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Stirlingsays 01 Aug 23 3.30pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC When you say sticking to his guns, I presume you meant knives in a London context. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

01 Aug 23 3.30pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

When you say sticking to his guns, I presume you meant knives in a London context.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays 01 Aug 23 3.32pm
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio why do so many Lefties give us a morality lecture. And then, they themselves drive nice cars, fly to nice destinations and live a nice rich lifestyle ? Because live as I say and not live as I do. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

01 Aug 23 3.32pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

why do so many Lefties give us a morality lecture.

And then, they themselves drive nice cars, fly to nice destinations and live a nice rich lifestyle ?

Because live as I say and not live as I do.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Teddy Eagle 01 Aug 23 4.14pm
Originally posted by eagleman13 I can't find which newspaper it's from or any link, so i copied this from FB. I forgot to add, its about that 'ethnic minorities' will be exempt from the ULEZ charge . . . Edited by eagleman13 (01 Aug 2023 3.10pm) Even by his standards that's a good one. As we used to say - more front than Gamages.

Teddy Eagle

01 Aug 23 4.14pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

I can't find which newspaper it's from or any link, so i copied this from FB. I forgot to add, its about that 'ethnic minorities' will be exempt from the ULEZ charge . . .

Edited by eagleman13 (01 Aug 2023 3.10pm)

Even by his standards that's a good one. As we used to say - more front than Gamages.

ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 01 Aug 23 4.23pm
[Link] Khan doing his bit for EU relations Red and Blue Army!

ASCPFC

Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 01 Aug 23 4.23pm

[Link]

Khan doing his bit for EU relations

Red and Blue Army!

steeleye20 Croydon 01 Aug 23 4.29pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC [Link] Khan doing his bit for EU relations Apparently TfL are refunding where the vehicle is compliant. I'm not sorry I don't have a car anymore.

steeleye20

Croydon 01 Aug 23 4.29pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

[Link]

Khan doing his bit for EU relations

Apparently TfL are refunding where the vehicle is compliant.

I'm not sorry I don't have a car anymore.

Spiderman Horsham 01 Aug 23 5.27pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Apparently TfL are refunding where the vehicle is compliant. I'm not sorry I don't have a car anymore. Aren’t you the lucky one! No wonder you support this scheme…. tough luck on those who can’t afford newish cars, eh?

Spiderman

Horsham 01 Aug 23 5.27pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Apparently TfL are refunding where the vehicle is compliant.

I'm not sorry I don't have a car anymore.

Aren’t you the lucky one! No wonder you support this scheme…. tough luck on those who can’t afford newish cars, eh?

cryrst The garden of England 01 Aug 23 6.04pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Apparently TfL are refunding where the vehicle is compliant. I'm not sorry I don't have a car anymore. But you have a hotel with gas boilers and kitchens though I may be so bold as to presume !

cryrst

The garden of England 01 Aug 23 6.04pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Apparently TfL are refunding where the vehicle is compliant.

I'm not sorry I don't have a car anymore.

But you have a hotel with gas boilers and kitchens though I may be so bold as to presume !

cryrst The garden of England 01 Aug 23 6.07pm
Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow I mean that's probably because that data doesn't exist. It does exist if you look and are actually interested but sadly cancel culture has slowly erased the counter argument. That being data that would disprove the climate bollo x with facts not emotion!

cryrst

The garden of England 01 Aug 23 6.07pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

I mean that's probably because that data doesn't exist.

It does exist if you look and are actually interested but sadly cancel culture has slowly erased the counter argument. That being data that would disprove the climate bollo x with facts not emotion!

EverybodyDannsNow SE19 03 Aug 23 12.28pm
Originally posted by cryrst It does exist if you look and are actually interested but sadly cancel culture has slowly erased the counter argument. That being data that would disprove the climate bollo x with facts not emotion! Can you point me in the direction of this data that would disprove the climate bollox? To be clear, the opposition to ULEZ is not because people don't believe in climate change, it's because they don't think it should be the taxpayer footing the bill, which is an entirely different argument. I'm not sure how you are accusing others of dealing with emotions, not facts, when you're very obviously the one arguing against the facts. If that's your position, fair enough, but don't pretend the facts or data support it.

