You and your twin need to understand the difference between absolute and relative. In relative terms the Irish immigration was very high compared to the population at the time.

I see Migration Watch also suffers from that weakness.

Yes, let's talk about 'relative' and accuracy.

Firstly, the population during the 19th century was rising rapidly. It nearly tripled from ten million to over 30 million. Irish migration to Britain had been going on since the middle ages and even during the famine never got above 805,000. 100,000 were in London.
Many of the famine migrants then moved to America in the following years reducing the Irish net population down to 524,000 by 1921 in a total population of around 43 Million.
So, 1 million Irish never came to came to Britain during the famine and the ones that did come, represented a little over 1% of the British population and a lot of that number left for elsewhere.

Not comparable with the current endless deluge is it.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (07 Oct 2017 5.13pm)

Can anyone just roll off the street at the con conference? If these are the people trusted to keep us safe, im getting a tad concerned that they might not be up to the job !

One has to register to attend 'Conference' providing personal details and the application needs to be approved by the party and the local Police authority which for Manchester was the Greater Manchester Police.

Edited by Willo (07 Oct 2017 6.41pm)

Why are you making such a big deal about the Irish anyway? You might as well make a big deal about Welsh and Scottish 'immigration'. All part of the geographical area known as the British Isles.

Here is what most people in the country (including immigrants themselves) think about the levels of immigration:

Six out of ten people put immigration and asylum in the top three troubles facing the country, according to a Times/YouGov poll reported in January 2016.
60% of first and second generation immigrants said they feel that migration to the UK should be reduced, NatCen Social Research’s British Social Attitudes survey 2013.
75% thought the level of immigration into Britain in the last ten years had been too high, YouGov poll from February 2015.
95% of Britons believed new immigrants should speak English, a NatCen social research survey found in June 2015.
77% want to see a reduction of immigration into Britain, British Social Attitudes Survey Jan 2014.
78% support the government’s aim to reduce net migration to the tens of thousands, including 70% of those who voted Liberal Democrat in the 2010 General Election, YouGov for The Sunday Times, January 2012
68% believe that immigration has a negative effect on Britain, YouGov for The Sunday Times, January 2012
66% believe that immigration has had a negative impact on the availability of jobs, Ipsos Mori for British Future, January 2012.
88% believe that immigrants who are unable to speak English or unwilling to integrate have created ‘discomfort and disjointedness’ in British communities, YouGov for The Sunday Times, April 2011.
72% disagreed that an amnesty should be granted to illegal immigrants in Britain, YouGov for Migration Watch UK, June 2006. 12% believe that immigration had changed their local community for the better, 88% disagreed. Searchlight Educational Trust, February 2011,

Edited by hedgehog50 (07 Oct 2017 7.16pm)

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]