Cameron is only going to get more and more desperate as the vote approaches. He knows his position as leader will be untenable if the public vote Leave, and there will be a political scrum as leading Tories try to position themselves as successor.

Cameron gambled- by pushing hard for the Remain camp, he knew a Remain vote would have sunk Boris and IDS (politically), but the Remain vote looked a lot safer months ago when first announced...

I'm actually in the Remain camp, but neither camp has really done a great job getting it's message across. Looking forward to the political mayhem that will result whatever the outcome!

Perhaps when this blo@dy war is over Hoof and the borders are reopened in say 40 years time we could meet at one of those memorial arches, remembering fallen comrades and wondering at the futility of it all...
Over here we are busy applauding (nay laughing) at the honesty of cucking for his admission that he would like a return to colonialisation...he must be a good bloke to have around when the bombs start falling....we dont know about that willo fellow tho. Despite constant reports that he can see the rational and obvious benefits of the remain campaign he insists LOUDLY he will vote leave. TBH we dont want him on our side Hoof, sounds like one of those unpopular types that deliberately takes the controversial and limited argument to provoke a bit of controversy ....perhaps it makes him feel more important than he is. We have enough trouble over here with those liberal beatnik peace and prosperity types ....going on about their 'enhanced life opportunities' and bottles of shiraz they will be enjoying if we remain. Get real i tell em, we are at war...there goes another blunder by one of our generals...Good day to you Hoof...

Billion wasn't it?

Optimistic as ever

You definitely sound like you are wavering to me Danny, c'mon over, you will be much more prosperous, liberated and safe....plus there are lots of good lads over here: kermit, bigpalacefan and lankygit to name but a few

Thank you for your honesty on this one Cucking, it is quite refreshing compared to the denials over the threat to the economy, financial markets, security, household prosperity and trade. You do not need to understand rational expectations theory to form the view that all would be significantly worse off (although admitedly we dont know exactly by how much) in thd event if brexit.
But to bring us back to the days of empire would drag us back into arguably the 2nd worse crime in human history -colonialism (2nd only to the slave trade). Didnt Churchill also say that "history will be kind to me because i intend to write it"....although i should comment here that his leadership in ww2 to defeat the nazis was truly commendable. But the fact that he inherited a colonial empire taints the big picture. The nazis actually used Churchill as to how they were under threat from imperialism and that the British felt they should be the only ones to shoulder the burden of wealth and prosperity. They reminded people that it was the British that invented concentration camps during the Boer war and in one film - Ohm Kruger, showed a concentration camp where Churchill was the commendant where 26000 woman and children were slaughtered. Under competing colonial empires, with little or no trade interdependency, diplomacy and indeed economic stagnation and decline, tensions inevitably sparked ww1. They called if the great war, that would end all wars, and 'lest we forget'
Buf within a measly 20 years , barely a generation, the far right of europe (including the Uk's Oswold Mosely) were in the ascendency. Finally Mussolini's italy withdrew from the league of nations and ww2 began.
I for one, am very wary of right wing nationslism. It really only serves individual political interest and is really very dangerous. When David Cameron warns of increased risk of war alongside the head of mi6 saying security will be compromised, i for 1 take them seriously. Whilst i dont see a conflict happening in thd event of brexit, i also wont forget the lessons of history - and that after both world wars said never again...

You have surpassed yourself here Cucking!

Will you commence the reclamation of Empire by leading a one person re-invasion of Mesopotamia (Iraq) to reactivate the mandate,start a new opium War in China to get back the "treaty port" of Shanghai ,or perhaps hide in a container of tea headed for Boston to sort those damn uppity Yankees out?

We've just been told we can't make people work for benefits

Wasn't that because we'd changed how we measured capital and decided to include black market income against the economic growth (which made them look great) but then got shirty when it was time to pay 'the dues'.

Its like people who engage in tax avoidance, and then complain about public services....

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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In 40 years I will be but a faded memory to my nephews and nieces who will still be benefiting from my estate hopefully.

I am fast approaching 62 and have Parkinson's and Diabetes.

I doubt that I'll get to see Corbyn's nose rubbed in it, in 2020.

I'm hoping that I'll have seen Palace win the FA Cup though!

Take care Johnny.

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No, we have to include the black market due to EU rules because other countries, like Germany, have taxed prostitution as the Netherlands has taxed drugs. They claim it's not fair so everyone else has to guesstimate a black market economy which is then added to GDP figures etc. which they then use to work out who should contribute what to the EU budget.

The real reason we had to pay more is below.

Optimistic as ever