EverybodyDannsNow

SE19 03 Aug 23 12.28pm

Originally posted by cryrst

It does exist if you look and are actually interested but sadly cancel culture has slowly erased the counter argument. That being data that would disprove the climate bollo x with facts not emotion!

Can you point me in the direction of this data that would disprove the climate bollox?

To be clear, the opposition to ULEZ is not because people don't believe in climate change, it's because they don't think it should be the taxpayer footing the bill, which is an entirely different argument.

I'm not sure how you are accusing others of dealing with emotions, not facts, when you're very obviously the one arguing against the facts.

If that's your position, fair enough, but don't pretend the facts or data support it.

EverybodyDannsNow SE19 03 Aug 23 12.41pm
Originally posted by Spiderman Aren’t you the lucky one! No wonder you support this scheme…. tough luck on those who can’t afford newish cars, eh? A bit of context here that the majority of Londoners support the expansion; [Link] The number of people who are actually going to be impacted by it (ie. people who have non-compliant cars) is being grossly exaggerated, wilfully, because it's an easy stick to beat Labour with at the moment - this expansion has no effect on the vast, vast majority of the country, or indeed Londoners, but it's been easy enough for our wonderful unbiased media to make it the biggest talking point in politics currently. Starmer/Labour have made an absolute pigs ear of their positioning on this, as they do with everything at the moment, and the Tory media have done their job in getting everyone unduly outraged about it, despite it not even being a Labour policy and despite it not affecting most people. You could point to plenty of Tory policies and actions over the last few years which have had a considerably bigger impact on the average person's finances, but haven't caused even half of much outrage - funny that.

EverybodyDannsNow

SE19 03 Aug 23 12.41pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Aren’t you the lucky one! No wonder you support this scheme…. tough luck on those who can’t afford newish cars, eh?

A bit of context here that the majority of Londoners support the expansion; [Link]

The number of people who are actually going to be impacted by it (ie. people who have non-compliant cars) is being grossly exaggerated, wilfully, because it's an easy stick to beat Labour with at the moment - this expansion has no effect on the vast, vast majority of the country, or indeed Londoners, but it's been easy enough for our wonderful unbiased media to make it the biggest talking point in politics currently.

Starmer/Labour have made an absolute pigs ear of their positioning on this, as they do with everything at the moment, and the Tory media have done their job in getting everyone unduly outraged about it, despite it not even being a Labour policy and despite it not affecting most people.

You could point to plenty of Tory policies and actions over the last few years which have had a considerably bigger impact on the average person's finances, but haven't caused even half of much outrage - funny that.

Apollofuzz On the edge of reason 03 Aug 23 3.50pm
So if there is only a small number of non compliant cars how will charginging them to enter the zone reduce emissions? What happens when there are no more non compliant cars? will they remove the camaras or move the goalposts? Also people who live just outside the zone with poor transport links, have had no say in the scheme nor qualify for the scrappage scheme. Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow A bit of context here that the majority of Londoners support the expansion; [Link] The number of people who are actually going to be impacted by it (ie. people who have non-compliant cars) is being grossly exaggerated, wilfully, because it's an easy stick to beat Labour with at the moment - this expansion has no effect on the vast, vast majority of the country, or indeed Londoners, but it's been easy enough for our wonderful unbiased media to make it the biggest talking point in politics currently. Starmer/Labour have made an absolute pigs ear of their positioning on this, as they do with everything at the moment, and the Tory media have done their job in getting everyone unduly outraged about it, despite it not even being a Labour policy and despite it not affecting most people. You could point to plenty of Tory policies and actions over the last few years which have had a considerably bigger impact on the average person's finances, but haven't caused even half of much outrage - funny that. I ride a GS scooter with my hair cut neat I wear my war time coat in the wind and sleet.

