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Quote dannyh at 16 Sep 2015 3.04pm
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Quote Willo at 16 Sep 2015 1.29pm
It's a ploy by Corbyn to try and make PMQs more downbeat as he knows he would be ripped apart by Cameron in a "Yah boo" exchange.
Replace 'downbeat' with 'mature' I entirely agree with you.
Weak.
You watched it then d? The lack of childish goading was refreshing i thought but you must disagree.
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Willo  South coast - west of Brighton. 16 Sep 15 5.14pm |
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Quote leggedstruggle at 16 Sep 2015 5.04pm
I think you have to say that Corbyn came over far better today than Milliband ever did.
Corbyn never came back with anything after Cameron provided answers.It wasn't a "Yah Boo" cut and thrust session.
Let's get back to the "Punch and Judy" show instead of a bland question and answer session !
Cameron was lured into the "New Way" - he should ignore what Corbyn wants as it plays into Corbyn's hands.
Edited by Willo (16 Sep 2015 5.16pm)
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Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 16 Sep 2015 4.56pm
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Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 16 Sep 2015 2.35pm
I see some of the usual left wing chaps on here already in the denial stage.
Looking forward to anger and bargaining.
Corbyn can ask all he likes at question time but his face doesn't fit the 21st century. Sorry to be so cynical and broad stroke about it but that is the reality.
Doesn't matter really if his 'face fits' or not, or if people who'd never vote for him don't like him, the reason he is there is on the basis of a democratic mandate of the Labour party, by an approved process.
What disturbs me most are 'Labour Party Parliamentary members' who seem to think they're more important than the people who vote for them. It won't be Corbyn that sinks the party, it'll be members of the party throwing hissy fits because their own membership voted for someone they didn't want.
It'll like be the who 'Euro' schism of the Tory party that f**ked their own party in the 90s and early 21st century.
Nail on head.
However, I do actually believe that his face does matter. People who vote for personality and floating voters in general will not vote for this man. If Milliband was a liability for Labour then Corbyn will be like the Anti Christ.
I disagree. Miliband was pretty much a not to be taken seriously leader from the off and it got worse when the image conscious PR advisers got to him and failed miserably.
Corbyn operates on a different and higher, albeit more left wing, level. He will, i think, command a slightly begrudging respect from elements in all the parties and some of their voters. Something Ed was not able to achieve even from just within his own.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 16 Sep 15 5.22pm |
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Quote Willo at 16 Sep 2015 5.14pm
Quote leggedstruggle at 16 Sep 2015 5.04pm
I think you have to say that Corbyn came over far better today than Milliband ever did.
Corbyn never came back with anything after Cameron provided answers.It wasn't a "Yah Boo" cut and thrust session.
Let's get back to the "Punch and Judy" show instead of a bland question and answer session !
Cameron was lured into the "New Way" - he should ignore what Corbyn wants as it plays into Corbyn's hands.
Edited by Willo (16 Sep 2015 5.16pm)
Where have you been Willo these last few years? The political malaise is almost entirely down to the type of antics you promote. People were sick to death of it.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 16 Sep 15 5.27pm |
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Quote Kermit8 at 16 Sep 2015 5.22pm
Quote Willo at 16 Sep 2015 5.14pm
Quote leggedstruggle at 16 Sep 2015 5.04pm
I think you have to say that Corbyn came over far better today than Milliband ever did.
Corbyn never came back with anything after Cameron provided answers.It wasn't a "Yah Boo" cut and thrust session.
Let's get back to the "Punch and Judy" show instead of a bland question and answer session !
Cameron was lured into the "New Way" - he should ignore what Corbyn wants as it plays into Corbyn's hands.
Edited by Willo (16 Sep 2015 5.16pm)
Where have you been Willo these last few years? The political malaise is almost entirely down to the type of antics you promote. People were sick to death of it.
I really don't agree that cut and thrust sessions between political leaders is responsible for any political malaise.Think the issues are far more complex and run deeper than that.
Today's PMQs was bland and boring and the 'House' was as dead as a mortuary.Hopefully this won't last.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 16 Sep 15 5.31pm |
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Quote Willo at 16 Sep 2015 5.27pm
Quote Kermit8 at 16 Sep 2015 5.22pm
Quote Willo at 16 Sep 2015 5.14pm
Quote leggedstruggle at 16 Sep 2015 5.04pm
I think you have to say that Corbyn came over far better today than Milliband ever did.
Corbyn never came back with anything after Cameron provided answers.It wasn't a "Yah Boo" cut and thrust session.
Let's get back to the "Punch and Judy" show instead of a bland question and answer session !
