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rikz Croydon 18 Apr 23 9.09am
Originally posted by Gribbo Might be appropriate to name the main stand after Roy, born in 1924, and Roy popped up shortly thereafter. Is our club really that tinpot ?

rikz

Croydon 18 Apr 23 9.09am

Originally posted by Gribbo

Might be appropriate to name the main stand after Roy, born in 1924, and Roy popped up shortly thereafter.

Is our club really that tinpot ?

PJEagle London 18 Apr 23 9.21am
Originally posted by rikz Is our club really that tinpot ? What's tinpot about honouring a manager who, in terms of keeping Palace in the PL, has made a greater contribution than anyone?

PJEagle

London 18 Apr 23 9.21am

Originally posted by rikz

Is our club really that tinpot ?

What's tinpot about honouring a manager who, in terms of keeping Palace in the PL, has made a greater contribution than anyone?

southnorwoodhill 18 Apr 23 9.27am
Originally posted by PJEagle What's tinpot about honouring a manager who, in terms of keeping Palace in the PL, has made a greater contribution than anyone? Don't you worry, Roy & Ray will have a statue placed along the Walk Of Fame leading up to the new stadium, alongside such luminaries as Sir Steve Coppell, Clinton Morrison, Geoff Thomas et al.

southnorwoodhill

18 Apr 23 9.27am

Originally posted by PJEagle

What's tinpot about honouring a manager who, in terms of keeping Palace in the PL, has made a greater contribution than anyone?

Don't you worry, Roy & Ray will have a statue placed along the Walk Of Fame leading up to the new stadium, alongside such luminaries as Sir Steve Coppell, Clinton Morrison, Geoff Thomas et al.

DANGERCLOSE London 18 Apr 23 9.38am
I would like Roy to stay on another season but will he bleed the younger players in?

DANGERCLOSE

London 18 Apr 23 9.38am

I would like Roy to stay on another season but will he bleed the younger players in?

Midlands Eagle 18 Apr 23 10.02am
Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE I would like Roy to stay on another season but will he bleed the younger players in? Which ones do you think are worth bleeding in bearing in mind Roy's orders from above will be to win as many games as possible

Midlands Eagle

18 Apr 23 10.02am

Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE

I would like Roy to stay on another season but will he bleed the younger players in?

Which ones do you think are worth bleeding in bearing in mind Roy's orders from above will be to win as many games as possible

Hrolf The Ganger 18 Apr 23 10.19am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle Which ones do you think are worth bleeding in bearing in mind Roy's orders from above will be to win as many games as possible People like to overcomplicate football. Roy was cautious when he was here before because we had a whole season of fixtures, half against teams who we have no business beating. His only mission this time was to win games against teams who are arguably worse than we are. He could afford to be positive. I didn't like the vibe under Vieira, it had clearly run out of steam and ideas, but our results from the run of fixtures before his departure was what you might expect give or take a few wasted points. Roy obviously doesn't have many more games left in him, age wise, and that is the only reason why we don't sign him up for another three years right now. He is as good as we could ever hope for. When Roy left it felt like it was the right time. This time round, if Roy keeps this form going till the end of the season, it might be a little harder for the next guy. Big shoes to fill.

Hrolf The Ganger

18 Apr 23 10.19am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Which ones do you think are worth bleeding in bearing in mind Roy's orders from above will be to win as many games as possible

People like to overcomplicate football.

Roy was cautious when he was here before because we had a whole season of fixtures, half against teams who we have no business beating.
His only mission this time was to win games against teams who are arguably worse than we are. He could afford to be positive.

I didn't like the vibe under Vieira, it had clearly run out of steam and ideas, but our results from the run of fixtures before his departure was what you might expect give or take a few wasted points.
Roy obviously doesn't have many more games left in him, age wise, and that is the only reason why we don't sign him up for another three years right now. He is as good as we could ever hope for.

When Roy left it felt like it was the right time. This time round, if Roy keeps this form going till the end of the season, it might be a little harder for the next guy. Big shoes to fill.

Croydon-Trucker 18 Apr 23 10.40am
Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE I would like Roy to stay on another season but will he bleed the younger players in? I think Roy sees everyone in our squad as a young player .

