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Jacey 12 May 21 9.14pm
Originally posted by ex hibitionist Lampard would be exciting but it could go either way, you'd be ultra confident Dyche would keep us up and I think we'd be pleasantly surprised by his brand of football, as we were with Pulis and Big Sam, some managers can be unfairly stereotyped. Totally agree that Dyche has great experience and has more than proved himself at this level whereas Frank is perhaps,lacking in experience and represents a greater risk.

Jacey

12 May 21 9.14pm

Originally posted by ex hibitionist

Lampard would be exciting but it could go either way, you'd be ultra confident Dyche would keep us up and I think we'd be pleasantly surprised by his brand of football, as we were with Pulis and Big Sam, some managers can be unfairly stereotyped.

Totally agree that Dyche has great experience and has more than proved himself at this level whereas Frank is perhaps,lacking in experience and represents a greater risk.

babylonjohn St Leonards-on-Sea 12 May 21 10.11pm
Originally posted by ex hibitionist Lampard would be exciting but it could go either way, you'd be ultra confident Dyche would keep us up and I think we'd be pleasantly surprised by his brand of football, as we were with Pulis and Big Sam, some managers can be unfairly stereotyped. Im warming to the idea of Frank. If we clear out some dead wood we may be able to attract some young talent with him at the helm. Just because it went wrong with the last Frank doesnt mean we should stop dreaming of exciting football.

babylonjohn

St Leonards-on-Sea 12 May 21 10.11pm

Originally posted by ex hibitionist

Im warming to the idea of Frank. If we clear out some dead wood we may be able to attract some young talent with him at the helm.
Just because it went wrong with the last Frank doesnt mean we should stop dreaming of exciting football.

Mapletree Croydon 12 May 21 11.14pm
Originally posted by babylonjohn Im warming to the idea of Frank. If we clear out some dead wood we may be able to attract some young talent with him at the helm. Just because it went wrong with the last Frank doesnt mean we should stop dreaming of exciting football. Hopefully would get help from his uncle.

Mapletree

Croydon 12 May 21 11.14pm

Originally posted by babylonjohn

Hopefully would get help from his uncle.

Teddy Eagle 12 May 21 11.56pm
Originally posted by Mapletree Hopefully would get help from his uncle. Let his dog have a look at the accounts anyway.

Teddy Eagle

12 May 21 11.56pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Hopefully would get help from his uncle.

Let his dog have a look at the accounts anyway.

Vaibow vancouver/croydon 13 May 21 4.29am
Frank's a gamble... one I want to take?? I don't think he will take us down... but can we play better and finish the same position... I will see that as an improvement, however, I don't think he has the experience.... I want Dyche to be honest - build around Eze This was once a quality forum....

Vaibow

vancouver/croydon 13 May 21 4.29am

Frank's a gamble... one I want to take?? I don't think he will take us down... but can we play better and finish the same position... I will see that as an improvement, however, I don't think he has the experience....

I want Dyche to be honest - build around Eze

This was once a quality forum....

Spiderman Horsham 13 May 21 6.14am
Originally posted by alexdyoung87 [Link] Written by Matt Law who’s widely respected and well connected. The arrival of Lampard would bring an new wave of much needed excitement to the club and, according to the article, he’s have some money to rebuild as well as bring in some quality loans. I like the sound of this, in particular the mention of Billy Gilmour and Tammy Abraham (almost certain that wouldn’t happen though). The more I think about Lampard joining, the more appealing it is. Proven success at integrating young players into the fold which is exactly what we need. Gilmour I would take in a heartbeat, but presumably only a loan (unless Tuchel ) doesn’t rate him. Abraham would be fantastic but at the £40m Chelsea want not sure he is a priority. I assume Chelsea would want big money for Gilmour as well

Spiderman

Horsham 13 May 21 6.14am

Originally posted by alexdyoung87

[Link]

Written by Matt Law who’s widely respected and well connected.

The arrival of Lampard would bring an new wave of much needed excitement to the club and, according to the article, he’s have some money to rebuild as well as bring in some quality loans. I like the sound of this, in particular the mention of Billy Gilmour and Tammy Abraham (almost certain that wouldn’t happen though).

