Then why do they continue to commit war crimes through illegal settlements in another country's land? Why do they so savagely criticise America's deal with Iran which was made specifically to diffuse tension in the region? Why does the Israeli foreign minister call for beheading Arabs and sending Palestine back to the stone age? Why have they bombed children playing on a beach?

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

Headline says Thousands.... First line says 90 per month.

Each case has been investigated thoroughly and the causal link to death was the fact that they were forced to go to work which killed them was it? Very unlikely.

I don't work... I have Parkinson's disease... I don't claim benefits either.

However if I did and I was assessed for work, there is no way I would allow the assessor to come to a conclusion I was fit for work.

Assessments can be subjective, but GENUINE cases where people are unable to work physically or mentally are not being forced into labour.

You comment only on their supposed failings, but ever since Israel was formed, the Jewish people have been under siege from the surrounding Arab nations.

They do want to live in peace, but they are not allowed to.

As for bombing children on beaches, that is collateral damage. You have no idea whether children of Israel have been hit by the rockets launched.

I don't recall "Labour" in the General Election highlighting "Tory caused mass deaths".Uhm !!!!

One can use statistics to one's own advantage to paint an emotive picture.Drilling down further often produces a totally different picture as the erudite "Hoof Hearted" has illustrated. The notion that Conservative led policies force thousands of unfit people back into the workplace causing mass deaths is totally over the top.But hey ho it makers for a good headline !

Finally, well done "Hoof Hearted" - excellent riposte.

Edited by Willo (18 Sep 2015 11.37am)

Sorry, Hoof...

"More than a third of people with degenerative conditions such as Parkinson’s and multiple sclerosis are having their benefits slashed because the Department for Work and Pensions deems they will recover enough to look for work.

Thousands of those with diseases that only worsen with time - and who have become too ill to work - are being denied full Employment Support Allowance. Instead they are assessed as suitable for work-related activity which is designed for people likely to recover to the point where they can seek employment.

People in The Work-Related Activity Group receive less money and the threat of sanctions if they do not attend regular sessions. Many also have this benefit removed after a year as an added “incentive” to find employment.

Steve Ford, Chief Executive at Parkinson’s UK, said: “These latest figures are an utter disgrace and serve to underline just how little the Government cares for those with progressive conditions like Parkinson’s. To set up a system which tells people who’ve had to give up work because of a debilitating, progressive condition that they’ll recover, is humiliating and nothing short of a farce."

The Independent

Big chest and massive boobs

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A sensible solution I agree.... but Israel has been fending off the Arabs since 1967 in my waking knowledge (and old enough to understand)... do you think they would trust the Arabs to play fair?

It is the 21st Century, but the Arabs avowed intent is to kill all non believers especially the jews, so I doubt much progress will be made on a common sense front.

The irony of saying right-wingers don't have rational minds

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

As I said.... it takes two to tango Michael.

No point putting all the blame on Israel.

Obviously the assessors criteria need tweaking then.

I am confident that Cameron et al have not designed these assessments to deliberate fail genuine disability cases such as MS and Parkinsons.

They must not have engaged properly with the medical profession, as both these diseases are degenerative without a known cure - you do not recover.

The government need lobbying on this and any other conditions that are being wrongly assessed.

As I said earlier, it is the intention to catch out the workshy and the cheats, not the genuinely disabled.

Ironic you use the term childish goading, when that is exactly what you are doing to me.

I listened to the PMQ in its entirety on the radio. And for me Corbyn sounded like a frightened little boy who had been made to tell the headmaster about what the bigger boys were doing behind the bike sheds.

He came across as a weak leader.

But the asking of Questions and the civil manner in which the horay Henrys and champagne socialists conducted themselves was much less playground, and more year 7 debate I thought.

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"