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Originally posted by Crystal_Clear
Yep, the current scenario cannot go on any longer. 1. The manager's contract expires at the end of the season. He will be 74 at the start of next season. Will he realistically carry on again ? He is already the oldest ever top flight manager when he reached 71. 2. Our squad is really starting to age now. Players are getting into their 30's rather than reaching 30 now. That's without all those out of contract. The club are in situation where things simply can't carry on. I would expect us to survive again this season, and maybe reach mid table status (10-12). But come the summer we will be in all sorts of problems if things are sorted out soon. Otherwise we will be a typical Palace situation of searching for a new manager in the summer, then trying to get new players in (which we are not particularly great in sorting quickly). This is interesting however, Roy can’t do anything about his age and the transition of changing an old squad to a younger one isn’t going to happen overnight. Also, why do so many people make the assumption that if our average squad age is drastically reduced, this is going to equate to a sudden upturn in points? Experience counts for a lot.
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Originally posted by alexdyoung87
This is interesting however, Roy can’t do anything about his age and the transition of changing an old squad to a younger one isn’t going to happen overnight. Also, why do so many people make the assumption that if our average squad age is drastically reduced, this is going to equate to a sudden upturn in points? Experience counts for a lot. There is no point writing good honest common sense on here, they just keep on coming back with utter trash.
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Originally posted by alexdyoung87
This is interesting however, Roy can’t do anything about his age and the transition of changing an old squad to a younger one isn’t going to happen overnight. Also, why do so many people make the assumption that if our average squad age is drastically reduced, this is going to equate to a sudden upturn in points? Experience counts for a lot. I’m afraid many of our defensive and midfield frailties arise through a lack of pace and pace is the unfortunate casualty of age. A blend of youth and experience is required, our balance of the two leans more toward the retirement home end of the spectrum.
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
I’m afraid many of our defensive and midfield frailties arise through a lack of pace and pace is the unfortunate casualty of age. A blend of youth and experience is required, our balance of the two leans more toward the retirement home end of the spectrum.
Meanwhile let's get behind Roy and the team.
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Originally posted by doombear
Meanwhile let's get behind Roy and the team. Have never stopped on match day. Had a few problems in between matches though! Ironically, I think we are now playing the best football since Roy has arrived and we have improved tactically, so I’ve definitely cut back on criticism since the debacle of the Chelsea and Brighton performances. The cracks are there for all to see however and we are going to need some highly flexible filler very soon.
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
Have never stopped on match day. Had a few problems in between matches though! Ironically, I think we are now playing the best football since Roy has arrived and we have improved tactically, so I’ve definitely cut back on criticism since the debacle of the Chelsea and Brighton performances. The cracks are there for all to see however and we are going to need some highly flexible filler very soon. Sadly I am of the opinion that we are about to reach the head of the snake with little prospect of climbing up the ladder.
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Originally posted by Willo
Sadly I am of the opinion that we are about to reach the head of the snake with little prospect of climbing up the ladder. totally agree with this, as im seeing it already! we only play down the left side of the pitch! wont take long at all
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Originally posted by Crystal_Clear
Yep, the current scenario cannot go on any longer. 1. The manager's contract expires at the end of the season. He will be 74 at the start of next season. Will he realistically carry on again ? He is already the oldest ever top flight manager when he reached 71. 2. Our squad is really starting to age now. Players are getting into their 30's rather than reaching 30 now. That's without all those out of contract. The club are in situation where things simply can't carry on. I would expect us to survive again this season, and maybe reach mid table status (10-12). But come the summer we will be in all sorts of problems if things are sorted out soon. Otherwise we will be a typical Palace situation of searching for a new manager in the summer, then trying to get new players in (which we are not particularly great in sorting quickly). Some valid points,Roy deserves to enjoy his long deserved retirement and cannot go on for ever!!
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Originally posted by AERO
With the important January transfer window coming up ,Will SP give Roy the funds to do business? Or wil he get a fresh manager in for the obvious rehaul that is needed to an ageing squad ? I think the latter . This WILL come as a surprise to me and perhaps thousands others!
