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orpingtoneagle Orpington 25 Jul 20 10.00pm
Why are we still talking about this? He is not coming back anytime soon, unless we sign him again from Turkey for say £28 Mill.... The way this club is run who knows?

orpingtoneagle

Orpington 25 Jul 20 10.00pm

Why are we still talking about this?

He is not coming back anytime soon, unless we sign him again from Turkey for say £28 Mill....

The way this club is run who knows?

southnorwoodhill 25 Jul 20 10.10pm
Originally posted by orpingtoneagle Why are we still talking about this? He is not coming back anytime soon, unless we sign him again from Turkey for say £28 Mill.... The way this club is run who knows? Straight swap for Benteke Edited by southnorwoodhill (25 Jul 2020 10.11pm)

southnorwoodhill

25 Jul 20 10.10pm

Originally posted by orpingtoneagle

Why are we still talking about this?

He is not coming back anytime soon, unless we sign him again from Turkey for say £28 Mill....

The way this club is run who knows?

Straight swap for Benteke

Edited by southnorwoodhill (25 Jul 2020 10.11pm)

palace_in_frogland In a broken dream 25 Jul 20 10.24pm
Originally posted by pompeyeagle I like the “player to watch” Josh McEachran (who?). I guess things haven’t worked out as he would have hoped in the 9 years since that article. Yes, but this is from Ligue 1: Player to watch: Paris Saint-Germain's 21-year-old French centre back Mamadou Sakho. An extremely strong and rugged centre back, Sakho is the future of the French national team. I hope manager Laurent Blanc can start Sakho because he is a good footballer not because of his skin colour.

palace_in_frogland

In a broken dream 25 Jul 20 10.24pm

Originally posted by pompeyeagle

I like the “player to watch” Josh McEachran (who?). I guess things haven’t worked out as he would have hoped in the 9 years since that article.

Yes, but this is from Ligue 1:

Player to watch: Paris Saint-Germain's 21-year-old French centre back Mamadou Sakho.

An extremely strong and rugged centre back, Sakho is the future of the French national team. I hope manager Laurent Blanc can start Sakho because he is a good footballer not because of his skin colour.

Den1923 26 Jul 20 7.04am
[Link] Not sure how true the above is but it is interesting how Sorioth is gaining respect from media sources!

Den1923

26 Jul 20 7.04am

[Link]

Not sure how true the above is but it is interesting how Sorioth is gaining respect from media sources!

Jacey 27 Jul 20 5.29pm
"Palace made him feel like a spare part". [Link]

Jacey

27 Jul 20 5.29pm

"Palace made him feel like a spare part".

[Link]

orpingtoneagle Orpington 27 Jul 20 5.34pm
This lad sounds a great prodpect. Ben scoring for fun in Turkey. Might be just what we need. I reckon a cheeky bid of about £25 Mill should secure his services

orpingtoneagle

Orpington 27 Jul 20 5.34pm

This lad sounds a great prodpect. Ben scoring for fun in Turkey.

Might be just what we need. I reckon a cheeky bid of about £25 Mill should secure his services

Spiderman Horsham 27 Jul 20 5.47pm
He may not have made it in the PL but this loan deal was amatuerish, if Dougie was responsible in any other walk of life he would be sacked.

Spiderman

Horsham 27 Jul 20 5.47pm

He may not have made it in the PL but this loan deal was amatuerish, if Dougie was responsible in any other walk of life he would be sacked.

cpj Kent 27 Jul 20 5.54pm
Originally posted by Spiderman He may not have made it in the PL but this loan deal was amatuerish, if Dougie was responsible in any other walk of life he would be sacked. Exactly - surely heads have rolled over this. As usual we are a joke of a club.

cpj

Kent 27 Jul 20 5.54pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

He may not have made it in the PL but this loan deal was amatuerish, if Dougie was responsible in any other walk of life he would be sacked.

Exactly - surely heads have rolled over this. As usual we are a joke of a club.

Plaistow Eagle 27 Jul 20 7.07pm
Originally posted by Spiderman He may not have made it in the PL but this loan deal was amatuerish, if Dougie was responsible in any other walk of life he would be sacked. Surely we would have included a recall clause - most loan deals do..!! If not whoever negotiated the deal is “grossly incompetent” and should be dealt with accordingly..! COYP

Plaistow Eagle

27 Jul 20 7.07pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

He may not have made it in the PL but this loan deal was amatuerish, if Dougie was responsible in any other walk of life he would be sacked.

Surely we would have included a recall clause - most loan deals do..!!

If not whoever negotiated the deal is “grossly incompetent” and should be dealt with accordingly..!

COYP

Spiderman Horsham 27 Jul 20 7.16pm
Originally posted by Plaistow Eagle Surely we would have included a recall clause - most loan deals do..!! If not whoever negotiated the deal is “grossly incompetent” and should be dealt with accordingly..! COYP No recall clause. Only clause I can see is they could buy for £5.5m. Total and utter incompetence

Spiderman

Horsham 27 Jul 20 7.16pm

Originally posted by Plaistow Eagle

Surely we would have included a recall clause - most loan deals do..!!