Apollofuzz

On the edge of reason 03 Aug 23 3.50pm

So if there is only a small number of non compliant cars how will charginging them to enter the zone reduce emissions?

What happens when there are no more non compliant cars? will they remove the camaras or move the goalposts?

Also people who live just outside the zone with poor transport links, have had no say in the scheme nor qualify for the scrappage scheme.

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

A bit of context here that the majority of Londoners support the expansion; [Link]

I ride a GS scooter with my hair cut neat
I wear my war time coat in the wind and sleet.

EverybodyDannsNow SE19 03 Aug 23 5.25pm
Originally posted by Apollofuzz So if there is only a small number of non compliant cars how will charginging them to enter the zone reduce emissions? What happens when there are no more non compliant cars? will they remove the camaras or move the goalposts? Also people who live just outside the zone with poor transport links, have had no say in the scheme nor qualify for the scrappage scheme. The data relating to ULEZ’s efficacy in terms of improving air quality is in the link I sent previously. I have no idea what happens further down the line - it will depend who’s in power at the time. Sure, you could argue those people are a little hard done by.

EverybodyDannsNow

SE19 03 Aug 23 5.25pm

Originally posted by Apollofuzz

So if there is only a small number of non compliant cars how will charginging them to enter the zone reduce emissions?

What happens when there are no more non compliant cars? will they remove the camaras or move the goalposts?

Also people who live just outside the zone with poor transport links, have had no say in the scheme nor qualify for the scrappage scheme.

The data relating to ULEZ’s efficacy in terms of improving air quality is in the link I sent previously.

I have no idea what happens further down the line - it will depend who’s in power at the time.

Sure, you could argue those people are a little hard done by.

eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 03 Aug 23 5.44pm
Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow The data relating to ULEZ’s efficacy in terms of improving air quality is in the link I sent previously. I have no idea what happens further down the line - it will depend who’s in power at the time. Sure, you could argue those people are a little hard done by. This has nothing to do with 'air quality', its all about more tax on the motorist. How is £12.50 going to improve the air quality? Its not, its just another tax by some t*** who needs to be got rid of pdq. this is nothing to do with party politics its just another tax on the motorist. Forget your data, its tax nothing more nothing less, tax. BTW, what do you say about the fact that Muslims, Jews, Hindus & Sikhs will NOT have to pay the ULEZ tax if they're going to pray? What about the Christians, Catholics, Baptists, Anglicans etc, why do they have to pay to go & pray? Edited by eagleman13 (03 Aug 2023 5.51pm) This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

eagleman13

On The Road To Hell & Alicante 03 Aug 23 5.44pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

The data relating to ULEZ’s efficacy in terms of improving air quality is in the link I sent previously.

I have no idea what happens further down the line - it will depend who’s in power at the time.

Sure, you could argue those people are a little hard done by.

This has nothing to do with 'air quality', its all about more tax on the motorist. How is £12.50 going to improve the air quality? Its not, its just another tax by some t*** who needs to be got rid of pdq. this is nothing to do with party politics its just another tax on the motorist. Forget your data, its tax nothing more nothing less, tax.

BTW, what do you say about the fact that Muslims, Jews, Hindus & Sikhs will NOT have to pay the ULEZ tax if they're going to pray? What about the Christians, Catholics, Baptists, Anglicans etc, why do they have to pay to go & pray?

Edited by eagleman13 (03 Aug 2023 5.51pm)

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

cryrst The garden of England 03 Aug 23 5.59pm
Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow The data relating to ULEZ’s efficacy in terms of improving air quality is in the link I sent previously. I have no idea what happens further down the line - it will depend who’s in power at the time. Sure, you could argue those people are a little hard done by. Basically I could have a 30 year old 6 litre diesel pumping tons of co2 but if I pay the charge it doesn’t matter. That clearly doesn’t help but I can afford it. Can you square that circle.

cryrst

The garden of England 03 Aug 23 5.59pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

The data relating to ULEZ’s efficacy in terms of improving air quality is in the link I sent previously.