The more I think about Lampard joining, the more appealing it is. Proven success at integrating young players into the fold which is exactly what we need.

Gilmour I would take in a heartbeat, but presumably only a loan (unless Tuchel ) doesn’t rate him. Abraham would be fantastic but at the £40m Chelsea want not sure he is a priority. I assume Chelsea would want big money for Gilmour as well

crystal-purley Purley 13 May 21 7.38am
This is Frank de Boer all over again. We sign a manager with a good reputation but we have no money allegedly (in FdB's case it was after the deadline). Not saying no to this Frank but please use logic. To me it has to be Dyche if we can afford him and he wants to come. Enjoying getting up later and not having someone who knows better than me (apart from the missus of course).

crystal-purley

Purley 13 May 21 7.38am

This is Frank de Boer all over again. We sign a manager with a good reputation but we have no money allegedly (in FdB's case it was after the deadline). Not saying no to this Frank but please use logic. To me it has to be Dyche if we can afford him and he wants to come.

Enjoying getting up later and not having someone who knows better than me (apart from the missus of course).

Midlands Eagle 13 May 21 7.43am
Originally posted by crystal-purley This is Frank de Boer all over again. We sign a manager with a good reputation but we have no money allegedly (in FdB's case it was after the deadline). Not saying no to this Frank but please use logic. To me it has to be Dyche if we can afford him and he wants to come. Curious logic there. If we have no money then we have no money whoever takes over as manager which makes it far less attractive to people like Dyche who already have a job and won't want a sideways step to a club that is skint with dad's army for a squad

Midlands Eagle

13 May 21 7.43am

Originally posted by crystal-purley

This is Frank de Boer all over again. We sign a manager with a good reputation but we have no money allegedly (in FdB's case it was after the deadline). Not saying no to this Frank but please use logic. To me it has to be Dyche if we can afford him and he wants to come.

Curious logic there. If we have no money then we have no money whoever takes over as manager which makes it far less attractive to people like Dyche who already have a job and won't want a sideways step to a club that is skint with dad's army for a squad

pompeyeagle Relocated to Shropshire 13 May 21 8.08am
Doesn’t seem likely that Howe is coming now so Lampard would be the next best choice. His lack of experience would concern me though. He hasn’t had to deal with being at a club who’s main goal is not being in the bottom three at the end of the season but anything’s better than Roy.

pompeyeagle

Relocated to Shropshire 13 May 21 8.08am

Doesn’t seem likely that Howe is coming now so Lampard would be the next best choice. His lack of experience would concern me though. He hasn’t had to deal with being at a club who’s main goal is not being in the bottom three at the end of the season but anything’s better than Roy.

deleted 25 13 May 21 8.32am
Think Frank would e a good choice. Don't think Dyche would be interested- missed that boat a long time ago. Our most successful manager had less experience than Frank. Abraham would be worth getting at 40m - lots of Chelski fans don't think he is good enough and rather persevere with Werner

deleted 25

13 May 21 8.32am

Think Frank would e a good choice. Don't think Dyche would be interested- missed that boat a long time ago.

Our most successful manager had less experience than Frank.

Abraham would be worth getting at 40m - lots of Chelski fans don't think he is good enough and rather persevere with Werner

Spiderman Horsham 13 May 21 8.47am
Originally posted by Vincehair Think Frank would e a good choice. Don't think Dyche would be interested- missed that boat a long time ago. Our most successful manager had less experience than Frank. Abraham would be worth getting at 40m - lots of Chelski fans don't think he is good enough and rather persevere with Werner Not when you only have £50m ( allegedly) and we need at least 1 CB, 2 midfielders 1 Right sided forward and possibly another striker. Can see Brighton wanting Abraham but they would have to sell first Edited by Spiderman (13 May 2021 8.49am)

Spiderman

Horsham 13 May 21 8.47am

Originally posted by Vincehair

Think Frank would e a good choice. Don't think Dyche would be interested- missed that boat a long time ago.

Our most successful manager had less experience than Frank.

