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Stirlingsays Flag 21 Dec 19 6.25am

Ah the open double standards from that certain political demographic.

Hate the west for colonization.

Yet when it's the west being colonized.....More please.

Anti white worn with pride.

Vote Lammy.

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Dec 2019 6.27am)

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Midlands Eagle Flag 21 Dec 19 6.30am

Originally posted by serial thriller

remember that every time you blame migrants and call for harsher borders, it has a very real impact on the lives of thousands of the most vulnerable people in the world. The numbers fleeing war zones and climate breakdown are rising,

Most of the asylum seekers that we hear about seem to come from France which last time I heard was not a war zone.

Anyway, most of the complaints seem to be about economic migrants and not asylum seekers

 

W12 21 Dec 19 6.39am

Originally posted by serial thriller

And I will take your blame and wear it with pride.

Remember that there is no comfortable side of the fence to be on regarding immigration. On my side, you get hounded as unpatriotic, out of touch and complicit with some grand elitist project of free movement.

But on your side, remember that every time you blame migrants and call for harsher borders, it has a very real impact on the lives of thousands of the most vulnerable people in the world. The numbers fleeing war zones and climate breakdown are rising, and as the US, Europe (Yes, Europe too) and other areas of the developed world harden in their determination not to admit asylum seekers, more and more will look for alternative methods of survival, and more and more will die.

Remember that this could easily be us one day. Our grandparents did the same, did they not, fleeing the blitz by seeking refuge in the countryside thanks to the benevolence of strangers?

We blame migrants because they are largely voiceless and thus make for easy scapegoats. Then when they wash up dead on our shores we see no link and blame them again.

“Voiceless” and “vulnerable”

Have you been to Croydon recently?

The NPC meme really is spot on


 

cryrst Flag The garden of England 21 Dec 19 7.08am

Originally posted by serial thriller

And I will take your blame and wear it with pride.

Remember that there is no comfortable side of the fence to be on regarding immigration. On my side, you get hounded as unpatriotic, out of touch and complicit with some grand elitist project of free movement.

But on your side, remember that every time you blame migrants and call for harsher borders, it has a very real impact on the lives of thousands of the most vulnerable people in the world. The numbers fleeing war zones and climate breakdown are rising, and as the US, Europe (Yes, Europe too) and other areas of the developed world harden in their determination not to admit asylum seekers, more and more will look for alternative methods of survival, and more and more will die.

Remember that this could easily be us one day. Our grandparents did the same, did they not, fleeing the blitz by seeking refuge in the countryside thanks to the benevolence of strangers?

We blame migrants because they are largely voiceless and thus make for easy scapegoats. Then when they wash up dead on our shores we see no link and blame them again.

Who starts the wars they flee from then.
Most immigrants are men of fighting age.
Why are they not ?

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 07 Jan 20 10.51am

Seems this thread has been forgotten.

 


COYP

Midlands Eagle Flag 07 Jan 20 10.54am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Seems this thread has been forgotten.

Or just ignored through lack of interest

 

chris123 Flag hove actually 07 Jan 20 11.00am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Seems this thread has been forgotten.

Too triangular and Tory-lite.

 

Sportyteacher Flag London 07 Jan 20 12.55pm

Three months to decide a new Party Leader tells the electorate everything they need to know in relation to the dithering, slow crawl of meaningful activity coming out of Labour. All the more important when there is a dire need to have an effective opposition that really holds this Government to account for its words and actions.

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 07 Jan 20 1.44pm

I see the contest as largely irrelevant.

I see no way back for the Labour Party. Who-ever they choose they will continue their internal battles with much more vigour than opposing the Tories.

I think their time has now gone. I think they will fade and eventually split.

There is political room for a truly socialist party, just as there is political room for a truly libertarian one, but I don't think either will ever govern in the UK.

This ought to signal a strong resurgence for the LibDems but whether they can rid themselves of their baggage depends on whether the emergence of a charismatic leader occurs. If a 20 year younger Paddy Ashdown was still with us I think our political outlook would now look very different.

Nevertheless, vacuums get filled and there is currently a huge one in the centre of English politics. What and who will fill it is going to be interesting to observe but filled it will be.

