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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 29 Aug 23 4.07pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 The ULEZ extension widens the tax on dirty air and should be welcomed. Ultimately, we should be moving towards a full road-pricing system that accounts for the social and environmental costs of driving. Ulez may not be perfect, but it is a step in the right direction towards making the polluter pay. Sunak and Starmer just a couple of snake-oil salesmen, shabby opportunists with no policies except to chase the next vote. I'm sure its implementation will be smooth, not at all costly, or at all likely to be a debacle. Khan is just so competent - his record on everything else he promised does nothing except back that up. This won't rile up voters whatsoever. Everyone loves a green tax. London is so bad it's become like the smog the Limehouse Golem used to hide in. Real pea soupers. Khan to the rescue once again. Like St George killing the Dragon - an analogy I'm sure Khan would be proud of. Red and Blue Army!

ASCPFC

Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 29 Aug 23 4.07pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

The ULEZ extension widens the tax on dirty air and should be welcomed.

Ultimately, we should be moving towards a full road-pricing system that accounts for the social and environmental costs of driving. Ulez may not be perfect, but it is a step in the right direction towards making the polluter pay.

Sunak and Starmer just a couple of snake-oil salesmen, shabby opportunists with no policies except to chase the next vote.

I'm sure its implementation will be smooth, not at all costly, or at all likely to be a debacle. Khan is just so competent - his record on everything else he promised does nothing except back that up. This won't rile up voters whatsoever. Everyone loves a green tax. London is so bad it's become like the smog the Limehouse Golem used to hide in. Real pea soupers. Khan to the rescue once again. Like St George killing the Dragon - an analogy I'm sure Khan would be proud of.

Red and Blue Army!

Teddy Eagle 29 Aug 23 4.58pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC I'm sure its implementation will be smooth, not at all costly, or at all likely to be a debacle. Khan is just so competent - his record on everything else he promised does nothing except back that up. This won't rile up voters whatsoever. Everyone loves a green tax. London is so bad it's become like the smog the Limehouse Golem used to hide in. Real pea soupers. Khan to the rescue once again. Like St George killing the Dragon - an analogy I'm sure Khan would be proud of. The Golem problem has eased since their top boy went to Bayern Munich.

Teddy Eagle

29 Aug 23 4.58pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

The Golem problem has eased since their top boy went to Bayern Munich.

ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 29 Aug 23 5.15pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle The Golem problem has eased since their top boy went to Bayern Munich. Red and Blue Army!

ASCPFC

Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 29 Aug 23 5.15pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

The Golem problem has eased since their top boy went to Bayern Munich.

Red and Blue Army!

cryrst The garden of England 29 Aug 23 6.05pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 The ULEZ extension widens the tax on dirty air and should be welcomed. Ultimately, we should be moving towards a full road-pricing system that accounts for the social and environmental costs of driving. Ulez may not be perfect, but it is a step in the right direction towards making the polluter pay. Sunak and Starmer just a couple of snake-oil salesmen, shabby opportunists with no policies except to chase the next vote. And you reward your green guests with discounts at your hotel ? Nah thought not !

cryrst

The garden of England 29 Aug 23 6.05pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

The ULEZ extension widens the tax on dirty air and should be welcomed.

Sunak and Starmer just a couple of snake-oil salesmen, shabby opportunists with no policies except to chase the next vote.

And you reward your green guests with discounts at your hotel ?
Nah thought not !

Spiderman Horsham 29 Aug 23 6.11pm
Originally posted by Mapletree It's not so long ago you couldn't drive in the south pole. Thank goodness for climate change At least farming does its bit for climate change [Link] Edited by Spiderman (29 Aug 2023 6.14pm)

Spiderman

Horsham 29 Aug 23 6.11pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

It's not so long ago you couldn't drive in the south pole. Thank goodness for climate change

At least farming does its bit for climate change

[Link]

Edited by Spiderman (29 Aug 2023 6.14pm)

Spiderman Horsham 29 Aug 23 6.16pm
Originally posted by cryrst And you reward your green guests with discounts at your hotel ? Nah thought not ! Of course he does, also cheaper rates for remainers. Well above minimum wage for EU workers as well, no doubt

Spiderman

Horsham 29 Aug 23 6.16pm

Originally posted by cryrst

And you reward your green guests with discounts at your hotel ?
Nah thought not !