Cameron was lured into the "New Way" - he should ignore what Corbyn wants as it plays into Corbyn's hands.
Edited by Willo (16 Sep 2015 5.16pm)
Where have you been Willo these last few years? The political malaise is almost entirely down to the type of antics you promote. People were sick to death of it.
I really don't agree that cut and thrust sessions between political leaders is responsible for any political malaise.Think the issues are far more complex and run deeper than that.
Today's PMQs was bland and boring and the 'House' was as dead as a mortuary.Hopefully this won't last.
You see it as 'cut and thrust' as if some great intellectual challenge was apparent but those days are long gone. 'Playground verbals' would be more apt. At least since the nineties and the dawn of over the top spin and image conscious politicians.
Big chest and massive boobs
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| Hoof Hearted 16 Sep 15 5.35pm |
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Quote leggedstruggle at 16 Sep 2015 5.04pm
I think you have to say that Corbyn came over far better today than Milliband ever did.
So..... just the successful negotiation of eating a bacon sandwich in public without looking like Marty Feldman's come face and Corbyn could be PM?
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pefwin  Where you have to have an English ... 16 Sep 15 5.38pm |
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Quote Hoof Hearted at 16 Sep 2015 5.35pm
Quote leggedstruggle at 16 Sep 2015 5.04pm
I think you have to say that Corbyn came over far better today than Milliband ever did.
So..... just the successful negotiation of eating a bacon sandwich in public without looking like Marty Feldman's come face and Corbyn could be PM?
Nobody ever mentions it but was it cause he is a Jew? Then that meant he could never be PM anyway - edit I think may just be Catholics.
Edited by pefwin (16 Sep 2015 5.44pm)
"Everything is air-droppable at least once."
"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 16 Sep 15 5.43pm |
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Quote Kermit8 at 16 Sep 2015 5.31pm
Quote Willo at 16 Sep 2015 5.27pm
Quote Kermit8 at 16 Sep 2015 5.22pm
Quote Willo at 16 Sep 2015 5.14pm
Quote leggedstruggle at 16 Sep 2015 5.04pm
I think you have to say that Corbyn came over far better today than Milliband ever did.
Corbyn never came back with anything after Cameron provided answers.It wasn't a "Yah Boo" cut and thrust session.
Let's get back to the "Punch and Judy" show instead of a bland question and answer session !
Cameron was lured into the "New Way" - he should ignore what Corbyn wants as it plays into Corbyn's hands.
Edited by Willo (16 Sep 2015 5.16pm)
Where have you been Willo these last few years? The political malaise is almost entirely down to the type of antics you promote. People were sick to death of it.
I really don't agree that cut and thrust sessions between political leaders is responsible for any political malaise.Think the issues are far more complex and run deeper than that.
Today's PMQs was bland and boring and the 'House' was as dead as a mortuary.Hopefully this won't last.
You see it as 'cut and thrust' as if some great intellectual challenge was apparent but those days are long gone. 'Playground verbals' would be more apt. At least since the nineties and the dawn of over the top spin and image conscious politicians.
I like to see Prime Minister's challenged on their answers and this brings about a "Cut and thrust". All Corbyn did was ask questions and meekly accept what Cameron had to say.He came back with nothing.It was the interaction between the party leaders which really made PMQs. It was not what you call "Playground verbals" but lively debate.
Maybe PMQ's should be a list of questions given to the PM on a sheet of paper and he runs down them providing answers !!!! Or maybe he should sit in a "Mastermind" chair and a quiz master appointed to ask questions !
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| Kermit8 Hevon 16 Sep 15 5.52pm |
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Quote Willo at 16 Sep 2015 5.43pm
Quote Kermit8 at 16 Sep 2015 5.31pm
Quote Willo at 16 Sep 2015 5.27pm
Quote Kermit8 at 16 Sep 2015 5.22pm
Quote Willo at 16 Sep 2015 5.14pm
Quote leggedstruggle at 16 Sep 2015 5.04pm
I think you have to say that Corbyn came over far better today than Milliband ever did.
Corbyn never came back with anything after Cameron provided answers.It wasn't a "Yah Boo" cut and thrust session.
Let's get back to the "Punch and Judy" show instead of a bland question and answer session !
Cameron was lured into the "New Way" - he should ignore what Corbyn wants as it plays into Corbyn's hands.
Edited by Willo (16 Sep 2015 5.16pm)
Where have you been Willo these last few years? The political malaise is almost entirely down to the type of antics you promote. People were sick to death of it.
I really don't agree that cut and thrust sessions between political leaders is responsible for any political malaise.Think the issues are far more complex and run deeper than that.