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Originally posted by AERO
With the important January transfer window coming up ,Will SP give Roy the funds to do business? Or wil he get a fresh manager in for the obvious rehaul that is needed to an ageing squad ? I think the latter . January is not the window for an overhaul of the squad. Given our current points total there is absolutely no reason to replace the manager at this stage either.
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Originally posted by AERO
With the important January transfer window coming up ,Will SP give Roy the funds to do business? Or wil he get a fresh manager in for the obvious rehaul that is needed to an ageing squad ? I think the latter .
If the youngsters were under 21 as at 1 Jan this year then they can be included in our first team squad without having to exclude existing members. However, I do wonder as has been said on another thread today whether Batshuayi will be looking for another loan move so as to try and get more game time. As for Roy, make of this reply to a question what you will: "I still get as much pleasure from watching the games of football and in particular from training and preparing the games as I've always had. So all the time that that lasts, there's no reason for me to consider leaving it behind because I know that when the day comes, when I do make a decision to leave the game behind and to not give myself the benefits of training every day, having matches every weekend, I'm going to miss it." I interpret it as saying "As long as I can still hack it as a manager on the training ground etc., I intend to carry on managing a football club". So, basically, if he wants to carry on next year and the board are happy with him, Roy will still be our manager. The only thing in my book that might change that scenario is relegation and I do not expect that this season.
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Originally posted by doombear
If the youngsters were under 21 as at 1 Jan this year then they can be included in our first team squad without having to exclude existing members. However, I do wonder as has been said on another thread today whether Batshuayi will be looking for another loan move so as to try and get more game time. As for Roy, make of this reply to a question what you will: "I still get as much pleasure from watching the games of football and in particular from training and preparing the games as I've always had. So all the time that that lasts, there's no reason for me to consider leaving it behind because I know that when the day comes, when I do make a decision to leave the game behind and to not give myself the benefits of training every day, having matches every weekend, I'm going to miss it." I interpret it as saying "As long as I can still hack it as a manager on the training ground etc., I intend to carry on managing a football club". So, basically, if he wants to carry on next year and the board are happy with him, Roy will still be our manager. The only thing in my book that might change that scenario is relegation and I do not expect that this season. In the scenario whereby we remain in the PL and Roy Hodgson is at the helm at the end of the season, I suspect the hierarchy will wish him to continue and if he still wishes to do so then he will be our manager next season. He will have ensured survival for 4 seasons on a limited spend and the sole objective is to remain in the hallowed land of the PL so I cannot foresee the 'Board' wishing to make any changes. Edited by Willo (23 Dec 2020 1.16pm)
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Originally posted by NEILLO
January is not the window for an overhaul of the squad. Given our current points total there is absolutely no reason to replace the manager at this stage either. I agree. Overhauling squads is expensive, unpredictable, and can lead to unrest. Ferguson would only make one or two changes each window. The most important thing is to spend the right amount on the right players. Allardyce signed 4 players. Two of them left backs because we had none in the squad. Souare not have had an accident it would have potentially only taken Sakho and Luka to achieve a significant improvement in performance. Even Sheffield United could start turning round their run of narrow defeats with only 3 successful signings. Plus there's no room in the squad.
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Originally posted by Dougie
Is this a Palace supporters web site? Most contributors seem to hate the club and everything that is being achieved. They seem to have the same expectations as big rich clubs so go away you lot and support them. You should see what other fans say about their own clubs, this is pretty easy going on here... Back to Roy, he stays that’s ok by me. You watch the Premiership manager merry go round once we head into 2021. Potter the PE teacher down at Brighton, the UBER is on its way along the coastal road!
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Originally posted by Gary St.Andrews
You should see what other fans say about their own clubs, this is pretty easy going on here... Back to Roy, he stays that’s ok by me. You watch the Premiership manager merry go round once we head into 2021. Potter the PE teacher down at Brighton, the UBER is on its way along the coastal road! I thought w#nker Potter more as a scout master! ( he is tying himself in knots)
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