Croydon-Trucker

18 Apr 23 10.40am

Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE

I would like Roy to stay on another season but will he bleed the younger players in?

I think Roy sees everyone in our squad as a young player .

DANGERCLOSE London 18 Apr 23 11.24am
Like on Saturday Roy brings on Tomkins instead of Richards and where's Ahamada gone? And when Rak Saki comes back does he get a game or just 5 mins at the end of a match?

DANGERCLOSE

London 18 Apr 23 11.24am

Like on Saturday Roy brings on Tomkins instead of Richards and where's Ahamada gone?

And when Rak Saki comes back does he get a game or just 5 mins at the end of a match?

Mwncisee Middlesbrough 18 Apr 23 11.33am
A lot of background noise that Palace are the front runners to get Arne Slot. Trying to move to get him before Spurs and West Ham. Now being reported that Dougie has met with him.

Mwncisee

Middlesbrough 18 Apr 23 11.33am

A lot of background noise that Palace are the front runners to get Arne Slot. Trying to move to get him before Spurs and West Ham. Now being reported that Dougie has met with him.

thai-eagle chiang mai 18 Apr 23 11.49am
Arne Slot comes from the same country as a certain De Boer, right?

thai-eagle

chiang mai 18 Apr 23 11.49am

Arne Slot comes from the same country as a certain De Boer, right?

doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 18 Apr 23 11.55am
Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE Like on Saturday Roy brings on Tomkins instead of Richards and where's Ahamada gone? And when Rak Saki comes back does he get a game or just 5 mins at the end of a match? Hodgson has said he is sticking with experience on and from the bench until we're safe. Don't forget he's playing: - Olise 21 - Eze 24 - Doucoure 23 - Mitchell 23 so, he's not averse to including younger players.

doombear

Too far from Selhurst Park 18 Apr 23 11.55am

Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE

Like on Saturday Roy brings on Tomkins instead of Richards and where's Ahamada gone?

And when Rak Saki comes back does he get a game or just 5 mins at the end of a match?

Hodgson has said he is sticking with experience on and from the bench until we're safe. Don't forget he's playing:
- Olise 21
- Eze 24
- Doucoure 23
- Mitchell 23
so, he's not averse to including younger players.

Painter Croydon 18 Apr 23 12.00pm
Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE Like on Saturday Roy brings on Tomkins instead of Richards and where's Ahamada gone? And when Rak Saki comes back does he get a game or just 5 mins at the end of a match? He is here to get results, I doubt development of inexperienced youngsters is part of his brief.

Painter

Croydon 18 Apr 23 12.00pm

Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE

Like on Saturday Roy brings on Tomkins instead of Richards and where's Ahamada gone?

And when Rak Saki comes back does he get a game or just 5 mins at the end of a match?

He is here to get results, I doubt development of inexperienced youngsters is part of his brief.

Mwncisee Middlesbrough 18 Apr 23 12.06pm
Originally posted by thai-eagle Arne Slot comes from the same country as a certain De Boer, right? Yep. His record is good. Not massively experienced but has had success in each he has been at. Has most certainly got a record of getting the players at the clubs playing better than expected.

Mwncisee

Middlesbrough 18 Apr 23 12.06pm

Originally posted by thai-eagle

Arne Slot comes from the same country as a certain De Boer, right?

Yep. His record is good. Not massively experienced but has had success in each he has been at. Has most certainly got a record of getting the players at the clubs playing better than expected.

dg1937 18 Apr 23 1.09pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger People like to overcomplicate football. Roy was cautious when he was here before because we had a whole season of fixtures, half against teams who we have no business beating. His only mission this time was to win games against teams who are arguably worse than we are. He could afford to be positive. I didn't like the vibe under Vieira, it had clearly run out of steam and ideas, but our results from the run of fixtures before his departure was what you might expect give or take a few wasted points. Roy obviously doesn't have many more games left in him, age wise, and that is the only reason why we don't sign him up for another three years right now. He is as good as we could ever hope for. When Roy left it felt like it was the right time. This time round, if Roy keeps this form going till the end of the season, it might be a little harder for the next guy. Big shoes to fill. I do wonder whether Roy would have set the team up any differently from Pat in that tough run of games e.g. Man City at home where we might well have got a point had Olise not made a rash challenge in the box. Roy has undoubtedly brought a change of mood but he has done it against relatively weak opposition. And, when it comes to discussions about boring football we have seen over the years I am surprised that Dougie’s tenure apart from half a season or so never gets a mention. Edited by dg1937 (18 Apr 2023 1.10pm)

dg1937

18 Apr 23 1.09pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

People like to overcomplicate football.

