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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Yes, thanks for letting us know we're all stupid. It's not like the team is playing dog poo in front of our own eyes. Cool heads would and will sack Roy when they analyse the performances. That's the life of a football manager. Roy knows it too. Who said you are all stupid? The team is playing as well as it can, given who is available. If you think just playing some of the promising youngsters would improve things, I don’t. It could do great damage to their confidence. A change could be made. I don’t rule it out, but it would be done very reluctantly and only after some long hard thinking and with a replacement lined up.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Who said you are all stupid? The team is playing as well as it can, given who is available. If you think just playing some of the promising youngsters would improve things, I don’t. It could do great damage to their confidence. A change could be made. I don’t rule it out, but it would be done very reluctantly and only after some long hard thinking and with a replacement lined up. God, you are boring on here as you are on the News & Politics section. Go back there.
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Originally posted by Plaistow Eagle
You are simply wrong - Roy is not doing a pragmatic job - his making a complete pigs a@se out of getting the best of a squad that contains undoubted ability and potential. Reason he’s doing that is that he stubbornly and more recently arrogantly sticks with proven mediocrity / substandard players over the potential and ability he has available. Look at yesterday Hughes and Schlupp were woeful again..!! He brings on his oldest most experienced mediocre player a centre half at that when we’re 3-0 down - who then proceeds to give away 2 further goals - Roy’s response after the game - we should have protected the result - what result we’re 3-0 down..!! Then confounds his comments even further by saying - we bought the youngsters on but was too much for them so the result got away from us - when it was his most experienced mediocre player that he bought on for a current England centre half that gave away the 2 additional goals..!! I just don’t get how that is down to the youngsters - that’s just plain poor game management and tactics..!! On the youngsters Ahamada proved the potential is there by producing the best moment of the game for us with a great run - demonstrating all that Roy is missing and refusing to give a chance. That’s not to mention Franca, Ozoh etc.. Nope the likes of Hughes and Schlupp are rubbish every week - but he still stubbornly plays them - that’s why we are in this mess..!! So how you can say Roy is doing a pragmatic job is beyond me - his stubbornness and arrogance knows no bounds and until he goes this will continue..!! COYP I disagree. Hughes and Schlupp might not be top 6 quality but they are both experienced professionals. Who do you think is better who is also fit? Ozoh is going to be an important player for us but needs to be introduced in a sensible way. Franca looks out of his depth at the moment and too big a risk. Ahamada will probably get more time in the coming games. Roy isn’t stubborn. He simply knows a bit more about how to manage a season than the average fan.
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
One of the only times I can agree with you. Thanks. I am sure there are many things we would agree on. Like there was an obvious foul for the first goal yesterday.m
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Originally posted by Palacesince64
Aside from the awful boring football the most depressing thing is that it’s still January and we’re all wishing the season was over. We started with a sense of optimism after keeping Eze and Olise despite the bizarre transfer window. Accepted they’ve both been injured but it would have been nice to have enjoyed a season with them playing before their big money moves. We will limp along with Roy in the dugout until the summer as long as he beats Sheffield United in 10 days time. We will probably survive because the 3 who came up are not PL standard and Everton and Forest are being hammered by the PL. Because we are long suffering fans we will cling to the hope that work will start on the new stand, an exciting young coach will be appointed, and the money we get from selling Olise and Guehi will be spent more wisely than was the case this past summer. COYP! Oh and the yanks will sell to someone who is prepared to invest in the club….. Edited by Palacesince64 (21 Jan 2024 2.51pm) And in 5 years we will still be in the PL, fighting for a place in Europe, enjoying good cup runs and all of this will be forgotten. Or we will be in the Championship trying to build a team of youngsters ready to be the “team of the 30s”. Both would be fun.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
With you on this one. Obviously, results ultimately dictate the fate of a manager, but putting up daft banners and whining won't help. The next game could be pivotal as to who will be in charge in the near future. I hope Roy can rescue us and himself once again because he does not deserve all the criticism. I agree.
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Originally posted by auk
There are few virtues greater than loyalty. I don't agree with much of your post. There is one virtue greater than loyalty and that's integrity. And Roy should show some and resign after all these turgid, unimaginative performances that would only be acceptable if we were winning. The life is being sucked out of our club.