Today's PMQs was bland and boring and the 'House' was as dead as a mortuary.Hopefully this won't last.
You see it as 'cut and thrust' as if some great intellectual challenge was apparent but those days are long gone. 'Playground verbals' would be more apt. At least since the nineties and the dawn of over the top spin and image conscious politicians.
I like to see Prime Minister's challenged on their answers and this brings about a "Cut and thrust". All Corbyn did was ask questions and meekly accept what Cameron had to say.He came back with nothing.It was the interaction between the party leaders which really made PMQs. It was not what you call "Playground verbals" but lively debate.
Maybe PMQ's should be a list of questions given to the PM on a sheet of paper and he runs down them providing answers !!!! Or maybe he should sit in a "Mastermind" chair and a quiz master appointed to ask questions !
oh yeah I see what you mean....Blair v Duncan Smith, Brown v Cameron, Milliband v Cameron, Blair v Hague, Blaizzzzzzzzzzz
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 16 Sep 15 5.55pm |
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Quote Willo at 16 Sep 2015 5.43pm
Quote Kermit8 at 16 Sep 2015 5.31pm
Quote Willo at 16 Sep 2015 5.27pm
Quote Kermit8 at 16 Sep 2015 5.22pm
Quote Willo at 16 Sep 2015 5.14pm
Quote leggedstruggle at 16 Sep 2015 5.04pm
I think you have to say that Corbyn came over far better today than Milliband ever did.
Corbyn never came back with anything after Cameron provided answers.It wasn't a "Yah Boo" cut and thrust session.
Let's get back to the "Punch and Judy" show instead of a bland question and answer session !
Cameron was lured into the "New Way" - he should ignore what Corbyn wants as it plays into Corbyn's hands.
Edited by Willo (16 Sep 2015 5.16pm)
Where have you been Willo these last few years? The political malaise is almost entirely down to the type of antics you promote. People were sick to death of it.
I really don't agree that cut and thrust sessions between political leaders is responsible for any political malaise.Think the issues are far more complex and run deeper than that.
Today's PMQs was bland and boring and the 'House' was as dead as a mortuary.Hopefully this won't last.
You see it as 'cut and thrust' as if some great intellectual challenge was apparent but those days are long gone. 'Playground verbals' would be more apt. At least since the nineties and the dawn of over the top spin and image conscious politicians.
I like to see Prime Minister's challenged on their answers and this brings about a "Cut and thrust". All Corbyn did was ask questions and meekly accept what Cameron had to say.He came back with nothing.It was the interaction between the party leaders which really made PMQs. It was not what you call "Playground verbals" but lively debate.
Maybe PMQ's should be a list of questions given to the PM on a sheet of paper and he runs down them providing answers !!!! Or maybe he should sit in a "Mastermind" chair and a quiz master appointed to ask questions !
Totally agree that the lack of follow up questions meant DC had a reasonably easy time. PMQ should be a time for really challenging the PM.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 16 Sep 15 5.57pm |
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Quote Kermit8 at 16 Sep 2015 5.52pm
Quote Willo at 16 Sep 2015 5.43pm
Quote Kermit8 at 16 Sep 2015 5.31pm
Quote Willo at 16 Sep 2015 5.27pm
Quote Kermit8 at 16 Sep 2015 5.22pm
Quote Willo at 16 Sep 2015 5.14pm
Quote leggedstruggle at 16 Sep 2015 5.04pm
I think you have to say that Corbyn came over far better today than Milliband ever did.
Corbyn never came back with anything after Cameron provided answers.It wasn't a "Yah Boo" cut and thrust session.
Let's get back to the "Punch and Judy" show instead of a bland question and answer session !
Cameron was lured into the "New Way" - he should ignore what Corbyn wants as it plays into Corbyn's hands.
Edited by Willo (16 Sep 2015 5.16pm)
Where have you been Willo these last few years? The political malaise is almost entirely down to the type of antics you promote. People were sick to death of it.
I really don't agree that cut and thrust sessions between political leaders is responsible for any political malaise.Think the issues are far more complex and run deeper than that.
Today's PMQs was bland and boring and the 'House' was as dead as a mortuary.Hopefully this won't last.
You see it as 'cut and thrust' as if some great intellectual challenge was apparent but those days are long gone. 'Playground verbals' would be more apt. At least since the nineties and the dawn of over the top spin and image conscious politicians.
I like to see Prime Minister's challenged on their answers and this brings about a "Cut and thrust". All Corbyn did was ask questions and meekly accept what Cameron had to say.He came back with nothing.It was the interaction between the party leaders which really made PMQs. It was not what you call "Playground verbals" but lively debate.