Of course he does, also cheaper rates for remainers. Well above minimum wage for EU workers as well, no doubt

YT Oxford 29 Aug 23 6.40pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 The ULEZ extension widens the tax on dirty air and should be welcomed. Ultimately, we should be moving towards a full road-pricing system that accounts for the social and environmental costs of driving. Ulez may not be perfect, but it is a step in the right direction towards making the polluter pay. Sunak and Starmer just a couple of snake-oil salesmen, shabby opportunists with no policies except to chase the next vote. If ULEZ was about clean air, then the high-polluting vehicles would be fined heavily on entering the zone, not issued with a day permit. Fines, thus effectively bans, are what happen in all the EU countries that you love so much. ULEZ is simply a money-making scam. It's Labour's 'poll tax' moment. Edited by YT (29 Aug 2023 6.41pm) Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

Oxford 29 Aug 23 6.40pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

The ULEZ extension widens the tax on dirty air and should be welcomed.

Sunak and Starmer just a couple of snake-oil salesmen, shabby opportunists with no policies except to chase the next vote.

If ULEZ was about clean air, then the high-polluting vehicles would be fined heavily on entering the zone, not issued with a day permit. Fines, thus effectively bans, are what happen in all the EU countries that you love so much. ULEZ is simply a money-making scam. It's Labour's 'poll tax' moment.

Edited by YT (29 Aug 2023 6.41pm)

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

steeleye20 Croydon 29 Aug 23 7.00pm
Khan just aid pay per mile or similar not on the agenda at the next election.

steeleye20

Croydon 29 Aug 23 7.00pm

Khan just aid pay per mile or similar not on the agenda at the next election.

eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 29 Aug 23 7.07pm
Originally posted by YT If ULEZ was about clean air, then the high-polluting vehicles would be fined heavily on entering the zone, not issued with a day permit. Fines, thus effectively bans, are what happen in all the EU countries that you love so much. ULEZ is simply a money-making scam. It's Labour's 'poll tax' moment. Edited by YT (29 Aug 2023 6.41pm) They are, LGV's & PCV's are charged at over £100 per vehicle per day, bringing materials to build his 'vision' & bringing in money paying pax into London. #notmymayor This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

eagleman13

On The Road To Hell & Alicante 29 Aug 23 7.07pm

Originally posted by YT

Edited by YT (29 Aug 2023 6.41pm)

They are, LGV's & PCV's are charged at over £100 per vehicle per day, bringing materials to build his 'vision' & bringing in money paying pax into London. #notmymayor

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

YT Oxford 29 Aug 23 7.11pm
Originally posted by eagleman13 They are, LGV's & PCV's are charged at over £100 per vehicle per day, bringing materials to build his 'vision' & bringing in money paying pax into London. #notmymayor Sorry, I was actually talking about cars, but I didn't know the detail you've elaborated on, so thanks for the heads-up. Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

Oxford 29 Aug 23 7.11pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

They are, LGV's & PCV's are charged at over £100 per vehicle per day, bringing materials to build his 'vision' & bringing in money paying pax into London. #notmymayor

Sorry, I was actually talking about cars, but I didn't know the detail you've elaborated on, so thanks for the heads-up.

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

Spiderman Horsham 29 Aug 23 7.12pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Khan just aid pay per mile or similar not on the agenda at the next election. Ok

Spiderman

Horsham 29 Aug 23 7.12pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Khan just aid pay per mile or similar not on the agenda at the next election.

Badger11 Beckenham 29 Aug 23 7.32pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 The ULEZ extension widens the tax on dirty air and should be welcomed. Ultimately, we should be moving towards a full road-pricing system that accounts for the social and environmental costs of driving. Ulez may not be perfect, but it is a step in the right direction towards making the polluter pay. Sunak and Starmer just a couple of snake-oil salesmen, shabby opportunists with no policies except to chase the next vote. Yup I hear the pollution in villages such as Chelsfield and Downe is terrible. Still not to worry the public transport is excellent. One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 29 Aug 23 7.32pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

The ULEZ extension widens the tax on dirty air and should be welcomed.

