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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Jan 21 4.22pm
Originally posted by eagleman13 Thanks Willo, but you didnt answer the Q? I cannot see Schlupp being deployed at left-back tomorrow. If in a 4-4-2, Schlupp is played at left-back and Eze ahead of him, I don't believe this plays to Eze's strengths.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Jan 21 4.22pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

Thanks Willo, but you didnt answer the Q?

I cannot see Schlupp being deployed at left-back tomorrow.

If in a 4-4-2, Schlupp is played at left-back and Eze ahead of him, I don't believe this plays to Eze's strengths.

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Casual Orpington 01 Jan 21 4.22pm
Originally posted by southnorwoodhill It's remarkable that team selection can be based around finding adequate cover for a defender who can't defend. Square pegs round holes. I was thinking exactly the same. So if we play our defender that can’t defend (pva), we need schlupp playing on the wing to help him defend. But we are doing it so pva can get forward? But if we play our defender that can defend (Mitchell), then we can play a winger Eze that can actually play as a winger.But Mitchell will just be defending ? Brilliant.
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Orpington 01 Jan 21 4.22pm

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

It's remarkable that team selection can be based around finding adequate cover for a defender who can't defend. Square pegs round holes.

I was thinking exactly the same.
So if we play our defender that can’t defend (pva), we need schlupp playing on the wing to help him defend. But we are doing it so pva can get forward?
But if we play our defender that can defend (Mitchell), then we can play a winger Eze that can actually play as a winger.But Mitchell will just be defending ?
Brilliant.

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palace chick South Croydon 01 Jan 21 4.30pm
Originally posted by kevlee Schlupp is a far better left back than both PVA (who I think is s***e) and Mitchell ( who I think is a decent player but has a lot to learn). Schlupp isn’t scared to get stuck in and is a very versatile and valuable player IMO. I think it’s more about having a left sided midfielder (eg Eze) who gives the ball away a lot and doesn’t support his left back. If it’s PVA, then he attacks too much and the left side is left open. You need that balance for which I believe we have with Schlupp as the left midfielder and PVA at left back. Schlupp is not only good in the air but scores occasionally and will support PVA. I’m not against playing Eze against a side like Sheffield Utd but it will need a player who defends better than PVA and that in my mind is Mitchell. Schlupp can play left back but has never looked that good in that position. Opinions I know, but that’s mine :-)
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South Croydon 01 Jan 21 4.30pm

Originally posted by kevlee

Schlupp is a far better left back than both PVA (who I think is s***e) and Mitchell ( who I think is a decent player but has a lot to learn).
Schlupp isn’t scared to get stuck in and is a very versatile and valuable player IMO.

I think it’s more about having a left sided midfielder (eg Eze) who gives the ball away a lot and doesn’t support his left back. If it’s PVA, then he attacks too much and the left side is left open. You need that balance for which I believe we have with Schlupp as the left midfielder and PVA at left back. Schlupp is not only good in the air but scores occasionally and will support PVA. I’m not against playing Eze against a side like Sheffield Utd but it will need a player who defends better than PVA and that in my mind is Mitchell. Schlupp can play left back but has never looked that good in that position. Opinions I know, but that’s mine :-)

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Plaistow Eagle 01 Jan 21 4.31pm
Originally posted by eagleman13 No problems there, but if we use Schlupp as LB, who do we use as left wing, Eze? Mate If it were me and everyone fit I'd go; Gauita Clyne, Tomkins, Cahill (C), Schlupp Kouyate, Jario Townsend, Eze, Zaha Bats No square pegs in round holes..!! So putting Wilf back out left and playing Eze in the 10 role. Won't happen of course because Roy will want to stick 4-4-2. On Bats, I think he deserves a run - playing Benteke up front to hold it up ain't working. COYP
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01 Jan 21 4.31pm

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Originally posted by eagleman13

No problems there, but if we use Schlupp as LB, who do we use as left wing, Eze?

Mate

If it were me and everyone fit I'd go;

Gauita
Clyne, Tomkins, Cahill (C), Schlupp
Kouyate, Jario
Townsend, Eze, Zaha
Bats

No square pegs in round holes..!!

