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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 15 Aug 21 2.33pm

Originally posted by Slimey Toad

Incel? Isn't that just a saddo who can't get a shag? Richard Richard in Bottom for example?

it starts with richard richard....and ends up with an Anders Breivik scenario.

A society full of Incels is a scary place.

Many Third World dumps have wealthy fellas with 200 wives and a lot of Incels sitting around planning their next massacre.

 


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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 15 Aug 21 3.02pm

if you are going to adopt the term 'incel', as a kind of grouping of males who can't get their rocks off, then that might explain a lot of the savagery being conducted in Islamist countries.

Not getting your end away can do funny things to men.

And pity about the shooters mum. Definitely 'wood' from me.

 


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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 15 Aug 21 3.17pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

if you are going to adopt the term 'incel', as a kind of grouping of males who can't get their rocks off, then that might explain a lot of the savagery being conducted in Islamist countries.

Not getting your end away can do funny things to men.

And pity about the shooters mum. Definitely 'wood' from me.

Polygamy breeds many frustrated men. Breeds violence.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 15 Aug 21 5.04pm

There have always been 'incels', there just wasn't a name for it before the digital age.

Due to the nature of male/female interaction. It's in the interests of women to find the highest status mate and so that creates a mating issue between average and below average males. The top twenty percent of dating males get to cherry pick women where roughly eighty percent don't entertain dating outside of the top males.....until their own self value estimation lowers.

It's an unspoken reality that has always existed....it's natural and in a normal environment women don't get the same level of access to the top males and so the pool for average women/males to settle is larger.....even for the higher females the average males catch them on their way down.

However, the rise of feminism and the alphabet ideologies allied to the digital age has worsened this natural dynamic and it partly explains why progressives hate 'incels' so much.....because they realise that it's their hatred of masculinity that has helped increase the numbers of these socially unsuccessful men considerably. This is the resultant underbelly of their social and political change.....but instead of taking responsibility and trying to help they prefer to block off any self reflective thought and demonise these people instead.

All the progressive media outlets use this disparate collection of men as a 'hate' group.....painting them as women haters and as extreme this and extreme that when the reality is that the only thing that connects them all together is that they can't get laid.

I've seen a video this guy put out about his life. He seems to be a product of today's nihilistic society who was using 'incel' stuff as an excuse for his own social disaffection...This guy wasn't physically repulsive....What he needed was good people around him, but today's society is so fragmented that the number of people without good social connections is significantly higher.

This awful event is reflective of a deeper dysfunction going on within society.....dysfunctions resultant from dysfunctions.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Aug 2021 5.33pm)

 


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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 15 Aug 21 7.04pm

the Hungerford massacre was something similar. Another Incel, long before the moniker even existed.

You could argue that very many of the muslim terror atrocities on our streets ? all just Incels in another packaging.

 


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DanH Flag SW2 15 Aug 21 7.39pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

the Hungerford massacre was something similar. Another Incel, long before the moniker even existed.

You could argue that very many of the muslim terror atrocities on our streets ? all just Incels in another packaging.

I think you certainly can. So much of it is angry, disaffected and lost men (always men) kicking out at the world and looking for a cause to channel their anger and aggression into.

Edited by DanH (15 Aug 2021 7.39pm)

 

DanH Flag SW2 15 Aug 21 7.42pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

There have always been 'incels', there just wasn't a name for it before the digital age.

Due to the nature of male/female interaction. It's in the interests of women to find the highest status mate and so that creates a mating issue between average and below average males. The top twenty percent of dating males get to cherry pick women where roughly eighty percent don't entertain dating outside of the top males.....until their own self value estimation lowers.

It's an unspoken reality that has always existed....it's natural and in a normal environment women don't get the same level of access to the top males and so the pool for average women/males to settle is larger.....even for the higher females the average males catch them on their way down.

