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Stirlingsays 17 Oct 17 4.06pm
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle [Link] Remain may have spent more an appropriate and disclosed manner. Leave's spending was extremely shadowy. This article discusses just some of the subversion of the "marketplace of ideas". Ideologies are more than just an "idea". I'll read it tonight.....but if I'm going to start reading your stuff you have to promise to read my stuff. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

17 Oct 17 4.06pm

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

[Link]

Remain may have spent more an appropriate and disclosed manner.

Leave's spending was extremely shadowy.

This article discusses just some of the subversion of the "marketplace of ideas".

Ideologies are more than just an "idea".

I'll read it tonight.....but if I'm going to start reading your stuff you have to promise to read my stuff.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 17 Oct 17 4.08pm
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle Still not actually responding to any points or contributing to the debate I see. You quote so much cr@p and are so long winded in your replies in all honesty I think you read most of the stuff you write in labour loving papers and media. I really do think you need to calm down and listen to some of the other Brexit voters as I do and you COULD learn a lot. Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

susmik

PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 17 Oct 17 4.08pm

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

Still not actually responding to any points or contributing to the debate I see.

You quote so much cr@p and are so long winded in your replies in all honesty I think you read most of the stuff you write in labour loving papers and media. I really do think you need to calm down and listen to some of the other Brexit voters as I do and you COULD learn a lot.

Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

Hrolf The Ganger 17 Oct 17 4.16pm
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle [Link] Remain may have spent more an appropriate and disclosed manner. Leave's spending was extremely shadowy. This article discusses just some of the subversion of the "marketplace of ideas". Ideologies are more than just an "idea". Are you sure? Ideas maybe. Ideals possibly but no more.

Hrolf The Ganger

17 Oct 17 4.16pm

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

[Link]

Remain may have spent more an appropriate and disclosed manner.

Leave's spending was extremely shadowy.

This article discusses just some of the subversion of the "marketplace of ideas".

Ideologies are more than just an "idea".

Are you sure? Ideas maybe. Ideals possibly but no more.

elgrande bedford 17 Oct 17 4.29pm
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle Spoken like a true Lexiteer. What??? always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

elgrande

bedford 17 Oct 17 4.29pm

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

Spoken like a true Lexiteer.

What???

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

CambridgeEagle Sydenham 17 Oct 17 5.01pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I'll read it tonight.....but if I'm going to start reading your stuff you have to promise to read my stuff. Sure thing

CambridgeEagle

Sydenham 17 Oct 17 5.01pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I'll read it tonight.....but if I'm going to start reading your stuff you have to promise to read my stuff.

Sure thing

CambridgeEagle Sydenham 17 Oct 17 5.04pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Are you sure? Ideas maybe. Ideals possibly but no more. I'd say an ideology was a system of ideas/ideals that underpin political and economic policy. How they interact and how they are proposed to be delivered is quite important I think.

CambridgeEagle

Sydenham 17 Oct 17 5.04pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Are you sure? Ideas maybe. Ideals possibly but no more.

I'd say an ideology was a system of ideas/ideals that underpin political and economic policy. How they interact and how they are proposed to be delivered is quite important I think.

CambridgeEagle Sydenham 17 Oct 17 5.05pm
Originally posted by elgrande What??? Thinktanks and committees representing vested corporate interests is one of the main reasons why the Kate Hoeys of this world wanted out.

CambridgeEagle

Sydenham 17 Oct 17 5.05pm

Originally posted by elgrande

What???

Thinktanks and committees representing vested corporate interests is one of the main reasons why the Kate Hoeys of this world wanted out.

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 17 Oct 17 5.45pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 Why is it disgusting? Communists use concentration camps to kill their opponents. It is a valid reference. You know what was disgusting. Your use of the phrase 'final solution'

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 17 Oct 17 5.45pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Why is it disgusting? Communists use concentration camps to kill their opponents. It is a valid reference.

You know what was disgusting. Your use of the phrase 'final solution'

Stirlingsays 17 Oct 17 6.34pm
Originally posted by nickgusset You know what was disgusting. Your use of the phrase 'final solution' So only Labour can use that phrase then? You know that he was referencing your tone. You are the only one on here who has sanctioned non state political violence in your support of antifa.....Even your mate Kermit went quiet on them eventually. You condemned people as pro fascist for not supporting them. Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Oct 2017 6.35pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

17 Oct 17 6.34pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

You know what was disgusting. Your use of the phrase 'final solution'

So only Labour can use that phrase then?

You know that he was referencing your tone.

