Eat them regularly enough and they will - slower than cigarettes but the effects of eating enough of them will contribute to the increased likelihood of developing many avoidable diseases.

Edited by sitdownstandup (05 Sep 2017 8.51pm)

Man is the most insane species. He worships an invisible God and destroys a visible Nature. Unaware that this Nature he’s destroying is this God he’s worshipping.

Hubert Reeves

I couldn't care less what Corbyn has put or puts in his mouth, be that tofu or one of Diane Abbott's nipples.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

So we should ban cars, aircraft, volcanos?

What I'm trying to say is that we must put these things into a sensible context. People, in general, eat too much and are getting increasingly fat. The best advice for many people is to eat less and exercise more. That makes sense. More specific advise is less useful.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (05 Sep 2017 8.58pm)

If you were back in time with our ancient ancestors, living in caves, without much meat to hunt you would probably take that dead animal....obviously not killed by a car back then....you'd take it and if it was fresh enough, you would probably cook it.

Like I say, our teeth are designed to eat many types of foods......Living into old age and concerning yourself with the most healthy things to eat was hardly more important than not starving.

The reason you don't salivate at the sight of roadkill is probably in part because you have a frontal cortex and can reason that you don't need it...Humans aren't meat only mammals anyway.....Even well fed dogs leave road kill and they don't have much of a frontal cortex.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Sep 2017 9.04pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

what if the human was starving and did need it? A hungry carnvivore would eat it and would more than likely not suffer any ill effects. Humans could cook the food and still suffer disease if it wasnt properly cleaned and cooked. Humans are better off eating fruits, veg, grains, cereals etc.

Man is the most insane species. He worships an invisible God and destroys a visible Nature. Unaware that this Nature he’s destroying is this God he’s worshipping.

Hubert Reeves

Not if they lived in ice age Europe. We have survived because we are adaptable.

Reducing meat intake and eating more veg does not equal becoming a vegan or a vegetarian. You don't seem to grasp the concept of moderation.

Did you miss the part where the meat industry contributes more greenhouse gases than the transportation industry? Climate change will need many things to change across the board - many countries are banning non-electric cars - for example, but we aren’t going to have electric airliners any time soon, so that won’t change.

But cutting out meat is good for you directly and good for the environment and is also much healthier ecologically (pigs in North Carolina produce 10x the amount of s*** that the human population does – which gets sprayed untreated onto fields where the toxins wash into the waterways, or the collection ponds just leak directly).

The land on which livestock is raised is rendered a toxic wasteland. Conversely, the land on which food crops are grown can be tilled over and used again (with a little rotation for longevity).

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

Yeah it's a good point....the body adapts to be more efficient.....but what a miserable way to live long term....hungry and a bit cold.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

If that's your bag then I commend you.....I couldn't be a vegan myself as I like my dairy stuff....but there's a certain ethical element to veggies.

The human body is certainly adapted to eat meat along with the rest of it....but what can be said is that a lot of animal farming is questionable ethically....and sometimes completely terrible no questions at all....I've seen videos showing male chicks being sent into the mincers shortly after birth....I don't sign up for that...no chicken nuggets for me.

I do look forward to the day when gene science provides us with quality commercial meat that doesn't involve the butchering of animals. That day is nearly here anyway.

Then they will exist in zoos.....also questionable ethically...but less so.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Sep 2017 9.45pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)