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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 03 Oct 21 6.11am

Originally posted by cryrst

Very decent of you CP. Is it a sort that lives there alone

To be fair, one was, but one not mate.

 

chris123 Flag hove actually 03 Oct 21 8.08am

Originally posted by croydon proud

Funny that in Germany, lots of people rent all their life, they look on a house as a place to live, not as a pension pot, thats why they are always on holiday, spending the spoils instead of at home counting the pot!

Inheritance tax?

 

Mapletree Flag Croydon 03 Oct 21 8.58am

Originally posted by chris123

Inheritance tax?

Up to 50% depending upon the relationship to the deceased.

Edited by Mapletree (03 Oct 2021 8.58am)

 

croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 03 Oct 21 6.33pm

Originally posted by chris123

Inheritance tax?

I"m guessing there won"t be much inheritance tax the way they take holidays mate, fair play to them.

 

HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 04 Oct 21 2.35am

Charge stamp duty on every sale and purchase
and stop people using offshore companies to avoid stamp duty , e.g the Blairs.

Charge a punitive stamp duty on non British purchasers and have a proper checking mechanism . There are many countries where foreigners are not allowed to buy houses, we should at least be reciprocal.

These proposals would both generate tax income and help to cool down the rental market at all levels.

The problem is finding an equitable method that doesn't tax the same earnings multiple times as inheritance tax does.

 


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YT Flag Oxford 04 Oct 21 7.36am

Originally posted by HKOwen

Charge stamp duty on every sale and purchase
and stop people using offshore companies to avoid stamp duty , e.g the Blairs.

Charge a punitive stamp duty on non British purchasers and have a proper checking mechanism . There are many countries where foreigners are not allowed to buy houses, we should at least be reciprocal.

These proposals would both generate tax income and help to cool down the rental market at all levels.

The problem is finding an equitable method that doesn't tax the same earnings multiple times as inheritance tax does.

How much tax, do you reckon? After the cost of implementing and enforcing them.

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 04 Oct 21 9.25am

Originally posted by HKOwen

Charge stamp duty on every sale and purchase
and stop people using offshore companies to avoid stamp duty , e.g the Blairs.

Charge a punitive stamp duty on non British purchasers and have a proper checking mechanism . There are many countries where foreigners are not allowed to buy houses, we should at least be reciprocal.

These proposals would both generate tax income and help to cool down the rental market at all levels.

The problem is finding an equitable method that doesn't tax the same earnings multiple times as inheritance tax does.

Agreed. Many EU countries have restrictions on non residents buying property. As these Pandora papers have revealed yet again I see no valid reason why offshore corporation / shell companies should be allowed to function in the UK.

We have no idea who owns what in the UK e.g. our own football club. There must be millions of UK acres where the ultimate owner is shrouded in mystery, why? unless they are dodging taxes.

In Norway tax records are available to the public so you know what your neighbour pays and vice versa.

Trouble is that the people who can reform this are the very people abusing the system so it aint going happen.

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 04 Oct 21 9.46am

Originally posted by Badger11

Agreed. Many EU countries have restrictions on non residents buying property. As these Pandora papers have revealed yet again I see no valid reason why offshore corporation / shell companies should be allowed to function in the UK.

We have no idea who owns what in the UK e.g. our own football club. There must be millions of UK acres where the ultimate owner is shrouded in mystery, why? unless they are dodging taxes.

In Norway tax records are available to the public so you know what your neighbour pays and vice versa.

Trouble is that the people who can reform this are the very people abusing the system so it aint going happen.

The issue is its the foreigners who generally buy the high end places in big cities. Costing multi millions to build and most are bought off plan. I doubt many UK millionaires would be overly interested so stopping foreigners buying them would slaughter the market. I'm sure there is a great deal of tax made for hmg on these purchases. I said before that there can't be many foreigners buying 3 bed semis; I would guess that's brits buying to rent. Maybe if a cap on value to a foreigners buying of say 1m will keep family homes owned by brits but not many. The crack down needs to be on buy to rent as hmg have done but it still doesn't mean rental is any cheaper. Anyone could also set up as a business to buy more so really difficult to deal with tbh.

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 04 Oct 21 9.54am

Originally posted by cryrst

The issue is its the foreigners who generally buy the high end places in big cities. Costing multi millions to build and most are bought off plan. I doubt many UK millionaires would be overly interested so stopping foreigners buying them would slaughter the market. I'm sure there is a great deal of tax made for hmg on these purchases. I said before that there can't be many foreigners buying 3 bed semis; I would guess that's brits buying to rent. Maybe if a cap on value to a foreigners buying of say 1m will keep family homes owned by brits but not many. The crack down needs to be on buy to rent as hmg have done but it still doesn't mean rental is any cheaper. Anyone could also set up as a business to buy more so really difficult to deal with tbh.

The Chinese bought Earls Court off plan if that had been banned perhaps affordable housing could have been built instead.

Personally I don't think homes should be an investment if you make money on your 3 bed that you live in good luck but we need to stop these consortiums or at the very least tax the hell out of them. In Lewisham there are loads of new flats bought and empty because the locals can't afford the rent.