Sunak and Starmer just a couple of snake-oil salesmen, shabby opportunists with no policies except to chase the next vote.

Yup I hear the pollution in villages such as Chelsfield and Downe is terrible. Still not to worry the public transport is excellent.

One more point

eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 29 Aug 23 7.43pm
Originally posted by YT Sorry, I was actually talking about cars, but I didn't know the detail you've elaborated on, so thanks for the heads-up. No problem my friend, I knew what you were alluding to, just thought it was important to mention. It's a tax plain& simple. When did £12.50 make the air cleaner? Where are the giant fans to blow the nasty air in London away? Why does Sad Dick Khunt have a fleet of 8 diesel 'Chelsea Tractors' to run him about, bearing in mind, he doesn't use City Hall. Sorry, had rant moment there, can't stand the tw@t. This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

eagleman13

On The Road To Hell & Alicante 29 Aug 23 7.43pm

Originally posted by YT

Sorry, I was actually talking about cars, but I didn't know the detail you've elaborated on, so thanks for the heads-up.

No problem my friend, I knew what you were alluding to, just thought it was important to mention. It's a tax plain& simple. When did £12.50 make the air cleaner? Where are the giant fans to blow the nasty air in London away? Why does Sad Dick Khunt have a fleet of 8 diesel 'Chelsea Tractors' to run him about, bearing in mind, he doesn't use City Hall.

Sorry, had rant moment there, can't stand the tw@t.

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

PalazioVecchio south pole 29 Aug 23 7.49pm
well the filthy Air Pollution Giants of Eastern Europe & Russia ?They will all be ever so grateful. Grateful that the London air, that blows over them, is so much cleaner. considering all the money involved. They must think we are all a pack of mugs. Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

PalazioVecchio

south pole 29 Aug 23 7.49pm

well the filthy Air Pollution Giants of Eastern Europe & Russia ?They will all be ever so grateful. Grateful that the London air, that blows over them, is so much cleaner.

considering all the money involved. They must think we are all a pack of mugs.

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

Mapletree Croydon 03 Sep 23 10.28pm
Originally posted by Spiderman At least farming does its bit for climate change [Link] Edited by Spiderman (29 Aug 2023 6.14pm) Factory farming is bad. But it may be best if we do keep farming. Therefore we must change farming methods. The uk led the world. But then we had this government. We now cannot easily prevent importing food produced in far less environmentally aware countries and are presiding over a failing farming system. This is an example of what can be done [Link]

Mapletree

Croydon 03 Sep 23 10.28pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

At least farming does its bit for climate change

[Link]

Edited by Spiderman (29 Aug 2023 6.14pm)

Factory farming is bad. But it may be best if we do keep farming.

Therefore we must change farming methods.

The uk led the world. But then we had this government. We now cannot easily prevent importing food produced in far less environmentally aware countries and are presiding over a failing farming system.

This is an example of what can be done

[Link]

Dubai Eagle 04 Sep 23 6.39am
With my virtually zero knowledge of farming techniques, practices & the issues that they face, like him or hate him but Jeremy Clarkson with his "On the Farm" program probably did more to highlight some of the problems facing UK farmers today (in a way that ordinary people can understand) than almost any amount of government papers & news bulletins. Originally posted by Mapletree Factory farming is bad. But it may be best if we do keep farming. Therefore we must change farming methods. The uk led the world. But then we had this government. We now cannot easily prevent importing food produced in far less environmentally aware countries and are presiding over a failing farming system. This is an example of what can be done [Link]

Dubai Eagle

04 Sep 23 6.39am

With my virtually zero knowledge of farming techniques, practices & the issues that they face, like him or hate him but Jeremy Clarkson with his "On the Farm" program probably did more to highlight some of the problems facing UK farmers today (in a way that ordinary people can understand) than almost any amount of government papers & news bulletins.

Originally posted by Mapletree

Factory farming is bad. But it may be best if we do keep farming.

Therefore we must change farming methods.

