fascist to you lot.

You seemingly only exist to deflect people from referring to what power is actually doing. Perhaps if the 'fascists' ever take over in this country (which is a fantasy) I'd have some sympathy with your argumentation.....because power always deserves scrutiny.

You are fundamentally dishonest to still be on here. Mods have banned you previously and you have just created a new account.......It's hardly a new practice but I've never known someone as obsessed as you at it.

Nothing about my views are 'far left'. I stated that becoming politically hyper focused on the left or moderate 'boomer' views is not the full picture and that people who pepper and berate those individuals, while overlooking fascist groups and alignment or appreciation of them are not free from scutinity either. Ultimately whichever way you slice it, Wisbech is honest about his politics on here, as am I by the way. And it's not 'far left'.

I'm happy to speak with mods about my posts including my mention of facsism if that specifically appears to be a problem for anyone here. Trying to silence someone from even expressing views that relate to groups closely aligned with radicilsation and the like is not a good thing.

 

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Originally posted by footythoughts

Nothing about my views are 'far left'. I stated that becoming politically hyper focused on the left or moderate 'boomer' views is not the full picture and that people who pepper and berate those individuals, while overlooking fascist groups and alignment or appreciation of them are not free from scutinity either. Ultimately whichever way you slice it, Wisbech is honest about his politics on here, as am I by the way. And it's not 'far left'.

I'm happy to speak with mods about my posts including my mention of facsism if that specifically appears to be a problem for anyone here. Trying to silence someone from even expressing views that relate to groups closely aligned with radicilsation and the like is not a good thing.

Well, I haven't complained, but again, you are back on here after being previously banned multiple times. It's fundamentally dishonest and against site rules.

As for 'radicalisation'.....it's you who constantly want to bleat on about it. These topics rarely come up outside of you or WE waffling about 'fascism'. There are no 'radical' groups pushed on here. More often that not, it's people like you trying to censor what people say.

In fact, aside from 'Gusset', that nasty piece of work who tried to shut this and other sites down, I can only think of you who constantly makes this claim of radicalisation.

You state you aren't far left yet this is exactly what the far left do all the time. In some aspects I believe you and like I say, and unlike you, I make no claim to a window into men's souls but what I can say is that you have already proven yourself fundamentally capable of dishonest practice just by still being here.

Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Mar 2023 2.19am)

 


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Anyway I'm off to bed, this stuff is all just a bit dysfunctional.

 


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Originally posted by footythoughts

Nothing about my views are 'far left'. I stated that becoming politically hyper focused on the left or moderate 'boomer' views is not the full picture and that people who pepper and berate those individuals, while overlooking fascist groups and alignment or appreciation of them are not free from scutinity either. Ultimately whichever way you slice it, Wisbech is honest about his politics on here, as am I by the way. And it's not 'far left'.

I'm happy to speak with mods about my posts including my mention of facsism if that specifically appears to be a problem for anyone here. Trying to silence someone from even expressing views that relate to groups closely aligned with radicilsation and the like is not a good thing.

Funniest comment of the year prize coming your way!

 

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Originally posted by footythoughts

It certainly holds meaning when used exactly in the same manner that your father would have. As in for actual explicitably fascist groups and beliefs and those with time for them. I agree that words can be misused outside of that context.

Well, that's my point. The word is no longer confined to actual fascist groups, it is used as a general term of abuse, often to people merely expressing common sense views.

 

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footythoughts Flag Beckenham 29 Mar 23 7.39am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

In fact, aside from 'Gusset', that nasty piece of work who tried to shut this and other sites down, I can only think of you who constantly makes this claim of radicalisation.

You state you aren't far left yet this is exactly what the far left do all the time. In some aspects I believe you and like I say, and unlike you, I make no claim to a window into men's souls but what I can say is that you have already proven yourself fundamentally capable of dishonest practice just by still being here.

Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Mar 2023 2.19am)

Just because you butt heads with people over time, it doesn't mean they're all the same person. Your mistake, as above, has been that where you wish to silence, you wheel out stories about how they're this person, that person, have tried to shut down the site. Where people are banned due to your fantasies for simply opposing your views and their impact that may not mean much to them. I'm not 'Gussett' who clearly went too far both here and BBS for no good reason. Nor have I ever complained about this site to advertisers or any individual on it anywhere. My attitude towards you is entirely of your own creation. If you do want to imply that I have done any of the above it's fundamentally an lie and would be remarkably easy to prove so if it came to that. Worry about your own conduct and disengenous portrayal of your views here rather than mine.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 29 Mar 23 8.16am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You are pathetic. It's really quite sad to see someone so fixated on trying to find fault with what someone else's posts on a football forum. Who cares? I certainly don't. The only positive I can see is if you are wasting your time bothering with such trifling things at least you aren't actually causing real harm elsewhere.

The explanation is there, in my posts, for anyone with the eyes to see and a broad enough mind to realise that I was generalising in my initial post and being more specific in my second.

Only the deliberately pedantic would seek to make some kind of issue out of it. Exactly the same could be done to many posts here, yours included. Nobody else does. Pathetic.

Own your hypocrisy and self denial, which I know is something of an oxymoron.

Carry on.

Edited by HKOwen (29 Mar 2023 8.47am)

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 29 Mar 23 8.42am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

Well, that's my point. The word is no longer confined to actual fascist groups, it is used as a general term of abuse, often to people merely expressing common sense views.

Or doing their job in the case of traffic wardens.

 

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View georgenorman's Profile georgenorman Flag 29 Mar 23 8.57am Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by footythoughts

The idea that I'm far left or secretly have been shown to be part of some kind of far left organisation is an entirely false distraction from your own reality.

There is only one reason to jump on a post that criticises 'explicitably fascist groups and beliefs and those with time for them' or to think that is some way relates to you. The reason you have done so is that you do follow and have endorsed content of explicitably fascist groups. Your Copy n pasting across HOL compared to replies and likes elsewhere shows how watered down your posts here are.

Liking content calling race mixing 'disgusting', doing the same to tweets favouring Jim Crow laws and about being 'physically repulsed' by black people. Calling gays 'fags', saying gay parents 'make you feel sick', liking a post that churches with openly gay members represent the 'raped and murdered corpse of a church', endorsing ideas that women need to be 'controlled by white men'. Liking an article relating to threatening anti jewish flyers being shoved through letterboxes. Just scratching the surface. I don't call anyone radicalised on a whim, I say it when I feel it accurately reflects a person's politics and demographic views.

Repugnant beliefs don't exist in a vaccuum. Are you happy for black people you may know, to know you 'like' that some see them as repulsive? Mixed race couples that their child born out of race mixing is 'disgusting'? Are you happy for gay family members to hear that you think they're fags who make you feel sick? You should feel enough connection to those people that you don't behave this way, but of course that's exactly what radicalisation does to a person. On one level you know these views are horrendous to most - that's why we get the watered down versions, and inevitable 'misrepresented' 'lies' at the reality. All while those sharing mundane views get it in the neck from you for being normal. It's a pretty disgusting show of character that any person would be endorsing such views. One has to wonder what on earth has happened for you to reach such a place mentally.

You won't be getting a reply back, as this is as much an open hope that you will draw back from worrying extremes. In shining a light on this conduct I'm hoping that instead of trying to lie your way out of it, you consider how absolutely ludicrous and disgusting it is and somehow walk your way back to a place of decency. If you don't and you can't, God only knows where your current trajectory will end up taking you.

Edited by footythoughts (29 Mar 2023 8.24am)

So you are necessarily a Fascist if you don't particularly like some group of people or disagree with their views?

 

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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 29 Mar 23 9.14am Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

If you all have nothing to say on US politics, may I suggest that you all stop posting?

...Or find a more appropriate thread

... or take your personal vendettas into DM's

Thank you.


 


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