When Roy left it felt like it was the right time. This time round, if Roy keeps this form going till the end of the season, it might be a little harder for the next guy. Big shoes to fill.

And, when it comes to discussions about boring football we have seen over the years I am surprised that Dougie’s tenure apart from half a season or so never gets a mention.

Edited by dg1937 (18 Apr 2023 1.10pm)

CrazyBadger Ware 18 Apr 23 2.59pm
Sheesh, people don't half like getting carried away on here, lol. I like RH, and and the first to admit that it I was wrong, and he has made a tremendous impact upon his return, but 3 games against bottom of the the league oppo is not enough of an indicator to judge exactly where we are. RH has come in, and we are playing with a renewed freedom - but let's not kid ourselves, in those 3 games there were times where we haven't competed and rode our Luck(aka 1st half vs leeds). In our last vs southampton, we didn't look anywhere near the attacking force we were (at times) vs Leeds or Leicester. He's been a breath of fresh air since the times of PV, but lets all remember the lesson Ole Gunnar Solskjær taught ManU fans. It's waaaay to soon, and with our remaining fixtures, the minimum I'd expect is comfortable safety, from any manager worth his salt. "It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"

CrazyBadger

Ware 18 Apr 23 2.59pm

Sheesh, people don't half like getting carried away on here, lol.

I like RH, and and the first to admit that it I was wrong, and he has made a tremendous impact upon his return, but 3 games against bottom of the the league oppo is not enough of an indicator to judge exactly where we are.

RH has come in, and we are playing with a renewed freedom - but let's not kid ourselves, in those 3 games there were times where we haven't competed and rode our Luck(aka 1st half vs leeds). In our last vs southampton, we didn't look anywhere near the attacking force we were (at times) vs Leeds or Leicester.

He's been a breath of fresh air since the times of PV, but lets all remember the lesson Ole Gunnar Solskjær taught ManU fans. It's waaaay to soon, and with our remaining fixtures, the minimum I'd expect is comfortable safety, from any manager worth his salt.

"It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"

Hrolf The Ganger 18 Apr 23 3.18pm
Originally posted by CrazyBadger Sheesh, people don't half like getting carried away on here, lol. I like RH, and and the first to admit that it I was wrong, and he has made a tremendous impact upon his return, but 3 games against bottom of the the league oppo is not enough of an indicator to judge exactly where we are. RH has come in, and we are playing with a renewed freedom - but let's not kid ourselves, in those 3 games there were times where we haven't competed and rode our Luck(aka 1st half vs leeds). In our last vs southampton, we didn't look anywhere near the attacking force we were (at times) vs Leeds or Leicester. He's been a breath of fresh air since the times of PV, but lets all remember the lesson Ole Gunnar Solskjær taught ManU fans. It's waaaay to soon, and with our remaining fixtures, the minimum I'd expect is comfortable safety, from any manager worth his salt. To be fair, we rode our luck under Vieira as well. We've had the rub of the green in terms of decisions this season. It's fair to say that Roy has to beat teams below us in the table, and he has a clearly defined target. PV was suffering from no wins syndrome. He had run out of zing. It was clear from his body language. It's tough being the manager when you aren't winning week after week, even if you are playing teams who higher in the league. Things were going from bad to worse in terms of performance, which didn't help.

Hrolf The Ganger

18 Apr 23 3.18pm

Originally posted by CrazyBadger

Sheesh, people don't half like getting carried away on here, lol.

To be fair, we rode our luck under Vieira as well.
We've had the rub of the green in terms of decisions this season.

It's fair to say that Roy has to beat teams below us in the table, and he has a clearly defined target. PV was suffering from no wins syndrome. He had run out of zing. It was clear from his body language. It's tough being the manager when you aren't winning week after week, even if you are playing teams who higher in the league.
Things were going from bad to worse in terms of performance, which didn't help.

