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Midlands Eagle 16 Nov 19 7.09am
Originally posted by Bill E Pilgrim Alexander Boris de Pfeffel "£250,000 is chicken feed" Johnson's new (worse) deal has taken working right's protection out of his deal. The Tories have had 7 secret meetings with drug companies in US about drug prices in NHS. Our are much lower. So you are still referring to the Prime Minister using his full name in that childish manner that you have. I have two questions for you. Firstly if the Tories had seven secret meetings with American drug companies how come you know about them> Were you in on the meetings and secondly why do you give your location as New Addington when your IP address pinpoints you at Epsom? Is your real location too Tory for you to stomach?

Midlands Eagle

16 Nov 19 7.09am

Originally posted by Bill E Pilgrim

Alexander Boris de Pfeffel "£250,000 is chicken feed" Johnson's new (worse) deal has taken working right's protection out of his deal.

The Tories have had 7 secret meetings with drug companies in US about drug prices in NHS. Our are much lower.

So you are still referring to the Prime Minister using his full name in that childish manner that you have.

I have two questions for you. Firstly if the Tories had seven secret meetings with American drug companies how come you know about them> Were you in on the meetings and secondly why do you give your location as New Addington when your IP address pinpoints you at Epsom? Is your real location too Tory for you to stomach?

chris123 hove actually 16 Nov 19 7.12am
Originally posted by HKOwen Paging Bill E Pilgrim to answer what by-election I am interested but can't find any info one recently [Link]

chris123

hove actually 16 Nov 19 7.12am

Originally posted by HKOwen

Paging Bill E Pilgrim to answer what
by-election

I am interested but can't find any info one recently

[Link]

Invalid user 2019 16 Nov 19 7.44am
Originally posted by Bill E Pilgrim Labour won a bi-election in Westminster this week and took 47% of the vote. Oh right, but rather this is a poll at the national level, rather than a bi-election poll

Invalid user 2019

16 Nov 19 7.44am

Originally posted by Bill E Pilgrim

Labour won a bi-election in Westminster this week and took 47% of the vote.

Oh right, but rather this is a poll at the national level, rather than a bi-election poll

Midlands Eagle 16 Nov 19 8.06am
Originally posted by Bill E Pilgrim But the person they support IS a known liar who is in truck with Trump and the media to royally screw ordinary people over for big fat profits. You have absolutely no proof that your statement about the Prime Minister is anything other than opposition fake news and in any event I would rather have him as PM whatever his faults than a Marxist supporter of terrorists

Midlands Eagle

16 Nov 19 8.06am

Originally posted by Bill E Pilgrim

But the person they support IS a known liar who is in truck with Trump and the media to royally screw ordinary people over for big fat profits.

You have absolutely no proof that your statement about the Prime Minister is anything other than opposition fake news and in any event I would rather have him as PM whatever his faults than a Marxist supporter of terrorists

chris123 hove actually 16 Nov 19 8.12am
Originally posted by chris123 [Link] Ward of Aldersgate Wednesday 13 November 2019 Helen Lesley FENTIMEN was duly elected as Common Councilman for the ward BAKTH, Shahnan Rajib - Independent - 24 votes BURLEIGH, Ian Bernard - Independent - 137 votes CLIFFORD, Paul Martin - Independent - 38 votes FENTIMEN, Helen Lesley - Labour Party - 260 votes (E) THOMAS, Heather Irene - Independent - 93 votes Number of ballot papers rejected Want of an official mark - 0 Voting for more candidates than the voter was entitled to - 0 Writing or mark by which the voter could be identified - 0 Being unmarked or wholly void for uncertainty - 2 Rejected in part - 0 Summary Total spoilt votes - 2 Number of ballot papers verified and counted - 554 Turnout - 34.38%

chris123

hove actually 16 Nov 19 8.12am

Originally posted by chris123

[Link]

