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.TUX. Flag 18 Nov 19 8.30pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

That's cool, nothing to get involved in anyway.

There's been no private communication other than the email he sent.

Maybe there's been a rather large consumption of some mind altering substance.

Voodoo Jazzhat, we've all been there at times (i guess?).
Surprised with Steely tbh (i like him).

Hoping it's just 'a blip'.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 18 Nov 19 9.02pm

Originally posted by .TUX.

Voodoo Jazzhat, we've all been there at times (i guess?).
Surprised with Steely tbh (i like him).

Hoping it's just 'a blip'.

Perhaps it's all just a wind up.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

.TUX. Flag 18 Nov 19 9.15pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Perhaps it's all just a wind up.

Hopefully bud.

Seems a tad 'non-Steely' tbf. Hope he's ok.

 


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cpfc_chap Flag koh samui 18 Nov 19 9.28pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Hey everyone Steely just sent me this email....out of the blue.

'I reported you to police directly as you would not cease your online abuse of me and complaints to the moderators were ignored.

A file of the offending material has been provided and I have been instructed not to reply to your posts in future pending their investigations.'

The guy never asks me to stop replying to him or indicates a problem.....just sends me this.

Weird.

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Nov 2019 5.04pm)

What a snowflake

 

Stirlingsays Flag 19 Nov 19 7.17am

Originally posted by cpfc_chap

What a snowflake

Avalanche.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Midlands Eagle Flag 19 Nov 19 7.37am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Hey everyone Steely just sent me this email....out of the blue.

'I reported you to police directly as you would not cease your online abuse of me and complaints to the moderators were ignored.

A file of the offending material has been provided and I have been instructed not to reply to your posts in future pending their investigations.'

The guy never asks me to stop replying to him or indicates a problem.....just sends me this.

Weird.

I assume that it's a joke as steeleye isn't a recognizable person but an unidentifiable avatar much as you are

 

Stirlingsays Flag 19 Nov 19 8.12am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I assume that it's a joke as steeleye isn't a recognizable person but an unidentifiable avatar much as you are

I suspect it's more a middle finger as he goes.....as he hasn't posted since. Perhaps he'll come back and tell us.

I appear to have really bothered him it seems.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

chris123 Flag hove actually 19 Nov 19 8.27am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I suspect it's more a middle finger as he goes.....as he hasn't posted since. Perhaps he'll come back and tell us.

I appear to have really bothered him it seems.

Recherche du temps perdu.

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 19 Nov 19 9.33am

""The way we register for voting has changed in he last few years. It used to be that a form was sent to the home and one person would complete it on behalf of the family. So one form may have Mum Dad and 2 teenagers on it not that the teenagers even noticed.

Today each person is expected to register individually, however what is not clear just yet is do more or less people register. 1mm people in several weeks sounds a lot but it maybe that it is par for the course before an election it just wasn't noticed as they were previously group returns.

After the 2017 the media reported that the young turned our in droves to vote for Corbyn. Later I saw some research that suggested the youth turnout was not that much different from previous elections!

If they are registering in larger numbers and intend to vote that has to be a good thing and no doubt the pollsters will have to adjust their predications if they get it wrong yet again.

One final point you have to register each year so are they new voters are voters simply re-registering from last year?""
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Interesting update from my previous post from the Independent. According to them 9mm young people have not yet registered to vote.

[Link]

""Unfortunately the surge in applications to register barely scratches the surface when it comes to the up to 9.4 million thought to be missing from the electoral roll. Without a huge push this week, next month’s vote will be the ‘missing millions’ election – with young people, BME voters and many low-income voices left out of the debate. "

So Corbyn may not get his youthquake this time.

Edited by Badger11 (19 Nov 2019 9.33am)

 


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Matov Flag 19 Nov 19 10.11am

Originally posted by Badger11

So Corbyn may not get his youthquake this time.

Edited by Badger11 (19 Nov 2019 9.33am)

No but he is putting a lot of faith in turning the Muslim vote out for him.

[Link]

It was one of the things from his interview with Andrew Marr. 'Family reunification'. Several times it was mentioned with far stronger gusto than defending conventional EU related freedom of movement.

I guess all those postal votes amassed in Mosques and filled in en masse will be a big help.

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Stirlingsays Flag 19 Nov 19 10.18am

Originally posted by Matov

No but he is putting a lot of faith in turning the Muslim vote out for him.

[Link]

It was one of the things from his interview with Andrew Marr. 'Family reunification'. Several times it was mentioned with far stronger gusto than defending conventional EU related freedom of movement.

I guess all those postal votes amassed in Mosques and filled in en masse will be a big help.

The sign of the times to come.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

chris123 Flag hove actually 19 Nov 19 10.30am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The sign of the times to come.

Voila!!

 

Midlands Eagle Flag 19 Nov 19 10.43am

Originally posted by Badger11

Interesting update from my previous post from the Independent. According to them 9mm young people have not yet registered to vote.