If not whoever negotiated the deal is “grossly incompetent” and should be dealt with accordingly..!

COYP

No recall clause. Only clause I can see is they could buy for £5.5m. Total and utter incompetence

Plaistow Eagle 27 Jul 20 7.41pm
Originally posted by Spiderman No recall clause. Only clause I can see is they could buy for £5.5m. Total and utter incompetence Why oh why in the multi million £ marketplace that is professional football would you negotiate and agree a deal like that - when the asset is under “primary” contract to you? I just can’t believe it’s right - no one is seriously that naive and or stupid at that level - surely..!! Especially when you’d already invested a reported £9M..! Any deal like this must have been signed off at Exec level so they’re all equally culpable. If true no wonder Harris and Blitzer don’t trust Parish et al with further investment...!!

Plaistow Eagle

27 Jul 20 7.41pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

No recall clause. Only clause I can see is they could buy for £5.5m. Total and utter incompetence

Why oh why in the multi million £ marketplace that is professional football would you negotiate and agree a deal like that - when the asset is under “primary” contract to you?

I just can’t believe it’s right - no one is seriously that naive and or stupid at that level - surely..!!

Especially when you’d already invested a reported £9M..!

Any deal like this must have been signed off at Exec level so they’re all equally culpable.

If true no wonder Harris and Blitzer don’t trust Parish et al with further investment...!!

nead1 27 Jul 20 7.44pm
The issue was actually over trying to recoup as much as possible as was invested in his purchase - hence the E5.5m price tag which largely covered the outlay of his purchase. The judgement was made - probably by Roy, Dougie and Parish - that he was not going to make it in the PL and hence it was best for both parties to cut their losses. Such a view was, it is worth recalling, very much the judgement of the vast majority of fans. Hence, it has been a major surprise that he has done so well in Turkey whereas his impact on loan in Belgium was minimal. Many people thought at the time that the deal that had been struck was a good one for CPFC; easy with the great vision of hindsight to say it should have been done differently. Personally, I am still not really convinced that he will make it in a top league but time will tell.

nead1

27 Jul 20 7.44pm

The issue was actually over trying to recoup as much as possible as was invested in his purchase - hence the E5.5m price tag which largely covered the outlay of his purchase. The judgement was made - probably by Roy, Dougie and Parish - that he was not going to make it in the PL and hence it was best for both parties to cut their losses. Such a view was, it is worth recalling, very much the judgement of the vast majority of fans. Hence, it has been a major surprise that he has done so well in Turkey whereas his impact on loan in Belgium was minimal.
Many people thought at the time that the deal that had been struck was a good one for CPFC; easy with the great vision of hindsight to say it should have been done differently.
Personally, I am still not really convinced that he will make it in a top league but time will tell.

Plaistow Eagle 27 Jul 20 7.59pm
Originally posted by nead1 The issue was actually over trying to recoup as much as possible as was invested in his purchase - hence the E5.5m price tag which largely covered the outlay of his purchase. The judgement was made - probably by Roy, Dougie and Parish - that he was not going to make it in the PL and hence it was best for both parties to cut their losses. Such a view was, it is worth recalling, very much the judgement of the vast majority of fans. Hence, it has been a major surprise that he has done so well in Turkey whereas his impact on loan in Belgium was minimal. Many people thought at the time that the deal that had been struck was a good one for CPFC; easy with the great vision of hindsight to say it should have been done differently. Personally, I am still not really convinced that he will make it in a top league but time will tell. Anyone heard of Ian Wright or Jamie Vardy - latter golden boot winner this season...!! With that in mind how does anyone cognitively make a decision like that about a 23 year old - with no safety net - which in this case would be a recall clause. It’s not about hindsight it’s about common sense and business acumen - both of which appear to be on this occasion sadly lacking..!!

Plaistow Eagle

27 Jul 20 7.59pm

Originally posted by nead1

Anyone heard of Ian Wright or Jamie Vardy - latter golden boot winner this season...!!

With that in mind how does anyone cognitively make a decision like that about a 23 year old - with no safety net - which in this case would be a recall clause.

It’s not about hindsight it’s about common sense and business acumen - both of which appear to be on this occasion sadly lacking..!!

Painter Croydon 27 Jul 20 8.33pm
Originally posted by Plaistow Eagle Anyone heard of Ian Wright or Jamie Vardy - latter golden boot winner this season...!! With that in mind how does anyone cognitively make a decision like that about a 23 year old - with no safety net - which in this case would be a recall clause. It’s not about hindsight it’s about common sense and business acumen - both of which appear to be on this occasion sadly lacking..!! Not sure what Wright and Vardy have to do with Sorloth, as both of them are English. A better comparison is Sandor Torghelle the Hungarian flop Dowie brought in, had rave reviews, but couldn't hack the Premier. Hodgson is right, just because you score in one league, it doesn't follow that you will score anywhere. The exact terms of the loan deal aren't known, its all been paper talk, we may have a big sell on clause. Its common sense not to reveal all the details of a deal. The Utd Zaha deal, who knows what the real sell on clause is?