Ward of Aldersgate
Wednesday 13 November 2019

Helen Lesley FENTIMEN was duly elected as Common Councilman for the ward
BAKTH, Shahnan Rajib - Independent - 24 votes
BURLEIGH, Ian Bernard - Independent - 137 votes
CLIFFORD, Paul Martin - Independent - 38 votes
FENTIMEN, Helen Lesley - Labour Party - 260 votes (E)
THOMAS, Heather Irene - Independent - 93 votes
Number of ballot papers rejected

Want of an official mark - 0
Voting for more candidates than the voter was entitled to - 0
Writing or mark by which the voter could be identified - 0
Being unmarked or wholly void for uncertainty - 2
Rejected in part - 0
Summary

Total spoilt votes - 2
Number of ballot papers verified and counted - 554
Turnout - 34.38%

glazedallover Allier 16 Nov 19 8.47am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle So you are still referring to the Prime Minister using his full name in that childish manner that you have. I have two questions for you. Firstly if the Tories had seven secret meetings with American drug companies how come you know about them> Were you in on the meetings and secondly why do you give your location as New Addington when your IP address pinpoints you at Epsom? Is your real location too Tory for you to stomach? Wasn’t bozsufc IP address showing Epsom, when he was supposed to be in hospital in Sheffield?

glazedallover

Allier 16 Nov 19 8.47am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

So you are still referring to the Prime Minister using his full name in that childish manner that you have.

Wasn’t bozsufc IP address showing Epsom, when he was supposed to be in hospital in Sheffield?

steeleye20 Croydon 16 Nov 19 9.33am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle You have absolutely no proof that your statement about the Prime Minister is anything other than opposition fake news and in any event I would rather have him as PM whatever his faults than a Marxist supporter of terrorists Haha here we go again 'Marxist - terrorists etc.' Admit it the tories have f****d up the last 10 years and have nothing else to say.....

steeleye20

Croydon 16 Nov 19 9.33am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Haha here we go again 'Marxist - terrorists etc.'

Admit it the tories have f****d up the last 10 years and have nothing else to say.....

steeleye20 Croydon 16 Nov 19 9.56am
That's a good policy from Labour, on Broadband. Has been thought out, even if it doesn't come to fruition I can see, as a voter what is to be done and how it is funded, and its necessity. So raising the bar of the election, if it continues expect labour to progress as in 2017.

steeleye20

Croydon 16 Nov 19 9.56am

That's a good policy from Labour, on Broadband.

Has been thought out, even if it doesn't come to fruition I can see, as a voter what is to be done and how it is funded, and its necessity.

So raising the bar of the election, if it continues expect labour to progress as in 2017.

Deleted11 16 Nov 19 10.06am
Originally posted by .TUX. Unsurprisingly not one response to the facts that have cost us ALL for a decade now. Instead we have post upon post regarding internet access/speed/cost etc etc.......... This is the world you've made. Enjoy One? 2 wage packets isn't enough for the vast majority with kids. This country has been turned into a money washing state with almost no manufacturing, little invention and a political system and politicians not fit for purpose. We bailed out the banks, there's still a banking crisis going on and all the media can talk about are the marxists and the fascists. We do have a free press. They are free to keep everyone ignorant.

Deleted11 16 Nov 19 10.06am

Originally posted by .TUX.

Unsurprisingly not one response to the facts that have cost us ALL for a decade now. Instead we have post upon post regarding internet access/speed/cost etc etc..........

This is the world you've made.
Enjoy

One? 2 wage packets isn't enough for the vast majority with kids.

This country has been turned into a money washing state with almost no manufacturing, little invention and a political system and politicians not fit for purpose.

We bailed out the banks, there's still a banking crisis going on and all the media can talk about are the marxists and the fascists. We do have a free press. They are free to keep everyone ignorant.

chris123 hove actually 16 Nov 19 10.49am
Originally posted by cryrst What was the turnout 554.

chris123

hove actually 16 Nov 19 10.49am

Originally posted by cryrst

What was the turnout

554.