[Link]

""Unfortunately the surge in applications to register barely scratches the surface when it comes to the up to 9.4 million thought to be missing from the electoral roll.

I wonder how many of the missing voters don't register as they wish to remain under the radar for a variety of fiscal reasons

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 19 Nov 19 10.48am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The sign of the times to come.

Glad I won’t be around to see it.

Hearing that on Andrew Marr was as desperate for power as you can get.

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 19 Nov 19 11.14am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I wonder how many of the missing voters don't register as they wish to remain under the radar for a variety of fiscal reasons

Certainly an element to that. If you are not paying child support you would not want to register. Likewise if you are living with someone who is claiming benefits as a single parent etc. again you would not register.

However from my experience as a Poll Clerk the most likely explanation is laziness / stupidity. Every election we would get a handful of people come in claiming they had registered who we couldn't find. Eventually they would admit it was several years ago or they had just moved to the area they just didn't get it's an annual thing.

By the way even if you don't vote these is one very good reason why you should still be on the electoral role. It is a key element in compiling your credit score so if you wonder why your score is too low that maybe one of the answers.

 


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becky Flag over the moon 19 Nov 19 11.24am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I wonder how many of the missing voters don't register as they wish to remain under the radar for a variety of fiscal reasons

That's ok - they'll be balanced out by those who register at home and at their place of education and use both votes in a GE, even if it is illegal!

 


A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 19 Nov 19 11.25am

Originally posted by Matov

No but he is putting a lot of faith in turning the Muslim vote out for him.

[Link]

It was one of the things from his interview with Andrew Marr. 'Family reunification'. Several times it was mentioned with far stronger gusto than defending conventional EU related freedom of movement.

I guess all those postal votes amassed in Mosques and filled in en masse will be a big help.

Maybe the voters like him so much they want to vote for him several times.

Actually this is the area of voter fraud that the public should be concerned about far more so than impersonation at the ballot box.

Immigrants are far more likely to be sceptical to intimidation from within their communities. A pakistani friend told me you get a knock on your door and the local "community" leader asks you to apply for a postal vote which he will help you complete. He also reminds you that back in the home country they know where you family live and as his family control that region....

I don't blame any immigrant who hands over their vote under those circumstances I would to. This is a consequence of making postal voting easy. Back in the day you had to have a reason e.g. policemen on duty are not allowed to vote or in my case as I was working the election I was not allowed to live the polling station to vote at my own station.

It's why I would not favour electronic voting either same problem how do we know that someone is not standing over your shoulder.

However Labour will do nothing as they are the main beneficiaries and the Tories are scared because of the R word. The real blame lies with the Electoral Commission which is supposed to be independent and must know where the loopholes are.

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 19 Nov 19 11.30am

Originally posted by becky

That's ok - they'll be balanced out by those who register at home and at their place of education and use both votes in a GE, even if it is illegal!

I have not seen any evidence that checks are made to ensure this does not happen. It is not illegal to register at your uni and your home address it is of course illegal to vote twice.

If the will was there it should be relatively easy to check the electoral rolls post election as every voter is ticked off. So a simple comparison would tell you who voted once and who voted twice. after that a stiff prison sentence for the offenders and the issue would be solved.

Don't hold your breath.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 19 Nov 19 1.57pm

Originally posted by Badger11

I have not seen any evidence that checks are made to ensure this does not happen. It is not illegal to register at your uni and your home address it is of course illegal to vote twice.

If the will was there it should be relatively easy to check the electoral rolls post election as every voter is ticked off. So a simple comparison would tell you who voted once and who voted twice. after that a stiff prison sentence for the offenders and the issue would be solved.

Don't hold your breath.

Why? Is Corbyn going to tax it?

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 19 Nov 19 3.52pm

Who's watching tonight?

So Boris and Jeremy are going head to head tonight but I won't be watching. To be honest whilst my mind is already made up it wouldn't make any difference if Corbyn wipes the floor with Johnson.

I don't judge politicians on their ability to debate but on their policies and their actions. Corbyn meeting terrorists weeks after they tried to murder the government speaks volumes of a the man and more importantly I don't like his policies.

The first major televised debate was Nixon Kennedy in 1960. Those who saw it said Kennedy won because he looked young and vigorous whilst Nixon looked old and unshaven. Apparently those that listened on the radio said Nixon won.

Anyway the die was cast but today they politicians are too well rehearsed and media savvy to say anything that we haven't heard already.

Boris will be a mess and bumble his way through not answering the questions but coming up with the occasional good line.

Corbyn will look good attacking the Tories (years of training as a protestor) but will look weak when he has to defend his own policies e.g. Brexit and Immigration.

And the public will probably wonder what is on the other side.

Now if Diane Abbott was to done one I would get the popcorn on and buckle up my seatbelt for car crash TV.

So are you watching?

Edited by Badger11 (19 Nov 2019 3.58pm)

 


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