Edited by Badger11 (04 Oct 2021 9.54am)

 


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jeeagles Flag 04 Oct 21 10.56am

Originally posted by cryrst

The issue is its the foreigners who generally buy the high end places in big cities. Costing multi millions to build and most are bought off plan. I doubt many UK millionaires would be overly interested so stopping foreigners buying them would slaughter the market. I'm sure there is a great deal of tax made for hmg on these purchases. I said before that there can't be many foreigners buying 3 bed semis; I would guess that's brits buying to rent. Maybe if a cap on value to a foreigners buying of say 1m will keep family homes owned by brits but not many. The crack down needs to be on buy to rent as hmg have done but it still doesn't mean rental is any cheaper. Anyone could also set up as a business to buy more so really difficult to deal with tbh.

Not sure that the flats on Hyde Park Corner etc. are the concern of the average house buyer.

In terms of B2L, it's now a lot harder than it used to be. There's a 2% surcharge on Stamp Duty whilst other allowances have been cut (all under a Tory government). It's also more difficult to get a B2L mortgage when living abroad, and far more difficult to manage. I'd agree that this isn't an area where foreign investors have an interest.

The Battersea development is Chinese owned, the issue with that development is that you need someone with the capital to fund the scheme. It's possibly a much bigger risk than the investors bargained for as I hear a lot of the flats are being sold cut price.

The Wembley Park development is UK/Canadian owned Chinese investors aren't buying up everything. The entire site will be rented apparently.

A lot of commercial space seems to be owned by off-shore companies. Once you trace the money, I wouldn't be surprised to find that the shell companies are part of pension funds who've invested in safe markets to fund your retirement. Some caution is required.

 

cryrst Flag The garden of England 04 Oct 21 1.53pm

Originally posted by jeeagles

Not sure that the flats on Hyde Park Corner etc. are the concern of the average house buyer.

In terms of B2L, it's now a lot harder than it used to be. There's a 2% surcharge on Stamp Duty whilst other allowances have been cut (all under a Tory government). It's also more difficult to get a B2L mortgage when living abroad, and far more difficult to manage. I'd agree that this isn't an area where foreign investors have an interest.

The Battersea development is Chinese owned, the issue with that development is that you need someone with the capital to fund the scheme. It's possibly a much bigger risk than the investors bargained for as I hear a lot of the flats are being sold cut price.

The Wembley Park development is UK/Canadian owned Chinese investors aren't buying up everything. The entire site will be rented apparently.

A lot of commercial space seems to be owned by off-shore companies. Once you trace the money, I wouldn't be surprised to find that the shell companies are part of pension funds who've invested in safe markets to fund your retirement. Some caution is required.

Yup and explains my comments a bit. If you do this to foreign investors you somewhat kill the goose that lays the golden egg.
Many millions and I bet plenty are tax from these sales. All that will happen is that they will sit empty or councils will try to buy them and rent them at such a low price that it's only the people on the gravy train who will benefit, hypothetically I mean. Then council tax rises and extra congestion and environmental taxes will be implemented to cover losses. A vicious circle.

 

The Dolphin Flag 05 Oct 21 7.27am

Little reported by the media from his speech last week - "my Father was a toolmaker - very much like Boris's Father"
A crass comment made in the same week that Mrs Johnson was buried shows how pathetic One Knee really is!
That and the racist scum comments from his colleague really shows what Labour stands for now.
Disgraceful words from supposedly educated people.

 

HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 05 Oct 21 8.03am

Yes, although Rayner does not fall in to the educated category

Originally posted by The Dolphin

Little reported by the media from his speech last week - "my Father was a toolmaker - very much like Boris's Father"
A crass comment made in the same week that Mrs Johnson was buried shows how pathetic One Knee really is!
That and the racist scum comments from his colleague really shows what Labour stands for now.
Disgraceful words from supposedly educated people.

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 29 Nov 21 4.19pm

You would think anyone could inflict a blow on this government.

Look at the state of the country.

Yet, once more Sir Keir is using his time to reshuffle his pack of bland mild conservatives.

His decision to whip his party in support of the catastrophic brexit deal a mockery of democratic accountability from an opposition.

Now he can't say a word against it, genuine socialists prefer not to work with him, some actually refusing and joining the back benches.

What of Corbyns promise to end the water privatisation, no he supports the country walking in sewage.

Draconian new laws he sees as mild increases in sentencing.

Not laid a glove on the worst PM we have ever had.

Grrrrr...

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 29 Nov 21 4.29pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

You would think anyone could inflict a blow on this government.

Look at the state of the country.

Yet, once more Sir Keir is using his time to reshuffle his pack of bland mild conservatives.

His decision to whip his party in support of the catastrophic brexit deal a mockery of democratic accountability from an opposition.

Now he can't say a word against it, genuine socialists prefer not to work with him, some actually refusing and joining the back benches.

What of Corbyns promise to end the water privatisation, no he supports the country walking in sewage.

Draconian new laws he sees as mild increases in sentencing.

Not laid a glove on the worst PM we have ever had.

Grrrrr...

Hmmm deckchairs and Titanic spring to mind.

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 29 Nov 21 5.17pm

That cabinet re-shuffle in full.

"Dull man replaces dull people with more dull people no one has heard of".

 


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