You are the only one on here who has sanctioned non state political violence in your support of antifa.....Even your mate Kermit went quiet on them eventually.

You condemned people as pro fascist for not supporting them.

Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Oct 2017 6.35pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

hedgehog50 Croydon 17 Oct 17 6.37pm
Originally posted by nickgusset You know what was disgusting. Your use of the phrase 'final solution' You said: "Yes defeat fascism by any means necessary". Presumably you would not rule out the use of concentration camps for those you consider fascists then? I deliberately used the phrase 'final solution' as communists have used concentration camps to eliminate their opponents. Why do you consider the comparison 'disgusting'. Do you dispute the fact that communists have their own versions of the 'final solution'? We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50

Croydon 17 Oct 17 6.37pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

You know what was disgusting. Your use of the phrase 'final solution'

You said: "Yes defeat fascism by any means necessary". Presumably you would not rule out the use of concentration camps for those you consider fascists then? I deliberately used the phrase 'final solution' as communists have used concentration camps to eliminate their opponents. Why do you consider the comparison 'disgusting'. Do you dispute the fact that communists have their own versions of the 'final solution'?

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

elgrande bedford 17 Oct 17 6.52pm
Meanwhile,out of gusset land the headv of the security services has said that we are facing an unprecedented level of terrorism... always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

elgrande

bedford 17 Oct 17 6.52pm

Meanwhile,out of gusset land the headv of the security services has said that we are facing an unprecedented level of terrorism...

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 17 Oct 17 7.01pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 You said: "Yes defeat fascism by any means necessary". Presumably you would not rule out the use of concentration camps for those you consider fascists then? I deliberately used the phrase 'final solution' as communists have used concentration camps to eliminate their opponents. Why do you consider the comparison 'disgusting'. Do you dispute the fact that communists have their own versions of the 'final solution'? Why are you going on about communists? Why are you bringing up concentration camps? How have you made that leap? f***ing incredible. I think you need to retract your final solution comment. Didn't Katie Hopkins lose a job for that.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 17 Oct 17 7.01pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Why are you going on about communists? Why are you bringing up concentration camps? How have you made that leap? f***ing incredible.

I think you need to retract your final solution comment. Didn't Katie Hopkins lose a job for that.

Kermit8 Hevon 17 Oct 17 7.02pm
Originally posted by elgrande Meanwhile,out of gusset land the headv of the security services has said that we are facing an unprecedented level of terrorism... Would have some way to go still to usurp the IRA mainland campaigns in the 70's and 80's and, arguably, the Blitz. Not diminishing the threat but unprecedented is a bit of an error on his part which, hopefully, will remain just that. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]

Kermit8

Hevon 17 Oct 17 7.02pm

Originally posted by elgrande

Meanwhile,out of gusset land the headv of the security services has said that we are facing an unprecedented level of terrorism...

Would have some way to go still to usurp the IRA mainland campaigns in the 70's and 80's and, arguably, the Blitz.

Not diminishing the threat but unprecedented is a bit of an error on his part which, hopefully, will remain just that.

Big chest and massive boobs

[Link]

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 17 Oct 17 7.04pm
Originally posted by elgrande Meanwhile,out of gusset land the headv of the security services has said that we are facing an unprecedented level of terrorism... What the f*** do you mean. Because I don't want innocent people treated as guilty by dint of them being muslims doesn't mean I support terrorism. Jesus Christ.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 17 Oct 17 7.04pm

Originally posted by elgrande

Meanwhile,out of gusset land the headv of the security services has said that we are facing an unprecedented level of terrorism...

What the f*** do you mean. Because I don't want innocent people treated as guilty by dint of them being muslims doesn't mean I support terrorism. Jesus Christ.

elgrande bedford 17 Oct 17 7.07pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 Would have some way to go still to usurp the IRA mainland campaigns in the 70's and 80's and, arguably, the Blitz. Not diminishing the threat but unprecedented is a bit of an error on his part which, hopefully, will remain just that. Sorry kermit i disagree. Although the IRA era was scary and they had considerably more bombs than this oresent lot,the number of active IRA members are less than what we are facing now. Thats what i believe obviously the blitz was a whole different ball game. There was never over 3000 active filesbon the ira suspects. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

elgrande

bedford 17 Oct 17 7.07pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

Would have some way to go still to usurp the IRA mainland campaigns in the 70's and 80's and, arguably, the Blitz.

Not diminishing the threat but unprecedented is a bit of an error on his part which, hopefully, will remain just that.