DanH SW2 16 Nov 19 10.57am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle So you are still referring to the Prime Minister using his full name in that childish manner that you have. I have two questions for you. Firstly if the Tories had seven secret meetings with American drug companies how come you know about them> Were you in on the meetings and secondly why do you give your location as New Addington when your IP address pinpoints you at Epsom? Is your real location too Tory for you to stomach? Ha, and he’s the childish one?

DanH

SW2 16 Nov 19 10.57am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

So you are still referring to the Prime Minister using his full name in that childish manner that you have.

Ha, and he’s the childish one?

Midlands Eagle 16 Nov 19 10.59am
Originally posted by DanH Ha, and he’s the childish one? Second only to you

Midlands Eagle

16 Nov 19 10.59am

Originally posted by DanH

Ha, and he’s the childish one?

Second only to you

Hrolf The Ganger 16 Nov 19 11.29am
Originally posted by .TUX. You, along with many, should've been afraid when the time came that one average wage could no longer support one average family. But you never asked why. And sadly you still won't. But you really should. You are right of course but I would counter that by saying that the average family now aspires to and often achieves a much better lifestyle than say 50 years ago.

Hrolf The Ganger

16 Nov 19 11.29am

Originally posted by .TUX.

You, along with many, should've been afraid when the time came that one average wage could no longer support one average family.
But you never asked why. And sadly you still won't.

But you really should.

You are right of course but I would counter that by saying that the average family now aspires to and often achieves a much better lifestyle than say 50 years ago.

Midlands Eagle 16 Nov 19 11.48am
Originally posted by steeleye20 Haha here we go again 'Marxist - terrorists etc.' They say that a picture paints a thousand words and here's a picture of the man that want to run this country with his mate Gerry Adams Attachment: MP-Jeremy-Corbyn-w_3469446b.jpg (72.57Kb)

Midlands Eagle

16 Nov 19 11.48am

Originally posted by steeleye20

Haha here we go again 'Marxist - terrorists etc.'

They say that a picture paints a thousand words and here's a picture of the man that want to run this country with his mate Gerry Adams

Attachment: MP-Jeremy-Corbyn-w_3469446b.jpg (72.57Kb)

EverybodyDannsNow SE19 16 Nov 19 11.52am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle They say that a picture paints a thousand words and here's a picture of the man that want to run this country with his mate Gerry Adams What does the photo prove? Is anyone photographed with Gerry Adams a Marxist terrorist sympathiser?

EverybodyDannsNow

SE19 16 Nov 19 11.52am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

They say that a picture paints a thousand words and here's a picture of the man that want to run this country with his mate Gerry Adams

What does the photo prove? Is anyone photographed with Gerry Adams a Marxist terrorist sympathiser?

steeleye20 Croydon 16 Nov 19 11.55am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle They say that a picture paints a thousand words and here's a picture of the man that want to run this country with his mate Gerry Adams The photo is a compliment to Corbyn and Adams. that politics must be the solution not war.

steeleye20

Croydon 16 Nov 19 11.55am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

They say that a picture paints a thousand words and here's a picture of the man that want to run this country with his mate Gerry Adams

The photo is a compliment to Corbyn and Adams. that politics must be the solution not war.

Deleted11 16 Nov 19 11.58am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger You are right of course but I would counter that by saying that the average family now aspires to and often achieves a much better lifestyle than say 50 years ago. That is true, but the question is, Should we have bothered? Many 'democracic' countries seem to be representing Feudal ones but we get to at least pick our rulers. The State is something the rich have never been comforatble with as it has the power to expropriate, however it is needed to protect their wealth, so how can you game it? By becoming the politicians and controlling the media. If you can control the convesation then people vote for who they feel is the right person rather than any policies. That's not me saying we should expropriate all the money and land off of the rich. We all want to at least be well off, but the obvious issue with extreme wealth is the power it has to influence.

