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elgrande bedford 12 Nov 17 10.18pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 Diversify with a magic money tree crop you mean? I like it. Not at all,a happy medium has to be found.the EU is pro big business,people will buy more uk produce when Brexit happens because they probaly have to. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

elgrande

bedford 12 Nov 17 10.18pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

Diversify with a magic money tree crop you mean? I like it.

Not at all,a happy medium has to be found.the EU is pro big business,people will buy more uk produce when Brexit happens because they probaly have to.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

Kermit8 Hevon 12 Nov 17 10.19pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 Ultimately the market will set prices and wages and which farmers are successful or not. Lack of labour help too don't forget. That will see some going to the wall not market forces. If the crops don't get picked even though the market wants them then that's them up the creek. And that will be down directly to Brexit. It's happening already the staff problems. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]

Kermit8

Hevon 12 Nov 17 10.19pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Ultimately the market will set prices and wages and which farmers are successful or not.

Lack of labour help too don't forget. That will see some going to the wall not market forces. If the crops don't get picked even though the market wants them then that's them up the creek. And that will be down directly to Brexit. It's happening already the staff problems.

Big chest and massive boobs

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Kermit8 Hevon 12 Nov 17 10.22pm
Originally posted by elgrande Not at all,a happy medium has to be found.the EU is pro big business,people will buy more uk produce when Brexit happens because they probaly have to. Costs for the consumer going up and choices going down it very much sounds like. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]

Kermit8

Hevon 12 Nov 17 10.22pm

Originally posted by elgrande

Not at all,a happy medium has to be found.the EU is pro big business,people will buy more uk produce when Brexit happens because they probaly have to.

Costs for the consumer going up and choices going down it very much sounds like.

Big chest and massive boobs

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hedgehog50 Croydon 12 Nov 17 10.22pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 Lack of labour help too don't forget. That will see some going to the wall not market forces. If the crops don't get picked even though the market wants them then that's them up the creek. And that will be down directly to Brexit. It's happening already the staff problems. Nothing to do with Brexit. It's market forces. If you can't get workers you need to make our jobs more attractive. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50

Croydon 12 Nov 17 10.22pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

Nothing to do with Brexit. It's market forces. If you can't get workers you need to make our jobs more attractive.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

elgrande bedford 12 Nov 17 10.23pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 Costs for the consumer going up and choices going down it very much sounds like. But wages for joe public could well rise,and i dont see why choices should go down,we will still be trading with other countries. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

elgrande

bedford 12 Nov 17 10.23pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

Costs for the consumer going up and choices going down it very much sounds like.

But wages for joe public could well rise,and i dont see why choices should go down,we will still be trading with other countries.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

Kermit8 Hevon 12 Nov 17 10.28pm
Originally posted by elgrande But wages for joe public could well rise,and i dont see why choices should go down,we will still be trading with other countries. Well, it is a truism that the nearer you trade the cheaper the expense. If...we have a no deal Brexit then it will take years to sort out the mess trade wise with our European friends so we will have to import from further afield. Thus, whilst costs to import will definitely go up then I also suspect the variety will also diminish because of those said costs. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]

Kermit8

Hevon 12 Nov 17 10.28pm

Originally posted by elgrande

But wages for joe public could well rise,and i dont see why choices should go down,we will still be trading with other countries.

Well, it is a truism that the nearer you trade the cheaper the expense. If...we have a no deal Brexit then it will take years to sort out the mess trade wise with our European friends so we will have to import from further afield.

Thus, whilst costs to import will definitely go up then I also suspect the variety will also diminish because of those said costs.

Big chest and massive boobs

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Kermit8 Hevon 12 Nov 17 10.32pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 Nothing to do with Brexit. It's market forces. If you can't get workers you need to make our jobs more attractive. Non-sense. Their income (the farmers) will be going down after Brexit and significantly for a fair few it is being reported because of predicted labour shortages yet you want them to pay more to attract British workers who aren't interested even at the £10-£12 an hour many agricultural farms pay for their pickers now. Plus, it's seasonal work so who will pay them over Xmas through to Spring? It has everything to do with Brexit. Edited by Kermit8 (12 Nov 2017 10.34pm) Big chest and massive boobs [Link]

Kermit8

Hevon 12 Nov 17 10.32pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Nothing to do with Brexit. It's market forces. If you can't get workers you need to make our jobs more attractive.

Non-sense. Their income (the farmers) will be going down after Brexit and significantly for a fair few it is being reported because of predicted labour shortages yet you want them to pay more to attract British workers who aren't interested even at the £10-£12 an hour many agricultural farms pay for their pickers now.

Plus, it's seasonal work so who will pay them over Xmas through to Spring?

It has everything to do with Brexit.

