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 matt_himself  Matataland 22 Jul 17 6.39am |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
If we had voted remain then yes. But, as it stands, we are obliged to pay our contracted dues but on exiting will not be eligible for the benefits commensurate with them as only members of the EU are. It is basically a divorce bill which we will have brought on ourselves so no point in disputing the final figure agreed and blaming the EU for it. It will be what we owe. I'm going for £55billion.
Not sure the monster raving Right will be happy with that. So that's better news then. Edited by Kermit8 (22 Jul 2017 12.21am) You live in a warped reality. Of course we must dispute the final Brexit bill, we have assets in the EU and any divorce settlement is contested. But the major point is that, just like you and your £55bn figure, any settlement amount is pulled out of the arse of the EU as a 'threat' to the UK. The fact that over the last week David Davis asked very detailed questions about the divorce settlement and got little back from Brussels says it all. They are fanciful numbers, Your fascist outlook is hardening. You are advocating accepting everything an unelected group tells our government to do. If that ain't fascism, I don't know what is.
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Kermit8  Hevon 22 Jul 17 8.41am |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
You live in a warped reality. Of course we must dispute the final Brexit bill, we have assets in the EU and any divorce settlement is contested. But the major point is that, just like you and your £55bn figure, any settlement amount is pulled out of the arse of the EU as a 'threat' to the UK. The fact that over the last week David Davis asked very detailed questions about the divorce settlement and got little back from Brussels says it all. They are fanciful numbers, Your fascist outlook is hardening. You are advocating accepting everything an unelected group tells our government to do. If that ain't fascism, I don't know what is. The 'agreed bill' I said. By both sides. So disputes over. Cheque in the post. And what if it is around £50bill? Or £20bill or £70bill. We will still have to pay. Gove's Pragmatic Brexit must be putting you off your breakfast. Too sensible to swallow compared to your self-destructive 'clean break' wish?
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 22 Jul 17 11.08am |
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Originally posted by europalace
"Bank of America picks Dublin for EU hub" "Citigroup has picked Frankfurt as the base for its EU trading operations, and reports say Morgan Stanley has also chosen the German financial centre." Nothing to do with low corporation tax and fears of a Peoples' Republic of Britain under Corbyn then.
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| matt_himself Matataland 22 Jul 17 11.55am |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
The 'agreed bill' I said. By both sides. So disputes over. Cheque in the post. And what if it is around £50bill? Or £20bill or £70bill. We will still have to pay. Gove's Pragmatic Brexit must be putting you off your breakfast. Too sensible to swallow compared to your self-destructive 'clean break' wish? I have said previously, something you have ignored because of your Fascist outlook, is that I have said the two year period was too short. I have said that a transition deal was the only practical manner in which I could see a clean break happening. With regards the 'agreed bill' that's not what was coming over from you. You view the divorce payment as some sort of sop we have to give to Brussels for having the temerity to use democracy in a way that damages the EU.
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| Rubin 22 Jul 17 12.41pm |
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Interesting comments from a German MEP:
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europalace  Europe 22 Jul 17 1.23pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
Interesting developments in Poland: Could they be stripped of EU voting rights for wanting judicial independence? Could the whole house of cards come tumbling down?
The only thing coming tumbling down is Sterling.
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| matt_himself Matataland 22 Jul 17 1.46pm |
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Originally posted by europalace
The only thing coming tumbling down is Sterling.
A few disagreements is a bit of an understatement. Poland is enacting law that would remove EU judicial control of its laws. Whether you respect my opinion or not, and frankly I couldn't care in the slightest either way as you have proven to be intellectual devoid, this is a significant matter. It undermines the whole ethos of the federalist project and highlights a schism between West and East EU countries. I have said this before and will say it again. Why, instead of trying to blunderbuss its project upon people, doesn't the unelected elite of the EU listen to what the citizenship wants? By and large that is an economic freetrade zone & co-operation on important matters such as security and energy. Sadly for the elite, the one size fits all approach simply doesn't work, ever with EU governance or the Euro. If it did, then the EU would have done the right thing and enacted political union years ago in order to underpin the Euro. As for your sterling comment, remind me, as I have asked previously, what are the economic pros and cons of a weakened currency?
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| legaleagle 22 Jul 17 1.50pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
Rumpole, we have seen language soften from the City leaving enmasse to the present situation of Brexit 'might' cause job losses. Could it be because the theories on the Remain side about the effects of Brexit are just that, theories? Of course they are theories at this point,though I would suggest somewhat more cogent theories than those on the Brexit side
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| matt_himself Matataland 22 Jul 17 1.54pm |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
Of course they are theories at this point,though I would suggest somewhat more cogent theories than those on the Brexit side Hmm...weren't we supposed to be living in a Bladerunner style apocalyptic vision of economic hell by now, according to prominent Remainers proclamations prior to June 23 last year? Not cogent, just politically fuelled bulls*** and you & your ilk lap it up and accuse the other side of fantasy.
"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02 |
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| europalace Europe 22 Jul 17 5.41pm |
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"UKIP loses control of its only council"
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 22 Jul 17 6.57pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
A few disagreements is a bit of an understatement. Poland is enacting law that would remove EU judicial control of its laws. Whether you respect my opinion or not, and frankly I couldn't care in the slightest either way as you have proven to be intellectual devoid, this is a significant matter. It undermines the whole ethos of the federalist project and highlights a schism between West and East EU countries. I have said this before and will say it again. Why, instead of trying to blunderbuss its project upon people, doesn't the unelected elite of the EU listen to what the citizenship wants? By and large that is an economic freetrade zone & co-operation on important matters such as security and energy. Sadly for the elite, the one size fits all approach simply doesn't work, ever with EU governance or the Euro. If it did, then the EU would have done the right thing and enacted political union years ago in order to underpin the Euro. As for your sterling comment, remind me, as I have asked previously, what are the economic pros and cons of a weakened currency?
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| Kermit8 Hevon 22 Jul 17 8.38pm |
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Originally posted by susmik
And I await your response to my offer of a face to face meet up which you have very carefully avoided for a few weeks now. Are you frightened to meet someone face to face or as I said are you just a keyboard warrior that hides away ???? You just want a free holiday to Malta
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| susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 23 Jul 17 1.32pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
You just want a free holiday to Malta Not at all I am trying to get the keyboard warrior to meet up with me on his own turf as I have friends who live there and could combine the meet up with visiting them also. Trouble is that Europalace is just keen on having a go at one and all of us on the Holmesdale through his keyboard but is not man enough to face to face discussion which makes me think he is full of bullsh1t and a wimp. As for his yacht and pink Gins he spouts about all the time I think he has an affliction of some sort which maybe just maybe a face to face meet up might help him with a cure for it.
Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky. |
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