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Originally posted by serial thriller
remember that every time you blame migrants and call for harsher borders, it has a very real impact on the lives of thousands of the most vulnerable people in the world. The numbers fleeing war zones and climate breakdown are rising, Most of the asylum seekers that we hear about seem to come from France which last time I heard was not a war zone. Anyway, most of the complaints seem to be about economic migrants and not asylum seekers
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Originally posted by serial thriller
And I will take your blame and wear it with pride. Remember that there is no comfortable side of the fence to be on regarding immigration. On my side, you get hounded as unpatriotic, out of touch and complicit with some grand elitist project of free movement. But on your side, remember that every time you blame migrants and call for harsher borders, it has a very real impact on the lives of thousands of the most vulnerable people in the world. The numbers fleeing war zones and climate breakdown are rising, and as the US, Europe (Yes, Europe too) and other areas of the developed world harden in their determination not to admit asylum seekers, more and more will look for alternative methods of survival, and more and more will die. Remember that this could easily be us one day. Our grandparents did the same, did they not, fleeing the blitz by seeking refuge in the countryside thanks to the benevolence of strangers? We blame migrants because they are largely voiceless and thus make for easy scapegoats. Then when they wash up dead on our shores we see no link and blame them again. “Voiceless” and “vulnerable” Have you been to Croydon recently? The NPC meme really is spot on
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Originally posted by serial thriller
And I will take your blame and wear it with pride. Remember that there is no comfortable side of the fence to be on regarding immigration. On my side, you get hounded as unpatriotic, out of touch and complicit with some grand elitist project of free movement. But on your side, remember that every time you blame migrants and call for harsher borders, it has a very real impact on the lives of thousands of the most vulnerable people in the world. The numbers fleeing war zones and climate breakdown are rising, and as the US, Europe (Yes, Europe too) and other areas of the developed world harden in their determination not to admit asylum seekers, more and more will look for alternative methods of survival, and more and more will die. Remember that this could easily be us one day. Our grandparents did the same, did they not, fleeing the blitz by seeking refuge in the countryside thanks to the benevolence of strangers? We blame migrants because they are largely voiceless and thus make for easy scapegoats. Then when they wash up dead on our shores we see no link and blame them again. Who starts the wars they flee from then.
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Seems this thread has been forgotten.
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Seems this thread has been forgotten. Or just ignored through lack of interest
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Seems this thread has been forgotten. Too triangular and Tory-lite.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I see the contest as largely irrelevant. I see no way back for the Labour Party. Who-ever they choose they will continue their internal battles with much more vigour than opposing the Tories. I think their time has now gone. I think they will fade and eventually split. There is political room for a truly socialist party, just as there is political room for a truly libertarian one, but I don't think either will ever govern in the UK. This ought to signal a strong resurgence for the LibDems but whether they can rid themselves of their baggage depends on whether the emergence of a charismatic leader occurs. If a 20 year younger Paddy Ashdown was still with us I think our political outlook would now look very different. Nevertheless, vacuums get filled and there is currently a huge one in the centre of English politics. What and who will fill it is going to be interesting to observe but filled it will be. It COULD even be the Tories and Johnson might yet surprise us all by negotiating a very soft Brexit, ignoring Farage and the ERG and moving the Tories onto the high central ground. I am not holding my breath but there have been a few, albeit very tiny, straws in the wind noticeable. Brexit will never be the right one for everyone.
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Originally posted by Jimenez
On a serious note. If you run a small or medium sized business would you actually employ any of these f***ing cretins? No I wouldn’t, however if you have a need for an employee who will never answer a question or just completely ignore what you say then there are plenty amongst them to choose from. Should be good if you run a call centre!
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I'm hearing Jess ('don't threaten violence to women' (I'll stab Corbyn in the front' Can you imagined what an excuse in trousers you'd have to be to be hitched to Jess Phillips.
Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jan 2020 4.34pm) She'd run rings around you.
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Originally posted by DanH
She'd run rings around you. My wife does that to me and doesn’t pay anything let alone what he’s raking in.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I'm hearing Jess ('don't threaten violence to women' (I'll stab Corbyn in the front' Can you imagined what an excuse in trousers you'd have to be to be hitched to Jess Phillips.
Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jan 2020 4.34pm) Strangely arousing Edited by ASCPFC (08 Jan 2020 5.52pm)
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That's one axe wound I'd gladly pass on.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
That's one axe wound I'd gladly pass on. Spell check kicked in there.
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