Agreed. How many posts on here are actually about Flynn Downes?! And no I'm not going to count them.

Peter, with the greatest of respect, Willo brings it upon himself and those criticising him for his style and content are just as entitled to their opinion and to post as anyone else.

No, own of the South Downes I believe. According to what I’ve been told.

I remember him, his brother Upson was handy as well.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold...

This is all somewhat befuddling.
All I do is to be respectful to all and sundry and post in good faith, trying to be as constructive and informative as I can yet I am on the end of unrelenting invective.

I argue my case free of abhorrent personal insults and I certainly do NOT consider myself some omniscient sage with an ego sprouting as fast as Clematis Montana.
Those who truly know me would vouch for the fact that the 'Picture' painted of me on HOL is far from the actualite.

Anyhow, I have repudiated and upbraided some of the dastardly accusations and there is no need for me to add any more to what I have asserted on this thread.
Good night to one and all.

There is a bit of an obsession for some over the height of this boy, but does anyone know what his weight is for 5’ 8’ torso. What sort of pace he possesses .? That height is not that small anyway.
The game may have changed in some respects, but Billy Bremner was a midget until he tackled you, Nobby Styles took no prisoners, and Allen Ball helped drive a World Cup winning team, and remained one of the best midfield players of his time over a long career. I don’t make a comparison to Downes , except on the size issue, does anyone know how tall Messi, is?

Closer to home Cabaye was not exactly a giant, but I think he managed to leave his mark in many ways.

Edited by trapperjohn (30 Aug 2020 1.04pm)

I got vision, and the rest of the world wears bifocals.

I've never really understood the point of a transfer request. Can anyone explain exactly how it helps force through a transfer? I mean presumably you'd have already told the manager and chairman that you want to leave so what does submitting it formally as a letter achieve?

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold...

In this day and age a transfer request does very little. It used to mean the player wasn’t entitled to a loyalty bonus. A loyalty bonus was something a player would be entitled to if they were sold within the agreed contract period.

Now imagine smaller fees from yesteryear and you can see how a transfer request made it more attractive for the selling club...but fees are big these days and the difference is much smaller.

That’s my understanding at least. It would be fair to say individual clubs will have different contract setups.

Also just to add to the topic, I said early on his height could be a problem. I don’t think it means he can’t achieve being a prem quality player by any means. Just that if there was an obvious area for consideration it may be his physical presence.

How you can compare a league one centre mid who’s 5ft 8” to world class strikers of the same height...well I’m baffled by it.

I would also urge caution when you bring yellow cards into the debate. They are not a good side of anyone’s game...quite the opposite in the prem where we could be up against world class free kick takers each week.