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 corkery  Cork City 22 Jun 17 7.01pm |
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Refugees? What's wrong with the 40 countries between Eritrea and the UK? They go to the UK as it's the only European country without ID cards.
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Kermit8  Hevon 22 Jun 17 7.27pm |
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Originally posted by corkery
Refugees? What's wrong with the 40 countries between Eritrea and the UK? They go to the UK as it's the only European country without ID cards. Bloody good post. Well it could have been. If only 98% of Eritrean refugees aimed for the UK rather than the 2% it actually is. We need to keep an eye on the 2% though. Edited by Kermit8 (22 Jun 2017 7.28pm)
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 Hrolf The Ganger  22 Jun 17 7.33pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Bloody good post. Well it could have been. If only 98% of Eritrean refugees aimed for the UK rather than the 2% it actually is. We need to keep an eye on the 2% though. Edited by Kermit8 (22 Jun 2017 7.28pm) Again with the 2%. How many people is that?
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| Kermit8 Hevon 22 Jun 17 7.42pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Again with the 2%. How many people is that?
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| Hrolf The Ganger 22 Jun 17 7.45pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Very good. How many people leave Eritrea every year?
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| corkery Cork City 22 Jun 17 11.12pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Again with the 2%. How many people is that? Does it matter? You can't just go picking and choosing a 'safe country.' Edited by corkery (22 Jun 2017 11.13pm)
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DutchEagleJohan  Vlissingen, Netherlands 23 Jun 17 2.43am |
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I do think you can safely call Hrolf the far far far far right......Up to him, I would probably struggle to get a visa to watch Palace play after Brexit, never mind my daughter who is half/half and has two passports one of which is British..... Originally posted by topcat
Someone had died and the far right on the HoL are using it for political point scoring. Isn't this exactly what they were accusing nickgusset of on other threads?
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| Stirlingsays 23 Jun 17 4.21am |
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Originally posted by DutchEagleJohan
I do think you can safely call Hrolf the far far far far right......Up to him, I would probably struggle to get a visa to watch Palace play after Brexit, never mind my daughter who is half/half and has two passports one of which is British..... Far right? Not believing in dual citizenship isn't 'far right'. I don't agree with it either. It devalues nationality in my book a person should be made to chose or have the choice made for them. Several countries won't have it, Japan doesn't and it isn't 'far right'.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 23 Jun 17 9.00am |
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Originally posted by DutchEagleJohan
I do think you can safely call Hrolf the far far far far right......Up to him, I would probably struggle to get a visa to watch Palace play after Brexit, never mind my daughter who is half/half and has two passports one of which is British..... That's a lot of Fars. It's also a lot of bollocks.
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| DutchEagleJohan Vlissingen, Netherlands 23 Jun 17 10.13am |
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It surely is denying the world has changed and has become a small place. Many international relationships produce dual nationality children. Why should they have made a choice for them? Apart from the fact that some counties, or regimes you may say, do not allow people to give up their nationality...... And whatever is far or not on the left-right scale is in the eye of the beholder of course..... Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Far right? Not believing in dual citizenship isn't 'far right'. I don't agree with it either. It devalues nationality in my book a person should be made to chose or have the choice made for them. Several countries won't have it, Japan doesn't and it isn't 'far right'.
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| Stirlingsays 23 Jun 17 12.35pm |
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Originally posted by DutchEagleJohan
It surely is denying the world has changed and has become a small place. Many international relationships produce dual nationality children. Why should they have made a choice for them? Apart from the fact that some counties, or regimes you may say, do not allow people to give up their nationality...... And whatever is far or not on the left-right scale is in the eye of the beholder of course..... Why should your children have more rights than my children by accident of birth? That's one point. The second point is that nations have a right to determine who is a citizen/subject. It isn't an entitlement...Well, their laws decide where the balance lies there.....though obviously where you were born gives you a very strong claim. I'm against the idea of dual citizenship in all but extreme or sympathetic circumstances. For you to say that being against dual citizenship means that you are far right is plainly ridiculous and hyperbolic. Everything is of course in the eye of the beholder but in my view, if that's your eye then it clearly needs a trip to the opticians. Far right indeed.
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| Username Horsham 23 Jun 17 12.48pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Why should your children have more rights than my children by accident of birth? That's one point. Using that same logic, why should child refugees and young people across the third world be condemned to a life of poverty and hardship because of 'an accident of birth'.
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