Painter

Croydon 27 Jul 20 8.33pm

Originally posted by Plaistow Eagle

Anyone heard of Ian Wright or Jamie Vardy - latter golden boot winner this season...!!

With that in mind how does anyone cognitively make a decision like that about a 23 year old - with no safety net - which in this case would be a recall clause.

It’s not about hindsight it’s about common sense and business acumen - both of which appear to be on this occasion sadly lacking..!!

Not sure what Wright and Vardy have to do with Sorloth, as both of them are English. A better comparison is Sandor Torghelle the Hungarian flop Dowie brought in, had rave reviews, but couldn't hack the Premier.
Hodgson is right, just because you score in one league, it doesn't follow that you will score anywhere.
The exact terms of the loan deal aren't known, its all been paper talk, we may have a big sell on clause. Its common sense not to reveal all the details of a deal. The Utd Zaha deal, who knows what the real sell on clause is?

Spiderman Horsham 27 Jul 20 8.38pm
Originally posted by Painter Not sure what Wright and Vardy have to do with Sorloth, as both of them are English. A better comparison is Sandor Torghelle the Hungarian flop Dowie brought in, had rave reviews, but couldn't hack the Premier. Hodgson is right, just because you score in one league, it doesn't follow that you will score anywhere. The exact terms of the loan deal aren't known, its all been paper talk, we may have a big sell on clause. Its common sense not to reveal all the details of a deal. The Utd Zaha deal, who knows what the real sell on clause is? I think you can safely say there is no recall clause, otherwise surely we would have activated it in January. I thought it is well known Utd get 25% of any Zaha fee up to £50m

Spiderman

Horsham 27 Jul 20 8.38pm

Originally posted by Painter

I think you can safely say there is no recall clause, otherwise surely we would have activated it in January. I thought it is well known Utd get 25% of any Zaha fee up to £50m

nead1 27 Jul 20 9.34pm
The safety net was about largely about covering the costs associated with his initial purchase.Can I take it you are a big fan of Sorloth and think he will cut it in the PL? If so, lets just agree to differ.

nead1

27 Jul 20 9.34pm

The safety net was about largely about covering the costs associated with his initial purchase.Can I take it you are a big fan of Sorloth and think he will cut it in the PL? If so, lets just agree to differ.

Rachid Rachid Rachid 27 Jul 20 9.59pm
He was really poor. Seemed to always need a touch before getting his bearings and took too long around goal. Good luck to him if his confidence has grown in Turkey but there's no pretending he looked anything apart from well below the level here.

Rachid Rachid Rachid

27 Jul 20 9.59pm

He was really poor. Seemed to always need a touch before getting his bearings and took too long around goal.

Good luck to him if his confidence has grown in Turkey but there's no pretending he looked anything apart from well below the level here.

Spiderman Horsham 27 Jul 20 10.42pm
Originally posted by nead1 The safety net was about largely about covering the costs associated with his initial purchase.Can I take it you are a big fan of Sorloth and think he will cut it in the PL? If so, lets just agree to differ. If you were asking me. I don’t think he would cut in the PL, from what we have seen so far, but he is only 23. My gripe is the appalling Liam detail, surely no-one can think it was a good deal!

Spiderman

Horsham 27 Jul 20 10.42pm

Originally posted by nead1

If you were asking me. I don’t think he would cut in the PL, from what we have seen so far, but he is only 23. My gripe is the appalling Liam detail, surely no-one can think it was a good deal!

Bearcage Welling 27 Jul 20 10.51pm
Originally posted by Spiderman If you were asking me. I don’t think he would cut in the PL, from what we have seen so far, but he is only 23. My gripe is the appalling Liam detail, surely no-one can think it was a good deal! It might not be what some consider a good deal for Pslace, but it might have been the only deal possible at the time, so was the best deal.

Bearcage

Welling 27 Jul 20 10.51pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

If you were asking me. I don’t think he would cut in the PL, from what we have seen so far, but he is only 23. My gripe is the appalling Liam detail, surely no-one can think it was a good deal!

It might not be what some consider a good deal for Pslace, but it might have been the only deal possible at the time, so was the best deal.

EddieMac 27 Jul 20 11.13pm
Originally posted by Jacey "Palace made him feel like a spare part". [Link] He was awful. One of the worst iv seen in a long time.

EddieMac

27 Jul 20 11.13pm

Originally posted by Jacey

"Palace made him feel like a spare part".

[Link]

He was awful. One of the worst iv seen in a long time.

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