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 ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 30 Sep 19 5.20pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
After being carded over this guy I think I'll go into retirement for a while. Sod this for a lark. I enjoy your posts. Anyway, if you're not posting here the missus will have you working around the house.
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palace_in_frogland  In a broken dream 30 Sep 19 6.40pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
After being carded over this guy I think I'll go into retirement for a while. Sod this for a lark. Nil illegitimi carborundum. Hang in there mate.
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Midlands Eagle  30 Sep 19 7.24pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
The BBC and SKY doing their best to undermine the Tory conference with unsubstantiated accusations that just happen to have appeared right before a coming election. The BBC reporters seemed to be wetting themselves at having something more salacious than a boring Tory Party Conference to try and get their teeth into. Not only did these allegations appear at a very opportune time for opponents of Boris Johnson / Brexit / Conservative Party but this is supposed to have happened 20 years ago. Perhaps it slipped her memory until now
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Sep 19 7.48pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
The BBC reporters seemed to be wetting themselves at having something more salacious than a boring Tory Party Conference to try and get their teeth into. Not only did these allegations appear at a very opportune time for opponents of Boris Johnson / Brexit / Conservative Party but this is supposed to have happened 20 years ago. Perhaps it slipped her memory until now It isn't just the BBC though is it? All the media seem to be all over it. I also though find it distasteful and distracting. We need to concentrate on policy and not personality. There is quite enough that's wrong with the policy without having to resort to this. It dilutes the value of the serious criticism in my view. I oppose the direction of this government and I don't want Johnson being seen as a martyr for being attacked for his personal life. I condemn this type of political dirty trick from wherever it comes.
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| .TUX. 30 Sep 19 8.07pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
The BBC and SKY doing their best to undermine the Tory conference with unsubstantiated accusations that just happen to have appeared right before a coming election. Our media needs to be regulated better. To the globalists that have heaped these problems upon us all, it's doing fine thankyou very much. Job done. PS............Trump facing similar. For the record I don't believe in coincidences. Edited by .TUX. (30 Sep 2019 8.11pm)
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cryrst  The garden of England 30 Sep 19 8.29pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
The BBC reporters seemed to be wetting themselves at having something more salacious than a boring Tory Party Conference to try and get their teeth into. Not only did these allegations appear at a very opportune time for opponents of Boris Johnson / Brexit / Conservative Party but this is supposed to have happened 20 years ago. Perhaps it slipped her memory until now According to that divvy woman on LBC he molested the poor girl.
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| W12 30 Sep 19 8.42pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
According to that divvy woman on LBC he molested the poor girl. He might have touched her knee......20 years ago.....according to her....#METOO Meanwhile Cummings wife said it’s bollocks that it happened to her as suggested and this means she was “forced to deny” according to the BBC Dirty, dirty, smear merchants.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 30 Sep 19 9.14pm |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
To the globalists that have heaped these problems upon us all, it's doing fine thankyou very much. Job done. PS............Trump facing similar. For the record I don't believe in coincidences. Edited by .TUX. (30 Sep 2019 8.11pm) I suppose there is more than one sucker born every minute. Some idiot will always fall for this stuff.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Sep 19 9.54pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Please go and join them. I'm sure they would all love to hear your endless repetitive drivel. No need. My opinions,from all I have seen, are already well represented there, so for me to add any more would be pointless. They are much more needed here. So, not for the first time, you seem to have missed the point.
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| .TUX. 30 Sep 19 9.59pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I suppose there is more than one sucker born every minute. Some idiot will always fall for this stuff. ?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Sep 19 10.07pm |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
To the globalists that have heaped these problems upon us all, it's doing fine thankyou very much. Job done. PS............Trump facing similar. For the record I don't believe in coincidences. Edited by .TUX. (30 Sep 2019 8.11pm) I agree. I don't believe in coincidences either. The coincidence I see is the emergence of Johnson and his tactics so soon after Trump and his tactics. Only the gullible think they aren't related. The "globalists" by the way are a completely mythical bogeyman. Much like the "deep state" and other inventions of the populists. Globalism is just a fact of life and all the more important given that the problems we face need widespread international co-operation.