Sorry kermit i disagree.
Although the IRA era was scary and they had considerably more bombs than this oresent lot,the number of active IRA members are less than what we are facing now.
Thats what i believe obviously the blitz was a whole different ball game.
There was never over 3000 active filesbon the ira suspects.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

elgrande bedford 17 Oct 17 7.10pm
Originally posted by nickgusset What the f*** do you mean. Because I don't want innocent people treated as guilty by dint of them being muslims doesn't mean I support terrorism. Jesus Christ. You are missing the point (probably deliberately),in your world we should be more worried about a couple of hundred bonehead idiots than the over 3000 active terrorists that the security services are monitoring. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

elgrande

bedford 17 Oct 17 7.10pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

What the f*** do you mean. Because I don't want innocent people treated as guilty by dint of them being muslims doesn't mean I support terrorism. Jesus Christ.

You are missing the point (probably deliberately),in your world we should be more worried about a couple of hundred bonehead idiots than the over 3000 active terrorists that the security services are monitoring.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

Kermit8 Hevon 17 Oct 17 7.18pm
Originally posted by elgrande Sorry kermit i disagree. Although the IRA era was scary and they had considerably more bombs than this oresent lot,the number of active IRA members are less than what we are facing now. Thats what i believe obviously the blitz was a whole different ball game. There was never over 3000 active filesbon the ira suspects. Would you believe at its height the Provos had 30,000 members? Probably in the years just after Bloody Sunday when the attacks here and in NI (all part of the UK) were ferocious and frequent. Still a long way to go to get to that level thank christ. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]

Kermit8

Hevon 17 Oct 17 7.18pm

Originally posted by elgrande

Would you believe at its height the Provos had 30,000 members? Probably in the years just after Bloody Sunday when the attacks here and in NI (all part of the UK) were ferocious and frequent.

Still a long way to go to get to that level thank christ.

Big chest and massive boobs

[Link]

hedgehog50 Croydon 17 Oct 17 7.18pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Why are you going on about communists? Why are you bringing up concentration camps? How have you made that leap? f***ing incredible. I think you need to retract your final solution comment. Didn't Katie Hopkins lose a job for that. You said 'by any means necessary'. Do you really mean 'by any means necessary apart from concentration camps'? I am going on about communists because they are as ruthless in their 'means' as fascists are. Both use phrases like 'by any means necessary'. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50

Croydon 17 Oct 17 7.18pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Why are you going on about communists? Why are you bringing up concentration camps? How have you made that leap? f***ing incredible.

I think you need to retract your final solution comment. Didn't Katie Hopkins lose a job for that.

You said 'by any means necessary'. Do you really mean 'by any means necessary apart from concentration camps'? I am going on about communists because they are as ruthless in their 'means' as fascists are. Both use phrases like 'by any means necessary'.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 17 Oct 17 7.26pm
Originally posted by nickgusset You know what was disgusting. Your use of the phrase 'final solution' It was people like him that invented concentration camps in the Second Boer War. A report after the war concluded that 27,927 Boers (of whom 22,074 were children under 16) and 14,154 black Africans had died of starvation, disease and exposure in the camps. Perhaps in modern history the British were the first to use phrases like 'by any means necessary'? "Everything is air-droppable at least once." "When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

pefwin

Where you have to have an English ... 17 Oct 17 7.26pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

You know what was disgusting. Your use of the phrase 'final solution'

It was people like him that invented concentration camps in the Second Boer War. A report after the war concluded that 27,927 Boers (of whom 22,074 were children under 16) and 14,154 black Africans had died of starvation, disease and exposure in the camps.

Perhaps in modern history the British were the first to use phrases like 'by any means necessary'?

"Everything is air-droppable at least once."

"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

elgrande bedford 17 Oct 17 7.30pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 Would you believe at its height the Provos had 30,000 members? Probably in the years just after Bloody Sunday when the attacks here and in NI (all part of the UK) were ferocious and frequent. Still a long way to go to get to that level thank christ. True,but if the truth is known we have no idea how many potential jihadists we have here,or the ones that will be coming back from Syria or Iraqi. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

elgrande

bedford 17 Oct 17 7.30pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

Would you believe at its height the Provos had 30,000 members? Probably in the years just after Bloody Sunday when the attacks here and in NI (all part of the UK) were ferocious and frequent.

Still a long way to go to get to that level thank christ.

True,but if the truth is known we have no idea how many potential jihadists we have here,or the ones that will be coming back from Syria or Iraqi.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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