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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 10 Jul 17 9.49pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

From the established right wingers on here I've noticed recently:
Refusal to read articles with citations in because they present one side of an argument.
Outright denial of the reporting of an increase in 'hate crimes'
Any doubts about Brexit are met with we won you lost type answers rather than a counter argument.

Are you taking these 'hate crime' reports seriously. Do you really think a system that records as a crime any 'incidents' reported, without any checks or evidence that they have actually taken place at all, is of any use other than a tool to be used for propaganda purposes? Even if these unproven claims were true, why should Brexit be the cause?

 


We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

Stirlingsays Flag 10 Jul 17 10.13pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

From the established right wingers on here I've noticed recently:
Refusal to read articles with citations in because they present one side of an argument.
Outright denial of the reporting of an increase in 'hate crimes'
Any doubts about Brexit are met with we won you lost type answers rather than a counter argument.

Nick, you aren't one who can seriously moan about people being one sided.

All of what you say here has been countered. What's evident is your refusal to take those answers and instead you continually come up with the same arguments.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 10 Jul 17 10.14pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Are you taking these 'hate crime' reports seriously. Do you really think a system that records as a crime any 'incidents' reported, without any checks or evidence that they have actually taken place at all, is of any use other than a tool to be used for propaganda purposes? Even if these unproven claims were true, why should Brexit be the cause?

Next you'll be asking why acid attacks on Muslims are deemed islamaphobic.

 

CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 10 Jul 17 10.18pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

No one cares what you think. You're just a wind up merchant. You speculate out of your backside.

If voting leave means people like you are p1ssed off then it's already over-achieved.

If Brexit is denied then whatever party makes that happen is going to pay a hell of a political price. Remain parties had very little support in the election.

I agree with you but 55% voted for anti austerity parties and we've still got that.

Big difference is perhaps papers like Brexit and don't care about austerity and even like it.

 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 10 Jul 17 10.18pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Nick, you aren't one who can seriously moan about people being one sided.

All of what you say here has been countered. What's evident is your refusal to take those answers and instead you continually come up with the same arguments.


I beg to differ. Look back through at the responses.

 

hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 10 Jul 17 10.18pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Next you'll be asking why acid attacks on Muslims are deemed islamaphobic.

Not at all, a perpetrator of a proven acid attack should be charged, tried and if found guilty, punished.
But do you think that any incident that is reported should be automatically believed and added to statistics? That is what these claims of increases in hate crimes is based on.

 


We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

elgrande Flag bedford 10 Jul 17 10.23pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Not at all, a perpetrator of a proven acid attack should be charged, tried and if found guilty, punished.
But do you think that any incident that is reported should be automatically believed and added to statistics? That is what these claims of increases in hate crimes is based on.

I agree if found guilty throw the book at them,but I haven't seen any reports of acid attacks.

 


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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 10 Jul 17 10.43pm

Originally posted by elgrande

I agree if found guilty throw the book at them,but I haven't seen any reports of acid attacks.

There's been a very nasty one reported for the last week or so. A very unlucky brown-skinned couple whose car stopped at traffic lights in London and they were burnt to buggery by some cvnt passing with sulphuric acid. He must have been hunting. Has handed himself in now. GBH. Should be attempted murder. No different to terrorism.

 


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elgrande Flag bedford 10 Jul 17 10.47pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

There's been a very nasty one reported for the last week or so. A very unlucky brown-skinned couple whose car stopped at traffic lights in London and they were burnt to buggery by some cvnt passing with sulphuric acid. He must have been hunting. Has handed himself in now. GBH. Should be attempted murder. No different to terrorism.

Yeah just googled that saw it,not nice at all.
As I said hope he getsceverything coming to him.

But gusset made it sound epidemic.

 


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davenotamonkey Flag 10 Jul 17 11.00pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Shoppers would be forced to pay £3 more for a traditional British fry-up if the government fails to secure a trade deal with the EU, piling more pressure on already cash-strapped consumers.


That's brexit for you - the end of the British way of life !!!!!!!

Lol. Ok. So that's now £4,303 you sad remainiacs claim Brexit will cost me. What date is it coming out of my bank account?

How is it a "traditional English fry-up" if:

1. The ingredients conveniently selected by KPMG are imported, such as Danish bacon, "Pork sausages from various EU countries", and butter imported from France? We don't produce this stuff, right?

2. How can it be "traditional" (as in, passed down through the generations) if we've required a 40-yr protectionist use bloc to enable us to partake in it?

From the "report": "For illustrative purposes, we have sourced some ingredients from abroad where shoppers could also buy a British equivalent"

They miss out the bit justifying how you consume 1 litre of olive oil, 500g of butter and nearly half a kilo of brown sauce in a fry-up. Oh, and no, it's an extra 26p, not £3.