Hrolf The Ganger 18 Apr 23 3.21pm
Originally posted by dg1937 I do wonder whether Roy would have set the team up any differently from Pat in that tough run of games e.g. Man City at home where we might well have got a point had Olise not made a rash challenge in the box. Roy has undoubtedly brought a change of mood but he has done it against relatively weak opposition. And, when it comes to discussions about boring football we have seen over the years I am surprised that Dougie’s tenure apart from half a season or so never gets a mention. Edited by dg1937 (18 Apr 2023 1.10pm) Roy was predictably and dull at times, but when you have had to sit through Peter Taylor's tenure on cold nights in the Championship, nothing seems that bad.

Hrolf The Ganger

18 Apr 23 3.21pm

Originally posted by dg1937

I do wonder whether Roy would have set the team up any differently from Pat in that tough run of games e.g. Man City at home where we might well have got a point had Olise not made a rash challenge in the box. Roy has undoubtedly brought a change of mood but he has done it against relatively weak opposition.

And, when it comes to discussions about boring football we have seen over the years I am surprised that Dougie’s tenure apart from half a season or so never gets a mention.

Edited by dg1937 (18 Apr 2023 1.10pm)

Roy was predictably and dull at times, but when you have had to sit through Peter Taylor's tenure on cold nights in the Championship, nothing seems that bad.

Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 18 Apr 23 3.26pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Roy was predictably and dull at times, but when you have had to sit through Peter Taylor's tenure on cold nights in the Championship, nothing seems that bad. That really was an awful time and for reasons just or not I still have nightmares about Mark Kennedy and Stuart Green being named in a Palace starting line up. Could never quite understand what either of them brought/did etc. Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Nicholas91

The Democratic Republic of Kent 18 Apr 23 3.26pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Roy was predictably and dull at times, but when you have had to sit through Peter Taylor's tenure on cold nights in the Championship, nothing seems that bad.

That really was an awful time and for reasons just or not I still have nightmares about Mark Kennedy and Stuart Green being named in a Palace starting line up.

Could never quite understand what either of them brought/did etc.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 18 Apr 23 4.49pm
Originally posted by CrazyBadger Sheesh, people don't half like getting carried away on here, lol. I like RH, and and the first to admit that it I was wrong, and he has made a tremendous impact upon his return, but 3 games against bottom of the the league oppo is not enough of an indicator to judge exactly where we are. RH has come in, and we are playing with a renewed freedom - but let's not kid ourselves, in those 3 games there were times where we haven't competed and rode our Luck(aka 1st half vs leeds). In our last vs southampton, we didn't look anywhere near the attacking force we were (at times) vs Leeds or Leicester. He's been a breath of fresh air since the times of PV, but lets all remember the lesson Ole Gunnar Solskjær taught ManU fans. It's waaaay to soon, and with our remaining fixtures, the minimum I'd expect is comfortable safety, from any manager worth his salt. Spot on Badger. Looking at our remaining fixtures, there's no reason we can't be aiming to hit the high 40s and even the 50 point mark - not because we're suddenly brilliant we're not - the teams we've just played were worse than us) but because all but 2 of our remaining games are against teams currently below us in the table. How near we get to 50 points with Hodgson at the helm will tell us how good his return has been.

doombear

Too far from Selhurst Park 18 Apr 23 4.49pm

Originally posted by CrazyBadger

Sheesh, people don't half like getting carried away on here, lol.

Spot on Badger.

Looking at our remaining fixtures, there's no reason we can't be aiming to hit the high 40s and even the 50 point mark - not because we're suddenly brilliant we're not - the teams we've just played were worse than us) but because all but 2 of our remaining games are against teams currently below us in the table. How near we get to 50 points with Hodgson at the helm will tell us how good his return has been.

ripleyeagle Ripley Surrey 18 Apr 23 6.09pm
Originally posted by rikz Is our club really that tinpot ? Leeds have the Don Revie stand, a most unpleasant person who walked out on England for Arab money. Roy is a true gent and Palace through and through.

ripleyeagle

Ripley Surrey 18 Apr 23 6.09pm

Originally posted by rikz

Is our club really that tinpot ?

Leeds have the Don Revie stand, a most unpleasant person who walked out on England for Arab money. Roy is a true gent and Palace through and through.

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