It COULD even be the Tories and Johnson might yet surprise us all by negotiating a very soft Brexit, ignoring Farage and the ERG and moving the Tories onto the high central ground. I am not holding my breath but there have been a few, albeit very tiny, straws in the wind noticeable.

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 07 Jan 20 1.58pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I see the contest as largely irrelevant.

I see no way back for the Labour Party. Who-ever they choose they will continue their internal battles with much more vigour than opposing the Tories.

I think their time has now gone. I think they will fade and eventually split.

There is political room for a truly socialist party, just as there is political room for a truly libertarian one, but I don't think either will ever govern in the UK.

This ought to signal a strong resurgence for the LibDems but whether they can rid themselves of their baggage depends on whether the emergence of a charismatic leader occurs. If a 20 year younger Paddy Ashdown was still with us I think our political outlook would now look very different.

Nevertheless, vacuums get filled and there is currently a huge one in the centre of English politics. What and who will fill it is going to be interesting to observe but filled it will be.

It COULD even be the Tories and Johnson might yet surprise us all by negotiating a very soft Brexit, ignoring Farage and the ERG and moving the Tories onto the high central ground. I am not holding my breath but there have been a few, albeit very tiny, straws in the wind noticeable.

Brexit will never be the right one for everyone.
Clearly not remainers ok but the EU have a part to play in how soft or hard it is.
They will show either what we will miss out on by not remaining or how much of a relief it will be that we left.
Their actions will speak volumes.

 

Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 07 Jan 20 9.45pm

On a serious note. If you run a small or medium sized business would you actually employ any of these f***ing cretins?
None if any have ever done a proper solid day's work in their lives.

 


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Eaglecoops Flag CR3 08 Jan 20 1.54pm

Originally posted by Jimenez

On a serious note. If you run a small or medium sized business would you actually employ any of these f***ing cretins?
None if any have ever done a proper solid day's work in their lives.

No I wouldn’t, however if you have a need for an employee who will never answer a question or just completely ignore what you say then there are plenty amongst them to choose from. Should be good if you run a call centre!

 

Stirlingsays Flag 08 Jan 20 4.34pm

I'm hearing Jess ('don't threaten violence to women' (I'll stab Corbyn in the front') Phillips claimed £207K in expenses in 2018.....mainly to her husband who works office for her.

Can you imagined what an excuse in trousers you'd have to be to be hitched to Jess Phillips.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jan 2020 4.34pm)

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

cryrst Flag The garden of England 08 Jan 20 5.07pm

Can you imagine Britain with corbyn in charge.
Thank god ,thank buddha, thank Allah (irony).
The eu would be rinsing us, the usa would be ignoring us and who knows what time to face east.

 

DanH Flag SW2 08 Jan 20 5.27pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I'm hearing Jess ('don't threaten violence to women' (I'll stab Corbyn in the front') Phillips claimed £207K in expenses in 2018.....mainly to her husband who works office for her.

Can you imagined what an excuse in trousers you'd have to be to be hitched to Jess Phillips.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jan 2020 4.34pm)

She'd run rings around you.

 

Teddy Eagle Flag 08 Jan 20 5.30pm

Originally posted by DanH

She'd run rings around you.

My wife does that to me and doesn’t pay anything let alone what he’s raking in.

 

ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 08 Jan 20 5.51pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I'm hearing Jess ('don't threaten violence to women' (I'll stab Corbyn in the front') Phillips claimed £207K in expenses in 2018.....mainly to her husband who works office for her.

Can you imagined what an excuse in trousers you'd have to be to be hitched to Jess Phillips.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jan 2020 4.34pm)

Strangely arousing

Edited by ASCPFC (08 Jan 2020 5.52pm)

 


Red and Blue Army!

Stirlingsays Flag 08 Jan 20 5.54pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Strangely arousing

Edited by ASCPFC (08 Jan 2020 5.52pm)

That's one axe wound I'd gladly pass on.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Teddy Eagle Flag 08 Jan 20 5.55pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

That's one axe wound I'd gladly pass on.

Spell check kicked in there.

 

Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 08 Jan 20 9.41pm

I think I could possibly slip Rebecca L-B one. A kind of guilty pleasure, a bit like Sarah Palin, if you will.

 


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