I have no idea what happens further down the line - it will depend who’s in power at the time.

Sure, you could argue those people are a little hard done by.

Basically I could have a 30 year old 6 litre diesel pumping tons of co2 but if I pay the charge it doesn’t matter. That clearly doesn’t help but I can afford it. Can you square that circle.

Spiderman Horsham 03 Aug 23 6.19pm
Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow A bit of context here that the majority of Londoners support the expansion; [Link] The number of people who are actually going to be impacted by it (ie. people who have non-compliant cars) is being grossly exaggerated, wilfully, because it's an easy stick to beat Labour with at the moment - this expansion has no effect on the vast, vast majority of the country, or indeed Londoners, but it's been easy enough for our wonderful unbiased media to make it the biggest talking point in politics currently. Starmer/Labour have made an absolute pigs ear of their positioning on this, as they do with everything at the moment, and the Tory media have done their job in getting everyone unduly outraged about it, despite it not even being a Labour policy and despite it not affecting most people. You could point to plenty of Tory policies and actions over the last few years which have had a considerably bigger impact on the average person's finances, but haven't caused even half of much outrage - funny that. My post was having a dig at Steeley’s “I’m alright Jack” post. For someone of his political persuasion, he seems to have dismissed the fact this could adversely affect the worse off. Bit of whataboutery in your last paragraph? I know you like that expression

Spiderman

Horsham 03 Aug 23 6.19pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

A bit of context here that the majority of Londoners support the expansion; [Link]

My post was having a dig at Steeley’s “I’m alright Jack” post. For someone of his political persuasion, he seems to have dismissed the fact this could adversely affect the worse off.
Bit of whataboutery in your last paragraph? I know you like that expression

Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 03 Aug 23 6.23pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Even by his standards that's a good one. As we used to say - more front than Gamages. TE, I have tried to find this exemption on the TFL website, but I couldn’t see that there was an exemption for religious visits. The article may be spoof but I will remain on alert for any definite evidence of such conditions. As an aside people driving into London from outside will be impacted if they have a non compliant and I’m not sure if tfl have the data on that. hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

Behind Enemy Lines

Sussex 03 Aug 23 6.23pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Even by his standards that's a good one. As we used to say - more front than Gamages.

TE, I have tried to find this exemption on the TFL website, but I couldn’t see that there was an exemption for religious visits. The article may be spoof but I will remain on alert for any definite evidence of such conditions.
As an aside people driving into London from outside will be impacted if they have a non compliant and I’m not sure if tfl have the data on that.

hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

Teddy Eagle 03 Aug 23 6.31pm
Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines TE, I have tried to find this exemption on the TFL website, but I couldn’t see that there was an exemption for religious visits. The article may be spoof but I will remain on alert for any definite evidence of such conditions. As an aside people driving into London from outside will be impacted if they have a non compliant and I’m not sure if tfl have the data on that. You're right of course, it may well be a spoof item but that presents its own problem in that we live in a time when almost anything sounds credible. I suppose I should add "if you want it to" but nevertheless it remains the case.

Teddy Eagle

03 Aug 23 6.31pm

Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines

You're right of course, it may well be a spoof item but that presents its own problem in that we live in a time when almost anything sounds credible. I suppose I should add "if you want it to" but nevertheless it remains the case.

Badger11 Beckenham 03 Aug 23 6.50pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle You're right of course, it may well be a spoof item but that presents its own problem in that we live in a time when almost anything sounds credible. I suppose I should add "if you want it to" but nevertheless it remains the case. Guardian says it is fake [Link] Mind you I hear he is considering giving an exemption to anyone who goes to Friday prayers. Edited by Badger11 (03 Aug 2023 6.52pm) Edited by Badger11 (03 Aug 2023 6.52pm) One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 03 Aug 23 6.50pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Guardian says it is fake

[Link]

Mind you I hear he is considering giving an exemption to anyone who goes to Friday prayers.