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Ed Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I disagree. Hughes and Schlupp might not be top 6 quality but they are both experienced professionals. Who do you think is better who is also fit? Ozoh is going to be an important player for us but needs to be introduced in a sensible way. Franca looks out of his depth at the moment and too big a risk. Ahamada will probably get more time in the coming games. Roy isn’t stubborn. He simply knows a bit more about how to manage a season than the average fan. Not asking you to agree with me..!! But Roy is stubborn - always has been going back to his England days - you only need to look at his response after being sacked following the Iceland debacle to see that - his response I’m no longer England Manager so why do I need to face the press..!! Recently he’s become even more stubborn - bordering on arrogant - he’s press conferences and post match comments becoming more nonsensical - some bordering on the bizarre and the unfathomable..!! So according to your philosophy Hughes and Schlupp have the right to play because they are “experienced professionals” - so using/applying the same philosophy Tomkins should play ahead of Guehi because he is more experienced - is that honestly what you are saying/suggesting..!!?? If so my question is are you Roy..?? All this “experienced professional” thing is a nonsense - if you’re good enough you’re old enough - Jude Bellingham is 20 years of age - main man for Real Madrid and arguably the best midfielder in the world..!! If he were at Palace playing under your suggested philosophy under Roy he’d probably still be playing for the u21’s..!! The frustration is there is clear and obvious talent and potential being overlooked and held back by Roy - precisely for the reason you have stated - because so called more “experienced professionals” are being selected week in and week out - despite how poorly they perform and the subsequent/associated results..!! That’s why you are wrong and that’s why Roy has got to go..!! COYP
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Originally posted by auk
In fairness to Roy, I thought his post-match interview on BBC was excellent - all the more so given the circumstances. I think he should stay to the end of the season. Furthermore, I think the board should make that commitment immediately - to end uncertainty for Roy, for the team and for the fans. The situation is calling out for a statement of intent from SP, and he should demonstrate leadership by making it forthwith. Backing Roy is both the best practical decision and the ethical decision. There are few virtues greater than loyalty. Really - surely that’s a bad joke..!!
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Originally posted by MonsterMunch
No one can be surprised in the current situation. We’ve had this feeling of malaise with Roy for 4 years. Anyone who went through that period knew he would revert back to type soon enough. This is on the board as far as I’m concerned. They just thought they could limp over the line, this will likely still be the case even if Roy stays. By Roy’s own admission palace came knocking on his door when PV was given the boot not the other way round. Roy’s a gentleman and a proper football man and accepted the offer in palaces hour of need. Parish and co should not have put Roy in this position. Roy’s time was more than done last time round. To compound the situation they have given him next to zero support, everybody knows Roy won’t play a teenage kid from Brazil in his first season, just like he won’t play the young palace kids either. It’s not his way, everybody knows this which makes the signing even more odd. Yes he’s one for the future, but our need was short term and while Roy is with us. Yes Roy ever the gentleman has said he came into the role with his eyes wide open but they have failed him. I’m sad it’s ended/ending like this for Roy and was so unnecessary. We do need to move on from Roy, even though the noises out the club are the players are fully behind him still. I hated seeing that image of Roy looking at that banner yesterday albeit I very much agree that message was needed. The club needs a lift, a new personality leading our team can given us that. Parish’s managerial decisions bar Roy have been very questionable so we’ll have to trust he gets this one right. Roy has been forced back to his old style, due to circumstances beyond his control. Last season he had Decoure, Eze, Olise and Zaha all playing well, thats all gone tits up. Olise injured bar 5-6 games, Eze injured twice, Decoure out most of the season and Zaha couldnt make up his mind, then chose Turkey mid August. So, his attacking options are curtailed.
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Originally posted by Painter
Roy has been forced back to his old style, due to circumstances beyond his control. Last season he had Decoure, Eze, Olise and Zaha all playing well, thats all gone tits up. Olise injured bar 5-6 games, Eze injured twice, Decoure out most of the season and Zaha couldnt make up his mind, then chose Turkey mid August. So, his attacking options are curtailed. Forced back into his old style isn't working, however. I can entirely understand the lack of our best players. Nevertheless, I can look at Pulis, for example. He had a crap side and used it to his nest ability to scrape points. We have to do the same now. We simply have to work on set pieces. We have no choice than to try and make goal chances from our own, largely regardless of where they are on the pitch. We need to put men forward and lump it up - however much that offends Roy's sensibilities. Same goes for defending them. We're going to have to bring everyone back, more or less, and defend them as a team.
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If he aint gone by tomorrow morning , he aint going.
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Originally posted by Elwissthebest
Well, nothing happens quickly at Palace, so he has that going for him. Sheffield United is a must-win. It has been thought that RH specializes in beating sides in the bottom half of the table, but that halo has slipped a bit this season. Should the manager lose the next game, that may well be it. In the unlikely event that there is someone already waiting in the wings (other than Paddy Mac.) then to give him a few days to prepare for the next match might make sense? It may be that if RH stays until the end of the season, Palace will escape relegation (just). On balance, I would think that the Board will take the view that there is a better likelihood of this happening than if it replaces him (just). Aint that the truth . Unless of course its the release of a new home shirt or sale of season tickets . Hmm i see a pattern forming .
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Originally posted by glazedallover
If he aint gone by tomorrow morning , he aint going. This ignores the way Parish normally acts - a run as bad as this has presumably brought about at least a meeting or two. One with Roy I would think. I could be wrong, just a hunch, but I think there will be news maybe soon. And I doubt it will be about the New Main Stand.
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Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker
Aint that the truth . Unless of course its the release of a new home shirt or sale of season tickets . Hmm i see a pattern forming . To be completely fair, they also didn’t have new home shirts available last season until about Christmas and this year it took several weeks to get more than 1 box full of Mediums. I just don’t think it’s right to say the Board is competent in this area, they’re equally useless at all aspects!
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Originally posted by CpfcWeTrust1
Why? How would you persuade any player to come play under Roy, nevermind one under 25 and in the least attack minded. He plays the same setup week in, week out. This lies at Roy's door. Lack of investment in squad, no forward planning and taking the easy option with Roy Edited by Spiderman (21 Jan 2024 9.16pm)
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