Yeah, I wouldn't wipe my arse with that report. On closer scrutiny, an attempt at headline-grabbing Brexitaggeddon once again falls flat on it's face, and you lot fall for it hook line and sinker. Must suck being you. All conveniently timed to coincide with uber-Remainer Justin King today, forecasting supermarket doom and locust plagues, a view none of the big four supermarkets get behind.

This crap, as well as your "waaah! We're not negotiating trade deals! We're not allowed! That new, fully funded and operational ministry established last year, explicitly designed to negotiate trade deals, doesn't really exist!" is ample demonstration of the desperate denial you lot appear to wallow in.

Feel free to report this post as a hate crime, by the way. I'm averaging 10 a day since Brexit.

 

davenotamonkey Flag 10 Jul 17 11.06pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

TBH insofar as brexit was meant to achieve what leavers thought it would achieve I think it is dead.

What are you on about? Seriously? You are able to state what the UK will and won't achieve by leaving the EU, at this early stage? You talk utter 5hite you really do.

 

davenotamonkey Flag 10 Jul 17 11.09pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

There's been a very nasty one reported for the last week or so. A very unlucky brown-skinned couple whose car stopped at traffic lights in London and they were burnt to buggery by some cvnt passing with sulphuric acid. He must have been hunting. Has handed himself in now. GBH. Should be attempted murder. No different to terrorism.

Indeed it isn't, if you don't own a dictionary.

 

hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 11 Jul 17 10.41am

Originally posted by Kermit8

There's been a very nasty one reported for the last week or so. A very unlucky brown-skinned couple whose car stopped at traffic lights in London and they were burnt to buggery by some cvnt passing with sulphuric acid. He must have been hunting. Has handed himself in now. GBH. Should be attempted murder. No different to terrorism.

Do you believe that this act was carried out because the country voted for Brexit? That is the hypothesis being put forward by the likes of Gusset.

 


We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

matt_himself Flag Matataland 11 Jul 17 10.53am

Originally posted by Kermit8

There's been a very nasty one reported for the last week or so. A very unlucky brown-skinned couple whose car stopped at traffic lights in London and they were burnt to buggery by some cvnt passing with sulphuric acid. He must have been hunting. Has handed himself in now. GBH. Should be attempted murder. No different to terrorism.

How do you know for certain this wasn't road rage or a result of personal beef?

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

Kermit8 Flag Hevon 11 Jul 17 11.12am

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

Indeed it isn't, if you don't own a dictionary.


If you say so but I am not sure Susie Dent would be happy.

OED - Terrorism - The unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

We can tick off the first two points and as for the last we will have to wait to see if he is one of yours. The odds are not in your favour.

 


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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 11 Jul 17 11.21am

Originally posted by matt_himself

How do you know for certain this wasn't road rage or a result of personal beef?

I read the female victim's witness statement to journos. Random attack. You can still call it road rage if you want to lessen the severity of the crime even if it is revealed to be another assault by a right-wing loon.

Though Detective Superintendent Neil Matthews, said the attack was a ‘horrendous act of violence’

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 11 Jul 17 11.29am

Originally posted by Kermit8

There's been a very nasty one reported for the last week or so. A very unlucky brown-skinned couple whose car stopped at traffic lights in London and they were burnt to buggery by some cvnt passing with sulphuric acid. He must have been hunting. Has handed himself in now. GBH. Should be attempted murder. No different to terrorism.

For once we agree....though we await to hear if it was.

 


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matt_himself Flag Matataland 11 Jul 17 11.55am

Originally posted by Kermit8

I read the female victim's witness statement to journos. Random attack. You can still call it road rage if you want to lessen the severity of the crime even if it is revealed to be another assault by a right-wing loon.

Though Detective Superintendent Neil Matthews, said the attack was a ‘horrendous act of violence’

Post a link and let people make their minds up.

If it was a 'hate crime', then whomever was the perpetrator should feel the full force of the law. However, as your description is vague and you are not in possession of the facts, why don't you drop the insinuation that I would feel more comfortable with it being classed as road rage. Labelling this attack has been your thing, presumably because it fits your anti Brexit agenda.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 11 Jul 17 1.01pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Do you believe that this act was carried out because the country voted for Brexit? That is the hypothesis being put forward by the likes of Gusset.

Absolute crap.

 

hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 11 Jul 17 1.14pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Absolute crap.

You posted a link from the hilariously named newspaper 'The Independent', headlined, "Brexit vote sees highest spike in religious and racial hate crimes ever recorded."


Edited by hedgehog50 (11 Jul 2017 1.14pm)

 


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