Edited by Badger11 (03 Aug 2023 6.52pm)

One more point

Stirlingsays 03 Aug 23 7.12pm
Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow A bit of context here that the majority of Londoners support the expansion; [Link] The number of people who are actually going to be impacted by it (ie. people who have non-compliant cars) is being grossly exaggerated, wilfully, because it's an easy stick to beat Labour with at the moment - this expansion has no effect on the vast, vast majority of the country, or indeed Londoners, but it's been easy enough for our wonderful unbiased media to make it the biggest talking point in politics currently. Starmer/Labour have made an absolute pigs ear of their positioning on this, as they do with everything at the moment, and the Tory media have done their job in getting everyone unduly outraged about it, despite it not even being a Labour policy and despite it not affecting most people. You could point to plenty of Tory policies and actions over the last few years which have had a considerably bigger impact on the average person's finances, but haven't caused even half of much outrage - funny that. Supported all the lockdowns but actually wanted them to go on further and deeper. Starmer lies everytime he opens his mouth....presented as left to get elected to the leadership and presents as right to win the general election....zero integrity. Supported all the Ukraine stuff that's led to a cold war and puts our energy prices in uncertainty for the future.....come our contract being up in Norway what chance have we in getting cheaper bills then.....feck all. Supports all the same fantasy green targets. Yeah, Labour.....really good for the normal guy's pocket they are....Not. Absolute shower the lot of them. Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Aug 2023 7.15pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

03 Aug 23 7.12pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

A bit of context here that the majority of Londoners support the expansion; [Link]

You could point to plenty of Tory policies and actions over the last few years which have had a considerably bigger impact on the average person's finances, but haven't caused even half of much outrage - funny that.

Supported all the lockdowns but actually wanted them to go on further and deeper.

Starmer lies everytime he opens his mouth....presented as left to get elected to the leadership and presents as right to win the general election....zero integrity.

Supported all the Ukraine stuff that's led to a cold war and puts our energy prices in uncertainty for the future.....come our contract being up in Norway what chance have we in getting cheaper bills then.....feck all.

Supports all the same fantasy green targets.

Yeah, Labour.....really good for the normal guy's pocket they are....Not.

Absolute shower the lot of them.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Aug 2023 7.15pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Eaglecoops CR3 04 Aug 23 7.48am
The ULEZ expansion has nothing to do with air quality. Why would you spend £160m + on a network of cameras that are only there to pick up on a very small minority of cars travelling through the area. The camera network is of course the pre cursor to a pay per mile scheme for all cars that will undoubtedly be introduced within the next 5-10 years. It won’t matter if you have an electric or hydrogen car, you will eventually be charged to travel everywhere in the new ULEZ area. If this sounds far fetched then check out the jobs pages for TFL and they are already looking for staff to be involved in designing and implementing such a scheme. All the other bluster about charging the occasional aged car for a journey through the zone is just a weak cover for what is to come. We have decided to move further south and get away from it. Hopefully the Sussex countryside won’t be pay per mile before I pop me clogs.

Eaglecoops

CR3 04 Aug 23 7.48am

The ULEZ expansion has nothing to do with air quality. Why would you spend £160m + on a network of cameras that are only there to pick up on a very small minority of cars travelling through the area.

The camera network is of course the pre cursor to a pay per mile scheme for all cars that will undoubtedly be introduced within the next 5-10 years. It won’t matter if you have an electric or hydrogen car, you will eventually be charged to travel everywhere in the new ULEZ area.

If this sounds far fetched then check out the jobs pages for TFL and they are already looking for staff to be involved in designing and implementing such a scheme.

All the other bluster about charging the occasional aged car for a journey through the zone is just a weak cover for what is to come.

We have decided to move further south and get away from it. Hopefully the Sussex countryside won’t be pay per mile before I pop me clogs.

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