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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 18 Nov 19 11.34am

Originally posted by chris123

There was no other job for him.

True he is rudderless but he could have done what the Scandinavian Royals do, get a proper job and not leach off the taxpayers.

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 18 Nov 19 11.35am

Originally posted by steeleye20

The Queen apparently approved this interview.

And there is the source of Andrews problems since his navy service.

At least he got away from them for a few weeks.


Yeah but I bet she didn't approve of the manner he handled it though.

 


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TomThePalaceFanatic Flag 19 Nov 19 6.39pm

He comes across as an extremely unintelligent man, at best.

At worst, it could easily be worse than he’s being accused of.

Would be very interesting to know how entrenched Epstein actually was in the elite, but it’s unlikely we ever will. I suspect Andrew is just one of many.

 

PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 20 Nov 19 1.46am

Prince Andrew and Manchester United.


...it all fell apart after the departure of Fergie.

 


Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

Alex1991 Flag Ashford 20 Nov 19 4.23am

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Prince Andrew and Manchester United.


...it all fell apart after the departure of Fergie.

The Black Eyed Peas as well.

 


"Brighton are talking about how they're coming for us. And it's like, we've been waiting in the Premier League for you for ages." Wilfried Zaha, 2017.

Painter Flag Croydon 21 Nov 19 1.50pm

Originally posted by TomThePalaceFanatic

He comes across as an extremely unintelligent man, at best.

At worst, it could easily be worse than he’s being accused of.

Would be very interesting to know how entrenched Epstein actually was in the elite, but it’s unlikely we ever will. I suspect Andrew is just one of many.

The Royal families of the world have been in breeding for years, until recently. Andrew is just a result of the genetic fallout.

Epstein was a pimp for the rich and powerful, whether anymore will be exposed is too be seen. They are far more intelligent than Andrew ( not difficult ) and will have hidden their tracks very well.

 

Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 11 Sep 21 10.01am

Hope I've bumped the most recent thread on this.

It seems Andrews has swerved recent movements in public and has moved under cover of darkness between his home and now Balmoral, in order to swerve serving of legal papers for a civil lawsuit alleging historical rape.

[Link]

Whether the papers have been properly served is now under consideration by a District Judge in the US.
In any case, if the papers aren't served within a timeframe, then it automatically reverts to a 'default position' where the case can continue regardless.

It's going to be interesting how much of a struggle HRH puts up in court trying to block the case, rather than just riding the storm with his cast-iron Pizza-Hut type alibi.

 


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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 11 Sep 21 10.10am

DOY now hoping to get court cased tossed off.

[Link]

DOY struggles are now looking like a man quite scared of this coming to court

 


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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 11 Sep 21 11.23am

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Hope I've bumped the most recent thread on this.

It seems Andrews has swerved recent movements in public and has moved under cover of darkness between his home and now Balmoral, in order to swerve serving of legal papers for a civil lawsuit alleging historical rape.

[Link]

Whether the papers have been properly served is now under consideration by a District Judge in the US.
In any case, if the papers aren't served within a timeframe, then it automatically reverts to a 'default position' where the case can continue regardless.

It's going to be interesting how much of a struggle HRH puts up in court trying to block the case, rather than just riding the storm with his cast-iron Pizza-Hut type alibi.

No our law applies here and papers have to be served properly by hand.

If he goes there or gets involved he is an even bigger twit than he appears.


 

beak Flag croydon 11 Sep 21 11.34am

No royal would ever receive a fair trial in a republic,they would be like sharks sensing blood (royal) in the water. The USA is known for bullying and we should resist. In British law at seventeen she was above the age of consent. As for coercion she seemed to have accepted lavish hospitality.The USA seem to be less than unhappy sending us their citizens who have committed far worse crimes.Anne Sacoolas of diplomatic immunity readily springs to mind.

 

becky Flag over the moon 11 Sep 21 2.50pm

This is a civil action against Prince Andrew. He has to prove nothing. She has to prove he is guilty.

 


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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 11 Sep 21 4.01pm

Originally posted by becky

This is a civil action against Prince Andrew. He has to prove nothing. She has to prove he is guilty.

Suprised that a lady isn"t worried about those poor victims Becky, and that randy doesn"t go on to commit more acts with young ladies! Just because you can have sex with a 16 year old over here, doesn"t make it right if you are 60!

 

cryrst Flag The garden of England 11 Sep 21 5.00pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

Suprised that a lady isn"t worried about those poor victims Becky, and that randy doesn"t go on to commit more acts with young ladies! Just because you can have sex with a 16 year old over here, doesn"t make it right if you are 60!

I doubt they are 'poor' and maybe their aim is never to be so!

 

beak Flag croydon 11 Sep 21 5.05pm

Originally posted by becky

This is a civil action against Prince Andrew. He has to prove nothing. She has to prove he is guilty.


..... but the burden of proof is lower.It is not beyond a reasonable doubt.

 

croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 11 Sep 21 5.23pm

Originally posted by cryrst

I doubt they are 'poor' and maybe their aim is never to be so!

Maybe . But would you be happy for a 17 year old family member to go abroad to visit HRH The Duke of York, all expenses paid?

 

Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 11 Sep 21 5.55pm

Originally posted by beak


..... but the burden of proof is lower.It is not beyond a reasonable doubt.

Indeed. Certainly in the UK, it is "on the balance of probability" that a court can decide.
The Complainant seems to have a few witnesses willing to testify that meetings occurred, but beyond that, we will have to see if it ever reaches court.

Perhaps a non-disclosure sum£££££, is being sought for dropping the case.

 


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Slimey Toad Flag Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 11 Sep 21 6.24pm

Originally posted by becky

This is a civil action against Prince Andrew. He has to prove nothing. She has to prove he is guilty.

Being pedantic, you don't have to prove anything as a defendant in a criminal case either.

 

croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 11 Sep 21 6.45pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Indeed. Certainly in the UK, it is "on the balance of probability" that a court can decide.
The Complainant seems to have a few witnesses willing to testify that meetings occurred, but beyond that, we will have to see if it ever reaches court.

Perhaps a non-disclosure sum£££££, is being sought for dropping the case.

This is exactly what I thought Forest, and we will be paying it for him, oh well.

 

BlueJay Flag UK 11 Sep 21 6.58pm

Originally posted by becky

This is a civil action against Prince Andrew. He has to prove nothing. She has to prove he is guilty.

I doubt he's even breaking out in a sweat!

 

becky Flag over the moon 11 Sep 21 8.35pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

Maybe . But would you be happy for a 17 year old family member to go abroad to visit HRH The Duke of York, all expenses paid?

According to her earlier testimonies, she refers to her father driving her back to Epstein/Maxwell's place after she had been home for a holiday. Now if she was being traffic'd/abused why wouldn't she have said something to her father (who there is no evidence against that he was involved in any of this)? So he was obviously quite happy - or she never told him what she was being 'made' to do.

 


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