Deleted11 16 Nov 19 11.58am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You are right of course but I would counter that by saying that the average family now aspires to and often achieves a much better lifestyle than say 50 years ago.

That is true, but the question is, Should we have bothered?

Many 'democracic' countries seem to be representing Feudal ones but we get to at least pick our rulers.

The State is something the rich have never been comforatble with as it has the power to expropriate, however it is needed to protect their wealth, so how can you game it? By becoming the politicians and controlling the media. If you can control the convesation then people vote for who they feel is the right person rather than any policies.

That's not me saying we should expropriate all the money and land off of the rich. We all want to at least be well off, but the obvious issue with extreme wealth is the power it has to influence.

Deleted11 16 Nov 19 12.02pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle They say that a picture paints a thousand words and here's a picture of the man that want to run this country with his mate Gerry Adams Come on. We have to be better than this. Leave this to the Mail and other tabloids. I don't think it would take much to find a picture of Thatcher with the likes of Pinochet and Mugabe and even Gorbachaev. This applies to all parties.

Deleted11 16 Nov 19 12.02pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

They say that a picture paints a thousand words and here's a picture of the man that want to run this country with his mate Gerry Adams

Come on. We have to be better than this. Leave this to the Mail and other tabloids.

I don't think it would take much to find a picture of Thatcher with the likes of Pinochet and Mugabe and even Gorbachaev. This applies to all parties.

Hrolf The Ganger 16 Nov 19 12.21pm
Originally posted by Jway89 That is true, but the question is, Should we have bothered? Many 'democracic' countries seem to be representing Feudal ones but we get to at least pick our rulers. The State is something the rich have never been comforatble with as it has the power to expropriate, however it is needed to protect their wealth, so how can you game it? By becoming the politicians and controlling the media. If you can control the convesation then people vote for who they feel is the right person rather than any policies. That's not me saying we should expropriate all the money and land off of the rich. We all want to at least be well off, but the obvious issue with extreme wealth is the power it has to influence. Well, that hasn't worked too well with Trump and Brexit. That was definitely not in the script. That is why the media is so anti both and why there is a charge to get both situations reversed either outside of the voting booth or with a 'people's vote'. If anything, the traditional Left should be secretly cheering Trump and Brexit on.

Hrolf The Ganger

16 Nov 19 12.21pm

Originally posted by Jway89

That is true, but the question is, Should we have bothered?

Many 'democracic' countries seem to be representing Feudal ones but we get to at least pick our rulers.

The State is something the rich have never been comforatble with as it has the power to expropriate, however it is needed to protect their wealth, so how can you game it? By becoming the politicians and controlling the media. If you can control the convesation then people vote for who they feel is the right person rather than any policies.

That's not me saying we should expropriate all the money and land off of the rich. We all want to at least be well off, but the obvious issue with extreme wealth is the power it has to influence.

Well, that hasn't worked too well with Trump and Brexit.
That was definitely not in the script.

That is why the media is so anti both and why there is a charge to get both situations reversed either outside of the voting booth or with a 'people's vote'.

If anything, the traditional Left should be secretly cheering Trump and Brexit on.

Hrolf The Ganger 16 Nov 19 12.27pm
Originally posted by Jway89 Come on. We have to be better than this. Leave this to the Mail and other tabloids. I don't think it would take much to find a picture of Thatcher with the likes of Pinochet and Mugabe and even Gorbachaev. This applies to all parties. In fairness, praising the IRA just after they had murdered English citizens is a little more unforgivable than international diplomacy with some shady foreigners.

Hrolf The Ganger

16 Nov 19 12.27pm

Originally posted by Jway89

Come on. We have to be better than this. Leave this to the Mail and other tabloids.

I don't think it would take much to find a picture of Thatcher with the likes of Pinochet and Mugabe and even Gorbachaev. This applies to all parties.

In fairness, praising the IRA just after they had murdered English citizens is a little more unforgivable than international diplomacy with some shady foreigners.

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