However, the rise of feminism and the alphabet ideologies allied to the digital age has worsened this natural dynamic and it partly explains why progressives hate 'incels' so much.....because they realise that it's their hatred of masculinity that has helped increase the numbers of these socially unsuccessful men considerably. This is the resultant underbelly of their social and political change.....but instead of taking responsibility and trying to help they prefer to block off any self reflective thought and demonise these people instead.

All the progressive media outlets use this disparate collection of men as a 'hate' group.....painting them as women haters and as extreme this and extreme that when the reality is that the only thing that connects them all together is that they can't get laid.

I've seen a video this guy put out about his life. He seems to be a product of today's nihilistic society who was using 'incel' stuff as an excuse for his own social disaffection...This guy wasn't physically repulsive....What he needed was good people around him, but today's society is so fragmented that the number of people without good social connections is significantly higher.

This awful event is reflective of a deeper dysfunction going on within society.....dysfunctions resultant from dysfunctions.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Aug 2021 5.33pm)

This is a monumental, and pretty repulsive leap, to blame men wanting to kill innocent people on the rise of feminism and progressive culture.

 

croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 15 Aug 21 7.48pm

Originally posted by kingdowieonthewall

I worked on several barn conversions, on the same plot of land.
Besides the 3 conversions the builder kept the ongoing farm land / small holdings to work & as such had a rifle.
The f***er shot a dog that came onto 'his' land & bothered sheep (although his own dogs were enough to get rid of the offending trespassing dog)
Basically he'd been waiting for an excuse to kill something as soon as hed got his gun.
didnt work for him on his next project & a few other trades declined.

Good man King- I hope sincerely hope karma comes to visit him one day!

 

PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 15 Aug 21 9.00pm

Originally posted by DanH

This is a monumental, and pretty repulsive leap, to blame men wanting to kill innocent people on the rise of feminism and progressive culture.

the Vikings, the Yamnaya , the conquistadors, Sir Francis Drake , Gengis Khan.

all driven by the fear of being a nobody and a need to get their rocks off.

 


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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 16 Aug 21 12.33am

An eclectic list


Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

the Vikings, the Yamnaya , the conquistadors, Sir Francis Drake , Gengis Khan.

all driven by the fear of being a nobody and a need to get their rocks off.

Edited by HKOwen (16 Aug 2021 12.35am)

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

Stirlingsays Flag 16 Aug 21 2.14am

Originally posted by DanH

This is a monumental, and pretty repulsive leap, to blame men wanting to kill innocent people on the rise of feminism and progressive culture.


The truth is the truth, how you feel about it is irrelevant.

Like I said, instead of reflective thought all you have is emotion.

Anyway, I think I was quite clear. This happened naturally before these progressive beliefs became mainstream. However, what they are to blame for is the increase in numbers.

And I explained why.

 


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DanH Flag SW2 16 Aug 21 8.08am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


The truth is the truth, how you feel about it is irrelevant.

Like I said, instead of reflective thought all you have is emotion.

Anyway, I think I was quite clear. This happened naturally before these progressive beliefs became mainstream. However, what they are to blame for is the increase in numbers.

And I explained why.

It’s not the truth; it’s your opinion. It reads like the manifesto of a chauvinist. Violent men are the fault of only themselves. Not women. Not feminism. Not progressive society. But Violent men who can’t keep their emotions in check.

Women and society owe men nothing.

Edited by DanH (16 Aug 2021 8.12am)

 

Spiderman Flag Horsham 16 Aug 21 8.19am

Originally posted by gambler

R.i.p. to the victims.

Thread didnt take long to go down the usual route did it.

I think the OP started it down the usual route

 

Wilesy01 Flag Bristol 16 Aug 21 8.41am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


The truth is the truth, how you feel about it is irrelevant.

Like I said, instead of reflective thought all you have is emotion.

Anyway, I think I was quite clear. This happened naturally before these progressive beliefs became mainstream. However, what they are to blame for is the increase in numbers.

And I explained why.

I wondered how long it would be before someone on here blamed the victims.

