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monkey Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 17 Nov 17 9.00am
Originally posted by eagleincroydon we can only stay up with big ben in the side other that we got no chancem whos going to score the goals We hadn't scored at all with him in the team this season and had a big fat zero points, at least we have actually scored a few since he's been injured and got some points!!
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Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 17 Nov 17 9.00am

Originally posted by eagleincroydon

we can only stay up with big ben in the side other that we got no chancem whos going to score the goals

We hadn't scored at all with him in the team this season and had a big fat zero points, at least we have actually scored a few since he's been injured and got some points!!

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mattteo 17 Nov 17 9.08am
Originally posted by jimruss That's a completely meaningless stat, if you look at the goals to games ratio of that lot compared to Benteke then he comes out pretty much on top. Screw goals to games. GOALS TO MINUTES PLAYED is what's important. If one striker plays 180 minutes in 2 matches and another is a sub and plays just 20 minutes and they both score 2 goals, what matters most, the number of matches or the number of actual gametime? Ok, over 2 matches it's not relevant, but over the course of entire seasons it is. And Benteke is far behind the other strikers in the PL
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mattteo

17 Nov 17 9.08am

Originally posted by jimruss

That's a completely meaningless stat, if you look at the goals to games ratio of that lot compared to Benteke then he comes out pretty much on top.

Screw goals to games. GOALS TO MINUTES PLAYED is what's important.
If one striker plays 180 minutes in 2 matches and another is a sub and plays just 20 minutes and they both score 2 goals, what matters most, the number of matches or the number of actual gametime?

Ok, over 2 matches it's not relevant, but over the course of entire seasons it is. And Benteke is far behind the other strikers in the PL

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 17 Nov 17 9.21am
Originally posted by mattteo Screw goals to games. GOALS TO MINUTES PLAYED is what's important. If one striker plays 180 minutes in 2 matches and another is a sub and plays just 20 minutes and they both score 2 goals, what matters most, the number of matches or the number of actual gametime? Ok, over 2 matches it's not relevant, but over the course of entire seasons it is. And Benteke is far behind the other strikers in the PL Listen you fool, the game changes in the 2nd half, especially after 65-70 mins, a goal or whatever. When did he ever score in the 1st half? Once? COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 17 Nov 17 9.21am

Originally posted by mattteo

Ok, over 2 matches it's not relevant, but over the course of entire seasons it is. And Benteke is far behind the other strikers in the PL

Listen you fool, the game changes in the 2nd half, especially after 65-70 mins, a goal or whatever. When did he ever score in the 1st half? Once?

COYP

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mattteo 17 Nov 17 9.27am
It's like Chicharito and Welbeck in Manchester United. Now everyone there laments they were tossed aside, which proved a tragedy in United's years that followed. They were some of the best strikers in the league because of their goals to minutes played ratio. They proved they can keep up those scores when they got more playing time at other teams (Leverkusen and Arsenal).
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17 Nov 17 9.27am

It's like Chicharito and Welbeck in Manchester United. Now everyone there laments they were tossed aside, which proved a tragedy in United's years that followed.
They were some of the best strikers in the league because of their goals to minutes played ratio. They proved they can keep up those scores when they got more playing time at other teams (Leverkusen and Arsenal).

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taylors lovechild 17 Nov 17 10.15am
Whatever your views of Bentenke, we have missed having a focal point for our attacks and although Zaha and Townsend have done well in the circumstances both drifted off to the wings leaving no one in the middle. Personally I'm generally a big fan of Bentenke (there have been a few games where he's irked me). He does a lot more than just score. He wins most balls in the air and has some skill on the deck. He does seem to come alive when Zaha is linking up with him, so hopefully with both in the side we will see a resurgence in his form. I certainly don't think he will want to be outshone by his mates Sakho and Zaha. My only one negative is that sometimes he seems to play like he is a bit too concerned with how he looks, which seems in keeping with the "Stay Up All Night With Bentenke" song
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17 Nov 17 10.15am

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Whatever your views of Bentenke, we have missed having a focal point for our attacks and although Zaha and Townsend have done well in the circumstances both drifted off to the wings leaving no one in the middle.

Personally I'm generally a big fan of Bentenke (there have been a few games where he's irked me). He does a lot more than just score. He wins most balls in the air and has some skill on the deck. He does seem to come alive when Zaha is linking up with him, so hopefully with both in the side we will see a resurgence in his form. I certainly don't think he will want to be outshone by his mates Sakho and Zaha. My only one negative is that sometimes he seems to play like he is a bit too concerned with how he looks, which seems in keeping with the "Stay Up All Night With Bentenke" song

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slubglurge welling 17 Nov 17 10.22am
Good to have Tekkers bavk. My only concern for this game is that they have Keane in their ranks who for Burnley at Selhurst last season completely dominated him
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welling 17 Nov 17 10.22am