Edited by Kermit8 (12 Nov 2017 10.34pm)

Big chest and massive boobs

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simlaboy coulsdon 12 Nov 17 10.37pm
I’m sure a majority of farmers voted Leave ,

simlaboy

coulsdon 12 Nov 17 10.37pm

I’m sure a majority of farmers voted Leave ,

Kermit8 Hevon 12 Nov 17 10.40pm
Originally posted by simlaboy I’m sure a majority of farmers voted Leave , I think you are correct but here I am specifically focused on agricultural farmers not all inclusive with cattle and suchlike as the former depend on migrant and temporary EU workers much more than the others. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]

Kermit8

Hevon 12 Nov 17 10.40pm

Originally posted by simlaboy

I’m sure a majority of farmers voted Leave ,

I think you are correct but here I am specifically focused on agricultural farmers not all inclusive with cattle and suchlike as the former depend on migrant and temporary EU workers much more than the others.

Big chest and massive boobs

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Kermit8 Hevon 12 Nov 17 10.42pm
yes here we go " The latest online poll shows that of 1,400 active farmer respondents, 54 per cent voted to leave and 44 per cent voted to remain. 28 per cent thought they would be better off as a result of Brexit and 41 per cent thought they would be worse off (21 per cent about the same). Even among those who voted to leave, there has been a decline in optimism. Horticulture was the only sector in which more farmers voted to remain than leave. The sector is highly dependent on migrant labour from the EU." Some dude doing research Big chest and massive boobs [Link]

Kermit8

Hevon 12 Nov 17 10.42pm

yes here we go

" The latest online poll shows that of 1,400 active farmer respondents, 54 per cent voted to leave and 44 per cent voted to remain. 28 per cent thought they would be better off as a result of Brexit and 41 per cent thought they would be worse off (21 per cent about the same). Even among those who voted to leave, there has been a decline in optimism.

Horticulture was the only sector in which more farmers voted to remain than leave. The sector is highly dependent on migrant labour from the EU."

Some dude doing research

Big chest and massive boobs

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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 12 Nov 17 10.43pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 Non-sense. Their income (the farmers) will be going down after Brexit and significantly for a fair few it is being reported because of predicted labour shortages yet you want them to pay more to attract British workers who aren't interested even at the £10-£12 an hour many agricultural farms pay for their pickers now. Plus, it's seasonal work so who will pay them over Xmas through to Spring? It has everything to do with Brexit. Edited by Kermit8 (12 Nov 2017 10.34pm) Correct. A bit like getting a job at Marks & Spencer's or working over the holiday period at The Post Office Pro USA & Israel

Jimenez

SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 12 Nov 17 10.43pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

Plus, it's seasonal work so who will pay them over Xmas through to Spring?

It has everything to do with Brexit.

Edited by Kermit8 (12 Nov 2017 10.34pm)

Correct. A bit like getting a job at Marks & Spencer's or working over the holiday period at The Post Office

Pro USA & Israel

simlaboy coulsdon 12 Nov 17 10.49pm
Think you’re find the temporary EU workforce are exploited by the Labour agencies engaged by the farmers , the farmers don’t employed them directly ,they just make payments over to the agency , end of their responsibility, no H&S, welfare facilities and biggest bonus no interference from HMRC

simlaboy

coulsdon 12 Nov 17 10.49pm

Think you’re find the temporary EU workforce are exploited by the Labour agencies engaged by the farmers , the farmers don’t employed them directly ,they just make payments over to the agency , end of their responsibility, no H&S, welfare facilities and biggest bonus no interference from HMRC

simlaboy coulsdon 12 Nov 17 10.51pm
Nice piece of research BTW, obviously paid attention at Kensington Avenue

simlaboy

coulsdon 12 Nov 17 10.51pm

Nice piece of research BTW, obviously paid attention at Kensington Avenue

.TUX. 13 Nov 17 6.04am
Originally posted by elgrande Raise them enough so families can afford to do them,i know farmers have used foreign labour for years,and its work very well. But we need to pay enough so families can do them,and the supermarkets will have to pay more for their produce,ideal time with brexit. And on a side note,I notice HSBC have now said that it won't be as bad as they first forecast. Agreed, but it won't happen due to the impact on inflation. Since the end of Bretton Woods in 1971, govts (or those in power) have been fighting the inflationary forces that they themselves have deliberately caused to feather the nests of the elite. Wealth confiscation through globalisation, wage suppression and ever-increasing taxes being the tools of choice which limit the amount of income available to the masses. In general, nan and gramps could pretty much live happily on one wage. Today they'd need two. This is mainly due to the continual, and deliberate, devaluation of our currency since '71. Buy Litecoin.

.TUX.

13 Nov 17 6.04am

Originally posted by elgrande

Raise them enough so families can afford to do them,i know farmers have used foreign labour for years,and its work very well.
But we need to pay enough so families can do them,and the supermarkets will have to pay more for their produce,ideal time with brexit.