 

PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 16 Aug 21 9.58am

Originally posted by DanH

It’s not the truth; it’s your opinion. It reads like the manifesto of a chauvinist. Violent men are the fault of only themselves. Not women. Not feminism. Not progressive society. But Violent men who can’t keep their emotions in check.

Women and society owe men nothing.

Edited by DanH (16 Aug 2021 8.12am)

more feminist ramblings from your there.

Well dear, to follow your grasping logic...then men owe women nothing.

Shall we commence with dismantling the Welfare State that has created so many Incels ?.....the State replacing the man's traditional role as a provider.

Why should mr Jones, the taxpayer, pay to raise the kids of Chad & Tyrone ? Mr Jones is single & childless.

yup, no Incel epidemic in places like India, Turkey & Latin America. I wonder why that is ?

Edited by PalazioVecchio (16 Aug 2021 10.04am)

 


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Matov Flag 16 Aug 21 11.03am

Personally I think this Incel stuff is BS. This bloke was a f***-up with a terribly dysfunctional relationship with his mother. A story as old as human kind. The only modern twist is that these oxygen thieves now have a way of communicating with others of their type. Perhaps this does lead to a spiral of spite but unfortunately that Genie is well and truly out of the bottle now.

The real issue is how he got those guns back after events in December. That is the politics in all of this. Everything else is just heart-breakingly tragic.

 


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DanH Flag SW2 16 Aug 21 11.22am

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

more feminist ramblings from your there.

Well dear, to follow your grasping logic...then men owe women nothing.

Shall we commence with dismantling the Welfare State that has created so many Incels ?.....the State replacing the man's traditional role as a provider.

Why should mr Jones, the taxpayer, pay to raise the kids of Chad & Tyrone ? Mr Jones is single & childless.

yup, no Incel epidemic in places like India, Turkey & Latin America. I wonder why that is ?

Edited by PalazioVecchio (16 Aug 2021 10.04am)

So women should stay at home, clean the house, look after the kids and submit to their husband's sexual desires whenever he fancies it should they?

 

DanH Flag SW2 16 Aug 21 11.38am

Originally posted by Matov

Personally I think this Incel stuff is BS. This bloke was a f***-up with a terribly dysfunctional relationship with his mother. A story as old as human kind. The only modern twist is that these oxygen thieves now have a way of communicating with others of their type. Perhaps this does lead to a spiral of spite but unfortunately that Genie is well and truly out of the bottle now.

The real issue is how he got those guns back after events in December. That is the politics in all of this. Everything else is just heart-breakingly tragic.

This is true, but finding others online that think similarly help give validity to their f*cked up thoughts and empower them to act on them, as we have seen here.

Getting the guns back is well and truly a f*ck up and needs to be investigated and changes made fast.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 16 Aug 21 11.49am

Originally posted by Wilesy01

I wondered how long it would be before someone on here blamed the victims.

?

You can't read.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 16 Aug 21 12.00pm

Originally posted by DanH

It’s not the truth; it’s your opinion. It reads like the manifesto of a chauvinist. Violent men are the fault of only themselves. Not women. Not feminism. Not progressive society. But Violent men who can’t keep their emotions in check.

Women and society owe men nothing.

Edited by DanH (16 Aug 2021 8.12am)


Depending upon correct categorization violent men are apart of nature just as violent women are (just less of them), just as gay or alpha and beta males are.

Firstly, what I said was sociologically true, it isn't an opinion, you are just uneducated on the matter. Look into it if you don't believe me.

If society was sensible it would recognise the realities of male/female interactions and look to avoid a situation where competition between males was increased because that means more mating losers.

That's would be done for common sense reasons. This terrible terrible event is always going to happen, it's how often it occurs.

But instead the soy rule at the moment and we have mindless ideologs like you.

Besides like I said, watching his video I think this guy was using being an 'incel' as an excuse. He was very nihilistic and had significant social problems related to family.

Anyway you can deny if you wish to and use silly slogans as that's your choice. In the meantime reality continues.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Aug 2021 12.05pm)

 


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