Maybe PMQ's should be a list of questions given to the PM on a sheet of paper and he runs down them providing answers !!!! Or maybe he should sit in a "Mastermind" chair and a quiz master appointed to ask questions !
oh yeah I see what you mean....Blair v Duncan Smith, Brown v Cameron, Milliband v Cameron, Blair v Hague, Blaizzzzzzzzzzz
Far better than what we witnessed today.
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Quote pefwin at 16 Sep 2015 5.38pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 16 Sep 2015 5.35pm
Quote leggedstruggle at 16 Sep 2015 5.04pm
I think you have to say that Corbyn came over far better today than Milliband ever did.
So..... just the successful negotiation of eating a bacon sandwich in public without looking like Marty Feldman's come face and Corbyn could be PM?
Nobody ever mentions it but was it cause he is a Jew? Then that meant he could never be PM anyway - edit I think may just be Catholics.
Edited by pefwin (16 Sep 2015 5.44pm)
I wonder what D'isreali would think. The Barr on Roman Catholics is not quite what people think - more that alliegence had to be given to the monarch and they had to be recognised as head of the church in an oath - can't imagine many people caring about that sort of thing these days but perhaps was a more pressing issue when France and Spain were our enemies.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 16 Sep 15 5.58pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 16 Sep 2015 5.55pm
Quote Willo at 16 Sep 2015 5.43pm
Quote Kermit8 at 16 Sep 2015 5.31pm
Quote Willo at 16 Sep 2015 5.27pm
Quote Kermit8 at 16 Sep 2015 5.22pm
Quote Willo at 16 Sep 2015 5.14pm
Quote leggedstruggle at 16 Sep 2015 5.04pm
I think you have to say that Corbyn came over far better today than Milliband ever did.
Corbyn never came back with anything after Cameron provided answers.It wasn't a "Yah Boo" cut and thrust session.
Let's get back to the "Punch and Judy" show instead of a bland question and answer session !
Cameron was lured into the "New Way" - he should ignore what Corbyn wants as it plays into Corbyn's hands.
Edited by Willo (16 Sep 2015 5.16pm)
Where have you been Willo these last few years? The political malaise is almost entirely down to the type of antics you promote. People were sick to death of it.
I really don't agree that cut and thrust sessions between political leaders is responsible for any political malaise.Think the issues are far more complex and run deeper than that.
Today's PMQs was bland and boring and the 'House' was as dead as a mortuary.Hopefully this won't last.
You see it as 'cut and thrust' as if some great intellectual challenge was apparent but those days are long gone. 'Playground verbals' would be more apt. At least since the nineties and the dawn of over the top spin and image conscious politicians.
I like to see Prime Minister's challenged on their answers and this brings about a "Cut and thrust". All Corbyn did was ask questions and meekly accept what Cameron had to say.He came back with nothing.It was the interaction between the party leaders which really made PMQs. It was not what you call "Playground verbals" but lively debate.
Maybe PMQ's should be a list of questions given to the PM on a sheet of paper and he runs down them providing answers !!!! Or maybe he should sit in a "Mastermind" chair and a quiz master appointed to ask questions !
Totally agree that the lack of follow up questions meant DC had a reasonably easy time. PMQ should be a time for really challenging the PM.
He will, he will. This was only his debut. What he won't do is immature point scoring and spin which has been the to the detriment of what PMQs should be about in recent times. That panto is over. Thank Christ.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 16 Sep 15 6.00pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 16 Sep 2015 5.55pm
Quote Willo at 16 Sep 2015 5.43pm
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Quote Willo at 16 Sep 2015 5.27pm
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Quote Willo at 16 Sep 2015 5.14pm
Quote leggedstruggle at 16 Sep 2015 5.04pm
I think you have to say that Corbyn came over far better today than Milliband ever did.
Corbyn never came back with anything after Cameron provided answers.It wasn't a "Yah Boo" cut and thrust session.
Let's get back to the "Punch and Judy" show instead of a bland question and answer session !
Cameron was lured into the "New Way" - he should ignore what Corbyn wants as it plays into Corbyn's hands.
Edited by Willo (16 Sep 2015 5.16pm)
Where have you been Willo these last few years? The political malaise is almost entirely down to the type of antics you promote. People were sick to death of it.
I really don't agree that cut and thrust sessions between political leaders is responsible for any political malaise.Think the issues are far more complex and run deeper than that.
Today's PMQs was bland and boring and the 'House' was as dead as a mortuary.Hopefully this won't last.
You see it as 'cut and thrust' as if some great intellectual challenge was apparent but those days are long gone. 'Playground verbals' would be more apt. At least since the nineties and the dawn of over the top spin and image conscious politicians.