So putting Wilf back out left and playing Eze in the 10 role.

Won't happen of course because Roy will want to stick 4-4-2.

On Bats, I think he deserves a run - playing Benteke up front to hold it up ain't working.

COYP

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Osvaldo Epsom 01 Jan 21 4.44pm
yes, a forward not a defender. While we are talking about forwards, what about King from Bournemouth, 13m. He would score at least 12 goals a season. Brooks would also be a sensation in m/f with Eze. Then we can release some older midfielders. Eddie Howe new manager when Roy hangs his boots up. Allow Benteke to depart gracefully for 15m. Good deal. It would be the start of an entertaining, watchable team if we could keep Wilfred.
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Epsom 01 Jan 21 4.44pm

yes, a forward not a defender.
While we are talking about forwards, what about King from Bournemouth, 13m. He would score at least 12 goals a season. Brooks would also be a sensation in m/f with Eze. Then we can release some older midfielders.
Eddie Howe new manager when Roy hangs his boots up.
Allow Benteke to depart gracefully for 15m. Good deal.
It would be the start of an entertaining, watchable team if we could keep Wilfred.

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southnorwoodhill 01 Jan 21 4.55pm
Originally posted by Plaistow Eagle Mate If it were me and everyone fit I'd go; Gauita Clyne, Tomkins, Cahill (C), Schlupp Kouyate, Jario Townsend, Eze, Zaha Bats No square pegs in round holes..!! So putting Wilf back out left and playing Eze in the 10 role. Won't happen of course because Roy will want to stick 4-4-2. On Bats, I think he deserves a run - playing Benteke up front to hold it up ain't working. COYP 4-2-3-1 is a formation I'd favour too, if not the personnel in your team selection. I'd have Mitchell lb, Schlupp left mid, Zaha right mid. l Has a good balance between attack and defence. I agree that Eze should play centrally, he's not a winger despite what Hodgson thinks.
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Originally posted by Plaistow Eagle

Mate

If it were me and everyone fit I'd go;

Gauita
Clyne, Tomkins, Cahill (C), Schlupp
Kouyate, Jario
Townsend, Eze, Zaha
Bats

No square pegs in round holes..!!

So putting Wilf back out left and playing Eze in the 10 role.

Won't happen of course because Roy will want to stick 4-4-2.

On Bats, I think he deserves a run - playing Benteke up front to hold it up ain't working.

COYP

4-2-3-1 is a formation I'd favour too, if not the personnel in your team selection. I'd have Mitchell lb, Schlupp left mid, Zaha right mid. l Has a good balance between attack and defence. I agree that Eze should play centrally, he's not a winger despite what Hodgson thinks.

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doi209 Fighting for the weak and innocent... 01 Jan 21 5.04pm
Originally posted by Osvaldo yes, a forward not a defender. While we are talking about forwards, what about King from Bournemouth, 13m. He would score at least 12 goals a season. Brooks would also be a sensation in m/f with Eze. Then we can release some older midfielders. Eddie Howe new manager when Roy hangs his boots up. Allow Benteke to depart gracefully for 15m. Good deal. It would be the start of an entertaining, watchable team if we could keep Wilfred. 15m for Benteke wouldn't be a good deal - it would absolutely fanatastic !
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Fighting for the weak and innocent... 01 Jan 21 5.04pm

Originally posted by Osvaldo

15m for Benteke wouldn't be a good deal - it would absolutely fanatastic !

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kev64 Cambs 01 Jan 21 7.54pm
Originally posted by doi209 15m for Benteke wouldn't be a good deal - it would absolutely fanatastic ! Be a Christmas miracle, out of contract in June so can pre sign this window .. I sincerely hope that’s the end of the sorry Tekkers saga, but with Roy continuing to play him week in week out, got a terrible feeling he will get another 2 years of impersonating a number 9.
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Cambs 01 Jan 21 7.54pm

Originally posted by doi209

15m for Benteke wouldn't be a good deal - it would absolutely fanatastic !