Good to have Tekkers bavk. My only concern for this game is that they have Keane in their ranks who for Burnley at Selhurst last season completely dominated him

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jimruss Sidcup 17 Nov 17 10.58am
Originally posted by mattteo Screw goals to games. GOALS TO MINUTES PLAYED is what's important. If one striker plays 180 minutes in 2 matches and another is a sub and plays just 20 minutes and they both score 2 goals, what matters most, the number of matches or the number of actual gametime? Ok, over 2 matches it's not relevant, but over the course of entire seasons it is. And Benteke is far behind the other strikers in the PL Jesus wept
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jimruss

Sidcup 17 Nov 17 10.58am

Originally posted by mattteo

Ok, over 2 matches it's not relevant, but over the course of entire seasons it is. And Benteke is far behind the other strikers in the PL

Jesus wept

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fish mitten Chelmsford 17 Nov 17 11.07am
It's total goals scored that's the important stat. Goals to minutes played for these players may be greater but it's either down to the fact that they are impact subs or perhaps indicates that they are always injured half a season. Having a striker who scores once every 270 minutes is no good if he's injured 20 games each season. It's 3 goals a season! You can twist statistics to prove what you want. Personally I want a striker who is generally fit, scores goals and brings others into play. Played correctly with adequate support Benteke will do that, as he proved consistently at Villa and with us last year. Originally posted by mattteo Screw goals to games. GOALS TO MINUTES PLAYED is what's important. If one striker plays 180 minutes in 2 matches and another is a sub and plays just 20 minutes and they both score 2 goals, what matters most, the number of matches or the number of actual gametime? Ok, over 2 matches it's not relevant, but over the course of entire seasons it is. And Benteke is far behind the other strikers in the PL
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fish mitten

Chelmsford 17 Nov 17 11.07am

It's total goals scored that's the important stat. Goals to minutes played for these players may be greater but it's either down to the fact that they are impact subs or perhaps indicates that they are always injured half a season. Having a striker who scores once every 270 minutes is no good if he's injured 20 games each season. It's 3 goals a season!

You can twist statistics to prove what you want. Personally I want a striker who is generally fit, scores goals and brings others into play. Played correctly with adequate support Benteke will do that, as he proved consistently at Villa and with us last year.

Originally posted by mattteo

Ok, over 2 matches it's not relevant, but over the course of entire seasons it is. And Benteke is far behind the other strikers in the PL

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bexleydave Barnehurst 17 Nov 17 11.16am
Originally posted by fish mitten It's total goals scored that's the important stat. Goals to minutes played for these players may be greater but it's either down to the fact that they are impact subs or perhaps indicates that they are always injured half a season. Having a striker who scores once every 270 minutes is no good if he's injured 20 games each season. It's 3 goals a season! You can twist statistics to prove what you want. Personally I want a striker who is generally fit, scores goals and brings others into play. Played correctly with adequate support Benteke will do that, as he proved consistently at Villa and with us last year. Quite so! Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)
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bexleydave

Barnehurst 17 Nov 17 11.16am

Originally posted by fish mitten

Quite so!

Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

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OneWayTicketToMars Selsdon 17 Nov 17 11.48am
Stats stats and more stats ... really. As long as Benteke is fit ...... wants to score ... and gets good service he will nut a few in. I think he will be bang on it ..... we need our striker back. Record crowd 51,482 - The Whitehorse was rocking - Second Div Champs 1978 - 79 ... 'wot a night !
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Stats stats and more stats ... really.
As long as Benteke is fit ...... wants to score ... and gets good service he will nut a few in.
I think he will be bang on it ..... we need our striker back.

Record crowd 51,482 - The Whitehorse was rocking - Second Div Champs 1978 - 79 ... 'wot a night !

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eagleincroydon 17 Nov 17 11.51am
were chanced are playing style from the start of the season and we should be playing a style that suits benny, getting the crosses in and he getting on the end of them. --------- i think the players still getting new style of playing and we actually creating alot of chances
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17 Nov 17 11.51am

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were chanced are playing style from the start of the season and we should be playing a style that suits
benny, getting the crosses in and he getting on the end of them.

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i think the players still getting new style of playing
and we actually creating alot of chances

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Eltham Eagle 17 Nov 17 12.08pm
Call me old fashioned, but I'm of the belief that you tend to score more goals if you play a striker. So thank fcuk we have one again Now here's Wright, his first chance to see what he can do, and he's through, it's Wright, ohhhh what an impact by the substitute. And it's Ian Wright who's sent the Palace fans into ecstasy!
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Eltham Eagle

17 Nov 17 12.08pm

Call me old fashioned, but I'm of the belief that you tend to score more goals if you play a striker.

So thank fcuk we have one again

Now here's Wright, his first chance to see what he can do, and he's through, it's Wright, ohhhh what an impact by the substitute. And it's Ian Wright who's sent the Palace fans into ecstasy!

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