I like to see Prime Minister's challenged on their answers and this brings about a "Cut and thrust". All Corbyn did was ask questions and meekly accept what Cameron had to say.He came back with nothing.It was the interaction between the party leaders which really made PMQs. It was not what you call "Playground verbals" but lively debate.
Maybe PMQ's should be a list of questions given to the PM on a sheet of paper and he runs down them providing answers !!!! Or maybe he should sit in a "Mastermind" chair and a quiz master appointed to ask questions !
Totally agree that the lack of follow up questions meant DC had a reasonably easy time. PMQ should be a time for really challenging the PM.
Yes I totally agree.
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Quote ASCPFC at 16 Sep 2015 5.57pm
Quote pefwin at 16 Sep 2015 5.38pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 16 Sep 2015 5.35pm
Quote leggedstruggle at 16 Sep 2015 5.04pm
I think you have to say that Corbyn came over far better today than Milliband ever did.
So..... just the successful negotiation of eating a bacon sandwich in public without looking like Marty Feldman's come face and Corbyn could be PM?
Nobody ever mentions it but was it cause he is a Jew? Then that meant he could never be PM anyway - edit I think may just be Catholics.
Edited by pefwin (16 Sep 2015 5.44pm)
I wonder what D'isreali would think. The Barr on Roman Catholics is not quite what people think - more that alliegence had to be given to the monarch and they had to be recognised as head of the church in an oath - can't imagine many people caring about that sort of thing these days but perhaps was a more pressing issue when France and Spain were our enemies.
Disreali was an Anglican and baptised at 12.
Not me but I think there are plenty in the UK how still care about the difference between Protestants and Papists. Personally they all worship a fantasy just with minor differences.
"Everything is air-droppable at least once."
"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 16 Sep 15 6.14pm |
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At the end of the day Corbyn engaged in defensive politics, was totally unambitious and played for a draw. If this continues it will be less relevant to public opinion as less people will watch it.
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Quote leggedstruggle at 16 Sep 2015 5.04pm
I think you have to say that Corbyn came over far better today than Milliband ever did.
Corbyn never came back with anything after Cameron provided answers.It wasn't a "Yah Boo" cut and thrust session.
Let's get back to the "Punch and Judy" show instead of a bland question and answer session !
Cameron was lured into the "New Way" - he should ignore what Corbyn wants as it plays into Corbyn's hands.
Edited by Willo (16 Sep 2015 5.16pm)
Where have you been Willo these last few years? The political malaise is almost entirely down to the type of antics you promote. People were sick to death of it.
I really don't agree that cut and thrust sessions between political leaders is responsible for any political malaise.Think the issues are far more complex and run deeper than that.
Today's PMQs was bland and boring and the 'House' was as dead as a mortuary.Hopefully this won't last.
You see it as 'cut and thrust' as if some great intellectual challenge was apparent but those days are long gone. 'Playground verbals' would be more apt. At least since the nineties and the dawn of over the top spin and image conscious politicians.
I like to see Prime Minister's challenged on their answers and this brings about a "Cut and thrust". All Corbyn did was ask questions and meekly accept what Cameron had to say.He came back with nothing.It was the interaction between the party leaders which really made PMQs. It was not what you call "Playground verbals" but lively debate.
Maybe PMQ's should be a list of questions given to the PM on a sheet of paper and he runs down them providing answers !!!! Or maybe he should sit in a "Mastermind" chair and a quiz master appointed to ask questions !
oh yeah I see what you mean....Blair v Duncan Smith, Brown v Cameron, Milliband v Cameron, Blair v Hague, Blaizzzzzzzzzzz
Far better than what we witnessed today.
I kinda figured, what with you being such an avid campaigner and all that, you'd welcome the views of the electorate being aired. Wrong colour perhaps?
Personally i enjoyed it. It was a big breath of fresh air.
Time to move forward together.
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Cameron's point scoring and constant emphasis on the economy may become a little tiring and the Tories may have to rethink their leadership soon enough. May make Corbyn seem like a political genius and genuine reformer whilst revealing the Tories as the 'crab people' they really are.
Red and Blue Army!
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 16 Sep 15 6.28pm |
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Quote -TUX- at 16 Sep 2015 6.17pm
I kinda figured, what with you being such an avid campaigner and all that, you'd welcome the views of the electorate being aired.
I've not complained about the views of the electorate being aired.But 6 questions hardly reflect the public mood !
I would far rather Paxman ask the PM and really 'grill' him on his answers.Not "Comrade Corbyn" with his form of extreme socialism who just asks questions and never "drills down" into the reply.All very bland and soporific.
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