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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 06 Oct 17 8.42pm

Getting back to the con/conference,,,,pure entertainment! politics is a lot more interesting than watching the footy these days, well, the cons for sure, cant wait for the next chapter!

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 06 Oct 17 8.42pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

The point about honour killings was made by your twin, I was merely pointing out the hyperbole. You seem to say Irish people aren't proper immigrants because they look like some of the rest of us. Interesting view point.

One of the points made earlier was about 'significance', it is only recently we have had significant immigration. Clearly that is wrong, it is cyclical. It isn't even correct for the 20th century and neither is it correct for the 19th century. Yet somehow we seem to be fed the line that we have just entered the dark ages whereas 30 years ago all was sweetness and light because we didn't have this dreadful, disruptive immigration

I suggest swap the word Muslim for Catholic or Jew and you can find many historic parallels.

The Irish are certainly very similar genetically to other 'celtic' types in the rest of Britain. Their impact was signoficant in terms of the friction it caused and the labour force it created.

In terms of numbers, it is the equivalent of about 4 years of current net migration which goes on year after year. If that is the best you can come up with in terms of historic migration parallells then you better give up now.

 

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 06 Oct 17 8.44pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

You're part Irish and I'm half-Scottish. We engage. Add fully English Hedgie to the convo then it proves multi-culturalism can work.

I'd like to buy the world a coke....

Does this make me the English ambassadorial diplomat of the HOL?

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 06 Oct 17 8.47pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Wrong again - like most of your 'twins'. From the excellent Immigration Watch:
"A study of official census records from 1851 until the present shows that the number of people born abroad living in Britain was very small until the middle of the twentieth century and that the growth of this population between censuses was quite slow. Indeed, in the eighty years between 1851 and 1931, the population born abroad increased by only about one million. It increased slowly after the Second World War, growing by less than two million in the forty years between 1951 and 1991. In the late 1990s the pace and scale of migration increased to a level without historical precedent. Indeed the foreign born population of England and Wales more than doubled, increasing by nearly four million in the twenty years between the 1991 and 2011 censuses. It has now reached 13.4% of our population. This massive increase dwarfs the scale of any previous inflow in our history."

They are clutching at straws and they know it.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 06 Oct 17 8.58pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

They are clutching at straws and they know it.

What s this obfuscation got to do with the conference?


I've seen numbers of immigrants, but what about % jumps in population due to different immigrant waves?

How does this compare to other countries immigration figures?

Edited by nickgusset (06 Oct 2017 9.00pm)

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 06 Oct 17 9.24pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

What s this obfuscation got to do with the conference?


I've seen numbers of immigrants, but what about % jumps in population due to different immigrant waves?

How does this compare to other countries immigration figures?

Edited by nickgusset (06 Oct 2017 9.00pm)


If I understood the question or the relevance to the current discussion, I might answer it.

The conference has finished.

 

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View Bert the Head's Profile Bert the Head Flag Epsom 07 Oct 17 12.44am Send a Private Message to Bert the Head Add Bert the Head as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger


If I understood the question or the relevance to the current discussion, I might answer it.

The conference has finished.

Understanding the question has never stopped you before.
Thump the key board fella. Thump the keyboard.

 

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View Bert the Head's Profile Bert the Head Flag Epsom 07 Oct 17 12.50am Send a Private Message to Bert the Head Add Bert the Head as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

That is interesting what is your source for the statistics?


They are clutching at straws and they know it.

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 07 Oct 17 11.19am

But do they sell popcorn at the con ference?

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 07 Oct 17 12.33pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

I should listen to a man who can't quote a post properly?

The data on population is out there for all to see.

All this nonsense about historic comparisons is so tired and simply daft.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 07 Oct 17 2.36pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

I consider New Addington to be a community. What is interesting is how its make-up keeps changing. Recently went through an African bulge, now Polish. They all seem to rub along quite well and definitely have a sense of community. Croydon seems to me to be a good example that we don't have to build communities on ethnic grounds but I do think shared schooling is absolutely crucial to break down the barriers. That is why I have concerns over recent policies towards single-religion schools.

Yes I've heard there's a lot of black people in new Addington now. A few years after a large BNP vote, but they would've been mainly placed there rather than buy there.

 


COYP

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 07 Oct 17 3.06pm

In an earlier post I quoted some figure from what I called 'Immigration Watch'. That name is incorrect, it should be 'Migration Watch'. I recommend a browse of their website to read some sense about the situation.
[Link]

 


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