This is an example of what can be done

[Link]

cryrst The garden of England 05 Sep 23 8.42pm
[Link] Can you imagine the outcry over here.

cryrst

The garden of England 05 Sep 23 8.42pm

[Link]

Can you imagine the outcry over here.

Badger11 Beckenham 07 Sep 23 7.57am
Hmmm so lots of people have found a way to defeat the number plate recognition cameras. This doesn't bode well for the plan to get people to pay by the mile. As I said in previous posts the honest will pay and no doubt get angry at the dishonest. [Link] According to this article some 40% of taxi drivers use this stuff. They should lose their licences not hard just go to the local taxi firm check their cars any with this stuff get done. Edited by Badger11 (07 Sep 2023 7.59am) One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 07 Sep 23 7.57am

Hmmm so lots of people have found a way to defeat the number plate recognition cameras.

This doesn't bode well for the plan to get people to pay by the mile. As I said in previous posts the honest will pay and no doubt get angry at the dishonest.

[Link]

According to this article some 40% of taxi drivers use this stuff.

They should lose their licences not hard just go to the local taxi firm check their cars any with this stuff get done.

Edited by Badger11 (07 Sep 2023 7.59am)

One more point

steeleye20 Croydon 07 Sep 23 10.14am
Sadiq Khan gives his backing to a new railway link connecting Heathrow Airport with south west London, Surrey, Berkshire and Hampshire. This looks quite feasible and unlike HS2 uses existing track except for the terminal 5 to existing south west network, joining at Staines. The sooner they dump HS2 the better, there would be a stop at Old Oak Common if it was ever built, but that's all. Best left to the next labour government.

steeleye20

Croydon 07 Sep 23 10.14am

Sadiq Khan gives his backing to a new railway link connecting Heathrow Airport with south west London, Surrey, Berkshire and Hampshire.

This looks quite feasible and unlike HS2 uses existing track except for the terminal 5 to existing south west network, joining at Staines.

The sooner they dump HS2 the better, there would be a stop at Old Oak Common if it was ever built, but that's all.

Best left to the next labour government.

Badger11 Beckenham 07 Sep 23 10.26am
Originally posted by steeleye20 Sadiq Khan gives his backing to a new railway link connecting Heathrow Airport with south west London, Surrey, Berkshire and Hampshire. This looks quite feasible and unlike HS2 uses existing track except for the terminal 5 to existing south west network, joining at Staines. The sooner they dump HS2 the better, there would be a stop at Old Oak Common if it was ever built, but that's all. Best left to the next labour government. Agreed however there is one fly in the anointment. Apparently this would require a lot of level crossings in certain places so the company behind the scheme is suggesting tunneling is the answer, paid for by the taxpayer of course. Given how HS2 and Crossrail has been a disaster by both Tories and Labour it does not bode well. Plus Khan couldn't organise a prayer in a Mosque. It would be great if it did happen as one of the legs would mean you could catch a Heathrow train from Waterloo. For those of us south of the river the current journey is a bit of a pain. Anyway the devil is in the detail. Edited by Badger11 (07 Sep 2023 10.28am) One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 07 Sep 23 10.26am

Originally posted by steeleye20

Sadiq Khan gives his backing to a new railway link connecting Heathrow Airport with south west London, Surrey, Berkshire and Hampshire.

This looks quite feasible and unlike HS2 uses existing track except for the terminal 5 to existing south west network, joining at Staines.

The sooner they dump HS2 the better, there would be a stop at Old Oak Common if it was ever built, but that's all.

Best left to the next labour government.

Agreed however there is one fly in the anointment. Apparently this would require a lot of level crossings in certain places so the company behind the scheme is suggesting tunneling is the answer, paid for by the taxpayer of course.

Given how HS2 and Crossrail has been a disaster by both Tories and Labour it does not bode well. Plus Khan couldn't organise a prayer in a Mosque.

It would be great if it did happen as one of the legs would mean you could catch a Heathrow train from Waterloo. For those of us south of the river the current journey is a bit of a pain.

Anyway the devil is in the detail.

Edited by Badger11 (07 Sep 2023 10.28am)

One more point

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