Abraham would be worth getting at 40m - lots of Chelski fans don't think he is good enough and rather persevere with Werner

Not when you only have £50m ( allegedly) and we need at least 1 CB, 2 midfielders 1 Right sided forward and possibly another striker.
Can see Brighton wanting Abraham but they would have to sell first

Edited by Spiderman (13 May 2021 8.49am)

taylors lovechild 13 May 21 8.56am
It feels like the most exciting thing about Lampard would be his potential to attract some of Chelsea's players, a bit like how getting Mount on loan at Derby was key to his relative success there. If he came and say brought in Abraham and Zouma then we'd instantly be a better team. Is that likely though? I do think that if we are replacing Roy we must have a transfer kitty of some sort or why bother replacing him. Some large companies do very well by spending when everyone else is looking to save as it is a buyer's market. It may be that Parish sees it that way too having run a tight ship for the last four years. I think it could be an opportunity to get some cut-price deals, so maybe somewhat contradicting myself the likes of Abraham and Zouma are not beyond us? We live in interesting times!

taylors lovechild

13 May 21 8.56am

It feels like the most exciting thing about Lampard would be his potential to attract some of Chelsea's players, a bit like how getting Mount on loan at Derby was key to his relative success there. If he came and say brought in Abraham and Zouma then we'd instantly be a better team. Is that likely though?

I do think that if we are replacing Roy we must have a transfer kitty of some sort or why bother replacing him. Some large companies do very well by spending when everyone else is looking to save as it is a buyer's market. It may be that Parish sees it that way too having run a tight ship for the last four years. I think it could be an opportunity to get some cut-price deals, so maybe somewhat contradicting myself the likes of Abraham and Zouma are not beyond us?

We live in interesting times!

Spiderman Horsham 13 May 21 9.22am
Originally posted by taylors lovechild It feels like the most exciting thing about Lampard would be his potential to attract some of Chelsea's players, a bit like how getting Mount on loan at Derby was key to his relative success there. If he came and say brought in Abraham and Zouma then we'd instantly be a better team. Is that likely though? I do think that if we are replacing Roy we must have a transfer kitty of some sort or why bother replacing him. Some large companies do very well by spending when everyone else is looking to save as it is a buyer's market. It may be that Parish sees it that way too having run a tight ship for the last four years. I think it could be an opportunity to get some cut-price deals, so maybe somewhat contradicting myself the likes of Abraham and Zouma are not beyond us? We live in interesting times! Whilst those players would be fantastic, it would not help reduce our wage bill. I stand corrected, just done some research, Abraham on £82k a week and Zouma on £46k, just shows how we have been overpaying Edited by Spiderman (13 May 2021 9.24am)

Spiderman

Horsham 13 May 21 9.22am

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

We live in interesting times!

Whilst those players would be fantastic, it would not help reduce our wage bill.
I stand corrected, just done some research, Abraham on £82k a week and Zouma on £46k, just shows how we have been overpaying

Edited by Spiderman (13 May 2021 9.24am)

AERO 13 May 21 9.25am
It would if we unloaded our high earners

AERO

13 May 21 9.25am

It would if we unloaded our high earners

Frickin Saweet South Cronx 13 May 21 10.35am
Originally posted by Spiderman Whilst those players would be fantastic, it would not help reduce our wage bill. I stand corrected, just done some research, Abraham on £82k a week and Zouma on £46k, just shows how we have been overpaying Edited by Spiderman (13 May 2021 9.24am) feels like it was a deliberate strategy to get 'good' players in cheap/free transfers but pay them lots to make them come. Is an easier way to manage business cash flow. But we've now massively screwed our wage structure, which has to be addressed if you look at what quality players are being paid elsewhere. We shouldn't be a charity - a manager like Lamps would at least help build the idea of a 'project' which the right sort of player can get on board with - or f-off if they don't.