And on a side note,I notice HSBC have now said that it won't be as bad as they first forecast.

Agreed, but it won't happen due to the impact on inflation.
Since the end of Bretton Woods in 1971, govts (or those in power) have been fighting the inflationary forces that they themselves have deliberately caused to feather the nests of the elite.
Wealth confiscation through globalisation, wage suppression and ever-increasing taxes being the tools of choice which limit the amount of income available to the masses.
In general, nan and gramps could pretty much live happily on one wage. Today they'd need two. This is mainly due to the continual, and deliberate, devaluation of our currency since '71.

Buy Litecoin.

hedgehog50 Croydon 13 Nov 17 8.28am
Originally posted by Kermit8 Non-sense. Their income (the farmers) will be going down after Brexit and significantly for a fair few it is being reported because of predicted labour shortages yet you want them to pay more to attract British workers who aren't interested even at the £10-£12 an hour many agricultural farms pay for their pickers now. Plus, it's seasonal work so who will pay them over Xmas through to Spring? It has everything to do with Brexit. Edited by Kermit8 (12 Nov 2017 10.34pm) Nonsense, it's just the usual torrent of misinformation, scaremongering, end of the world scenarios, constantly churned out by the Remain at all costs brigade. Left wingers becoming the 'champions' of farmers whom they despise as fox-hunting toffs most of the time, champions of businesses whom they normally see as the root of all capitalist evil - now they are worried about their profits suffering! We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50

Croydon 13 Nov 17 8.28am

Originally posted by Kermit8

Plus, it's seasonal work so who will pay them over Xmas through to Spring?

It has everything to do with Brexit.

Edited by Kermit8 (12 Nov 2017 10.34pm)

Nonsense, it's just the usual torrent of misinformation, scaremongering, end of the world scenarios, constantly churned out by the Remain at all costs brigade. Left wingers becoming the 'champions' of farmers whom they despise as fox-hunting toffs most of the time, champions of businesses whom they normally see as the root of all capitalist evil - now they are worried about their profits suffering!

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

Rudi Hedman Caterham 13 Nov 17 12.28pm
In Lincolnshire there's loads of tracksuit wearing, white British youngsters complaining about immigration and lack of jobs with a can of lager on the high street when plenty of eu immigrants live 4 to a room in 3 bedroom houses. There's one solution right there. No doubt the same in Gillingham or Maidstone etc. COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 13 Nov 17 12.28pm

In Lincolnshire there's loads of tracksuit wearing, white British youngsters complaining about immigration and lack of jobs with a can of lager on the high street when plenty of eu immigrants live 4 to a room in 3 bedroom houses. There's one solution right there. No doubt the same in Gillingham or Maidstone etc.

COYP

hedgehog50 Croydon 13 Nov 17 12.52pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman In Lincolnshire there's loads of tracksuit wearing, white British youngsters complaining about immigration and lack of jobs with a can of lager on the high street when plenty of eu immigrants live 4 to a room in 3 bedroom houses. There's one solution right there. No doubt the same in Gillingham or Maidstone etc. What do you mean? What is the solution? We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50

Croydon 13 Nov 17 12.52pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

In Lincolnshire there's loads of tracksuit wearing, white British youngsters complaining about immigration and lack of jobs with a can of lager on the high street when plenty of eu immigrants live 4 to a room in 3 bedroom houses. There's one solution right there. No doubt the same in Gillingham or Maidstone etc.

What do you mean? What is the solution?

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

Rudi Hedman Caterham 13 Nov 17 2.04pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 What do you mean? What is the solution? Out of work young people having job vacancies to apply for that they're moaning aren't there because of migrant workers. COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 13 Nov 17 2.04pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

What do you mean? What is the solution?

Out of work young people having job vacancies to apply for that they're moaning aren't there because of migrant workers.

COYP

Hansy 16 Nov 17 4.24pm
I'm laughing at these Russian twitter interference claims. Didn't the young blame the elder generation for Brexit being voted on? How many of the elder generation have twitter. The largest account that was apparently pushing brexit and linked to Russia had 16k followers......

Hansy

16 Nov 17 4.24pm

I'm laughing at these Russian twitter interference claims. Didn't the young blame the elder generation for Brexit being voted on? How many of the elder generation have twitter.

The largest account that was apparently pushing brexit and linked to Russia had 16k followers......

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 16 Nov 17 9.37pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 Nonsense, it's just the usual torrent of misinformation, scaremongering, end of the world scenarios, constantly churned out by the Remain at all costs brigade. Left wingers becoming the 'champions' of farmers whom they despise as fox-hunting toffs most of the time, champions of businesses whom they normally see as the root of all capitalist evil - now they are worried about their profits suffering! Bloody misleading remoaner cunds... [Tweet Link]

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 16 Nov 17 9.37pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Bloody misleading remoaner cunds...

[Tweet Link]

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