I think the loss of jobs associated with EU trade is misleading. There will be no major change (in my opinion) to trade levels, the EU will not be about to cut off its nose to spite its face by severing trade deals with the UK. Don't forget we run a pretty huge trade deficit with the EU.

Prepare for 3 months of ridiculous claims and counter claims from both sides with a very tenuous link to reality.

Before Cameron said he was going to get a great new deal, I was in the IN camp, since he's come back with diddly squat, I'm now back on the fence. Nice job Dave.

I haven't heard much else Taffy and the bit where we now sell in Kilos and not Pounds.

There must be more to why people want out ? I'm trying to find out why they want out,apart from the immigration problem.

To me it comes down mainly to a cost / benefit analysis between the costs of staying in against the benefits provided by membership.

I'm hoping both sides will come clean on that at some point instead of :

OUT: the EU won't trade with us (bull)
IN: They decide how bendy our bananas can be (also bull)

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Quite right,Hoof.You clearly chose the way you'll vote once you knew where someone of high calibre you particularly respect (no pun intended),George Galloway,was placing his support

Actually, I do have more respect for Galloway than any of those I listed.

He did found the Respect Party after all.

I also respect Farage - he is single minded in his campaign to limit immigration and reclaim our sovereignty.

The likes of those I listed are self serving career politicians who want the Status Quo to continue as it suits there own private agendas and not that of the UK.

Michael, are you actually going to provide any evidence to back up your passive aggressive ramblings or are they just futile attempts at scaremongering?

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

Yes but when we entered the EU back in 1973 we had the 3rd largest economy in the world!

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

Kermy - there is no evidence to suggest being part of the EU has led to our economy being 5th largest either.

As I said (and await your reply Sir) where would our economy be now if we had adopted the Euro?

All the scaremongering for that debate is being dragged up again for this referendum - "we'll be in the slow lane, no one will trade with us, we'll be out on a limb, etc etc.

Lets stick to what we know and debate that.

My opinion is that the economy will benefit in some ways by leaving and lose on others. Nothing significantly detrimental will occur as with sticking with the pound demonstrated to those scaremongering.

This debate is more about the kind of life we will all have in the next 50 years if we vote to stay in the EU and how our infrastructure can cope with millions more living here I think.

Looking for any kind of moral superiority is not my intention at all. Just friggin' fed up of biased press (many run by tax-avoiding Press barons) and lack of other perspective. I guess that the reality is that we have all had different experiences of migrant integration just as they have had from us within their countries (heck...we've even bombed some of them - make of that what you will!)