Be a Christmas miracle, out of contract in June so can pre sign this window .. I sincerely hope that’s the end of the sorry Tekkers saga, but with Roy continuing to play him week in week out, got a terrible feeling he will get another 2 years of impersonating a number 9.

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TheBigToePunt 01 Jan 21 9.23pm
For me the problem is not that PvA gets caught out defensively when he goes forward, it's that he gets caught out defensively when he's defending. He's so clueless positionaly that his recent farces (wandering off so that West Brom can play the pass inside him for their goal against us, brilliantly showing Salah inside onto his left foot to have the greatest possible chance of scoring against us for Liverpool) pass without comment because they're just the norm.
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TheBigToePunt

01 Jan 21 9.23pm

For me the problem is not that PvA gets caught out defensively when he goes forward, it's that he gets caught out defensively when he's defending.

He's so clueless positionaly that his recent farces (wandering off so that West Brom can play the pass inside him for their goal against us, brilliantly showing Salah inside onto his left foot to have the greatest possible chance of scoring against us for Liverpool) pass without comment because they're just the norm.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Jan 21 11.23pm
PVA's defensive frailties have been well documented but he does have a commendable scoring record for a defender. I believe it was last season that I heard he had scored 18 goals in the PL, for us and Sunderland, which was the most for a PL defender at that time.
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South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Jan 21 11.23pm

PVA's defensive frailties have been well documented but he does have a commendable scoring record for a defender.
I believe it was last season that I heard he had scored 18 goals in the PL, for us and Sunderland, which was the most for a PL defender at that time.

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deleted9 02 Jan 21 6.29am
PLAY PVA AT WING BACK! I’ve been crying out for this since we signed him. Such a great threat going forward. Either 3 at the back or a defensive midfielder drops deeper for cover when we’re attacking. Likewise, Clyne is also quite attack minded in my opinion and could do the same. This would spread the pitch out, creating more space to manipulate the ball and move the opposition around. Roy’s rigidity is infuriating, especially when you look at Villa, Leeds and Southampton‘s progress. We have a good Premier League squad, including PVA, it the players play with shackles on.
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02 Jan 21 6.29am

PLAY PVA AT WING BACK!

I’ve been crying out for this since we signed him. Such a great threat going forward. Either 3 at the back or a defensive midfielder drops deeper for cover when we’re attacking.

Likewise, Clyne is also quite attack minded in my opinion and could do the same. This would spread the pitch out, creating more space to manipulate the ball and move the opposition around.

Roy’s rigidity is infuriating, especially when you look at Villa, Leeds and Southampton‘s progress. We have a good Premier League squad, including PVA, it the players play with shackles on.

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thai-eagle chiang mai 02 Jan 21 12.09pm
Originally posted by alexdyoung87 PLAY PVA AT WING BACK! I’ve been crying out for this since we signed him. Such a great threat going forward. Either 3 at the back or a defensive midfielder drops deeper for cover when we’re attacking. Likewise, Clyne is also quite attack minded in my opinion and could do the same. This would spread the pitch out, creating more space to manipulate the ball and move the opposition around. Roy’s rigidity is infuriating, especially when you look at Villa, Leeds and Southampton‘s progress. We have a good Premier League squad, including PVA, it the players play with shackles on. Agree 100%! Then he can concentrate on his offensive play because he knows zero about defending.
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thai-eagle

chiang mai 02 Jan 21 12.09pm

Originally posted by alexdyoung87

PLAY PVA AT WING BACK!

I’ve been crying out for this since we signed him. Such a great threat going forward. Either 3 at the back or a defensive midfielder drops deeper for cover when we’re attacking.

Likewise, Clyne is also quite attack minded in my opinion and could do the same. This would spread the pitch out, creating more space to manipulate the ball and move the opposition around.

Roy’s rigidity is infuriating, especially when you look at Villa, Leeds and Southampton‘s progress. We have a good Premier League squad, including PVA, it the players play with shackles on.

Agree 100%! Then he can concentrate on his offensive play because he knows zero about defending.

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