Frickin Saweet

South Cronx 13 May 21 10.35am

Originally posted by Spiderman

Edited by Spiderman (13 May 2021 9.24am)

feels like it was a deliberate strategy to get 'good' players in cheap/free transfers but pay them lots to make them come. Is an easier way to manage business cash flow. But we've now massively screwed our wage structure, which has to be addressed if you look at what quality players are being paid elsewhere. We shouldn't be a charity - a manager like Lamps would at least help build the idea of a 'project' which the right sort of player can get on board with - or f-off if they don't.

taylors lovechild 13 May 21 10.41am
Originally posted by Spiderman Whilst those players would be fantastic, it would not help reduce our wage bill. I stand corrected, just done some research, Abraham on £82k a week and Zouma on £46k, just shows how we have been overpaying Edited by Spiderman (13 May 2021 9.24am) It would be some statement if we made two transfers like that, but I also really can't see either of them a) wanting to come here, or b) not having better offers from the likes of West Ham, Everton, or even Arsenal. Of course this brings up the other question that being how much say any new manager would actually have over transfers. Roy has stated repeatedly that he leaves that up to Dougie and Parish, but could you imagine Lampard or Dyche doing that? So many questions, so few answers!

taylors lovechild

13 May 21 10.41am

Originally posted by Spiderman

Edited by Spiderman (13 May 2021 9.24am)

It would be some statement if we made two transfers like that, but I also really can't see either of them a) wanting to come here, or b) not having better offers from the likes of West Ham, Everton, or even Arsenal. Of course this brings up the other question that being how much say any new manager would actually have over transfers. Roy has stated repeatedly that he leaves that up to Dougie and Parish, but could you imagine Lampard or Dyche doing that? So many questions, so few answers!

Putitout Oxford 13 May 21 10.50am
Looking at the age of many of this squad, and the number yet to sign a contract. The matter of who is going to be managing , is hardly our biggest worry. Surely the biggest problem going forward is how much do we have in the kitty, and how, and who do we spend it on, that is if we have any money. We can only hope we do have money, and save some more in big earners going, because as others have said, and is quiet frankly obvious , central defence ,and mid-field needs drastic up dating. Without it happening it’s hard to see who will want this job, and that includes Hodgson.

Putitout

Oxford 13 May 21 10.50am

Looking at the age of many of this squad, and the number yet to sign a contract. The matter of who is going to be managing , is hardly our biggest worry.
Surely the biggest problem going forward is how much do we have in the kitty, and how, and who do we spend it on, that is if we have any money.
We can only hope we do have money, and save some more in big earners going, because as others have said, and is quiet frankly obvious , central defence ,and mid-field needs drastic up dating. Without it happening it’s hard to see who will want this job, and that includes Hodgson.

thai-eagle chiang mai 13 May 21 11.34am
Lampard with his links to West Ham and Chelsea, joining that nuisance from South London - a big gamble and a big no from me. With Howe out of the picture, never thought I would say it, but of the remaining known candidates, Sean Dyche stands out for me. If Parish does not have a surprise card up in his sleeves, Lampard too much risk with so many (old) players on their way out. The Burnley gaffer might not be the most wow-like, but a very safe pair of hands.

thai-eagle

chiang mai 13 May 21 11.34am

Lampard with his links to West Ham and Chelsea, joining that nuisance from South London - a big gamble and a big no from me. With Howe out of the picture, never thought I would say it, but of the remaining known candidates, Sean Dyche stands out for me.
If Parish does not have a surprise card up in his sleeves, Lampard too much risk with so many (old) players on their way out.
The Burnley gaffer might not be the most wow-like, but a very safe pair of hands.

ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 13 May 21 11.38am
Originally posted by thai-eagle Lampard with his links to West Ham and Chelsea, joining that nuisance from South London - a big gamble and a big no from me. With Howe out of the picture, never thought I would say it, but of the remaining known candidates, Sean Dyche stands out for me. If Parish does not have a surprise card up in his sleeves, Lampard too much risk with so many (old) players on their way out. The Burnley gaffer might not be the most wow-like, but a very safe pair of hands. Apart from being a northerner, surely Dyche is the best candidate. I guess Frank will get Parish more TV time though. Red and Blue Army!

ASCPFC

Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 13 May 21 11.38am

Originally posted by thai-eagle

Apart from being a northerner, surely Dyche is the best candidate. I guess Frank will get Parish more TV time though.

Red and Blue Army!

AERO 13 May 21 11.58am
Lampard a risk yes ? But name me a manager who isn't ? Even with a big pot of"Gold"

AERO

13 May 21 11.58am

Lampard a risk yes ? But name me a manager who isn't ? Even with a big pot of"Gold"

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