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| dannyboy1978 30 Sep 19 10.22pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
The BBC reporters seemed to be wetting themselves at having something more salacious than a boring Tory Party Conference to try and get their teeth into. Not only did these allegations appear at a very opportune time for opponents of Boris Johnson / Brexit / Conservative Party but this is supposed to have happened 20 years ago. Perhaps it slipped her memory until now So agree, I was going to vote for the brexit party but this under hand tactics from the left on borris has changed my vote to conservative
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| .TUX. 30 Sep 19 10.26pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I agree. I don't believe in coincidences either. The coincidence I see is the emergence of Johnson and his tactics so soon after Trump and his tactics. Only the gullible think they aren't related. The "globalists" by the way are a completely mythical bogeyman. Much like the "deep state" and other inventions of the populists. Globalism is just a fact of life and all the more important given that the problems we face need widespread international co-operation. They exist. If you care so much about your grandchildren then open your f***ing eyes.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Sep 19 10.45pm |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
They exist. If you care so much about your grandchildren then open your f***ing eyes.
Perhaps you would like to identify just who they are, how they are organised and how, in today's world there aren't any leaks from whistle blowers? You cannot turn back the tide of history. We now live in a global economy in which the exchange of information is instantaneous and the transfer of goods often not much longer. We need to live within that fact and learn how to benefit from it, rather than just complain about it.
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| cryrst The garden of England 30 Sep 19 11.11pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I agree. I don't believe in coincidences either. The coincidence I see is the emergence of Johnson and his tactics so soon after Trump and his tactics. Only the gullible think they aren't related. The "globalists" by the way are a completely mythical bogeyman. Much like the "deep state" and other inventions of the populists. Globalism is just a fact of life and all the more important given that the problems we face need widespread international co-operation. Related?
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| .TUX. 30 Sep 19 11.30pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Perhaps you would like to identify just who they are, how they are organised and how, in today's world there aren't any leaks from whistle blowers? You cannot turn back the tide of history. We now live in a global economy in which the exchange of information is instantaneous and the transfer of goods often not much longer. We need to live within that fact and learn how to benefit from it, rather than just complain about it. Neither you or i will ever see who 'they' are. Recent history shows us that regardless of Red or Blue being in power (pfft) things only get worse.........more hrs spent at work coupled with ever increasing borrowing from the future to pay for today (DEBT!). You haven't got a clue why globalism was ever a deliberate stance forced upon us all and you never will.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Sep 19 11.38pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Related?
Trump follows the same pattern without variation. Never apologise. If attacked, attack the attacker, personally and relentlessly. Find scapegoats to blame. Keep the attention on the scapegoats, because that way you don't have to defend, or even have, your own policies. We are seeing much the same from Johnson. Not I suspect because that is his plan, but that it is the plan devised by his "advisers", who themselves have seen that Trump's approach works. What we are witnessing is our political life being relegated to being treated as a commodity and subjected to marketing techniques, so it can be sold to gullible consumers. I have little doubt that phrases like "surrender act" have been tested in focus groups for effectiveness and then the Cabinet instructed to use and defend them on pain of them losing their jobs. How long they will suffer this humiliation is an open question.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Sep 19 11.48pm |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
Neither you or i will ever see who 'they' are. Recent history shows us that regardless of Red or Blue being in power (pfft) things only get worse.........more hrs spent at work coupled with ever increasing borrowing from the future to pay for today (DEBT!). You haven't got a clue why globalism was ever a deliberate stance forced upon us all and you never will.
So they are some shadowy group we will never be able to identify, but exist somewhere and control us all? To what end exactly? Sounds suspiciously like a conspiracy theory to me. No-one denies that the challenges globalisation produces aren't real. Our debts are higher and we need to adjust both what we do, how we do it, and what our expectations ought to be. That though doesn't mean there is a conspiracy behind it. A whole world view is essential going forward. Looking backwards will achieve nothing but reminiscences, and you cannot take them to the bank. That we would be better doing this together with our partners in the EU, rather than alone, seems obvious to me. This isn't 1919. This is 2019.
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| .TUX. 01 Oct 19 12.16am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
So they are some shadowy group we will never be able to identify, but exist somewhere and control us all? To what end exactly? Sounds suspiciously like a conspiracy theory to me. No-one denies that the challenges globalisation produces aren't real. Our debts are higher and we need to adjust both what we do, how we do it, and what our expectations ought to be. That though doesn't mean there is a conspiracy behind it. A whole world view is essential going forward. Looking backwards will achieve nothing but reminiscences, and you cannot take them to the bank. That we would be better doing this together with our partners in the EU, rather than alone, seems obvious to me. This isn't 1919. This is 2019. Now reply to the things that matter, the points you swerved. The explanation to your grand children?
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