Mr Bean..??

I think part of the point is that he doesn’t take his share of the blame.

We win and he takes the credit. It’s the system, his talent, his experience.

We lose and

“The players didn’t do what was asked” or “the players need to learn from this”

Considering how he bangs on about his experience, Stevie Wonder could tell you some of our issues. Schlupp is not a right winger, Milo
is playing badly, MacArthur is knackered and PVA is the biggest liability out there

Yet we have the players to do his system but he will not drop his favourites even if they are playing badly or are knackered.

Our genius manager couldn’t use Camarasa, Meyer, Reidiwald etc and now has managed to take Eze and Zaha and nullify them too. He should build his team round them.

There’s a reason he failed at every big job and the malaise that happened with England is setting in. Roy once said he should be thought of in the same breath of as Ferguson.

The entire issue with Roy is he has his favourites and picks them, the rest are shoehorned in. We have real talent in Townsend, Zaha, Eze, Benteke but they are afterthoughts to jamming in dross like Milo, PVA, Schlupp (on the right) and a knackered Jimmy Mac.

Edited by robdave2k (26 Dec 2020 6.41pm)

Been one of Roy’s biggest supporters since he’s been here but I have now had enough and think it’s time for a change.
If we lose on Monday then I think they need to get someone new in to hopefully get that bounce for the Sheffield Utd game.

There was a brief respite when we started looking half decent, however we now have far too many performances where we are totally out played and out classed.

At the start of the season, I was firmly in the Roy out camp, had a change of heart when he changed his tactics to 4-4-2, but now I think he has finally run his course, looks totally out of ideas and is worryingly set with his preferred player selections and his bizarre substitutions.

Pardew's last 20 games before being sacked:

18 points
29 goals scored
38 goals conceded

Hodgson's last 20 games:

19 points
20 goals scored
35 goals conceded

Despite us having a better squad we have gone backwards.

I believe every word from other fans from clubs such as West Brom and Fulham who warn of replacing Hodgson right now - do it at the end of the season - the grass isn't always greener and I don't know who people see as a replacement? The likes of Howe wouldn't come to Palace...

Every club will have a run of bad results in a season - looks like Palace's is now.

After the last 2 results, there will plenty of knee jerk on these pages - for what it's worth, 2 weeks ago 5 live pundits were calling this the best team which Palace have had since being back at the Prem.

Hodgson's undoing is, at last, age and a lack of pace is starting to show within the squad.

Macarthur has slowed down, and Miliojovic has become completely ineffective over the past season - between them over the past 2 seasons, they have formed the defensive bedrock which has allowed Palace to try and press as a defensive unit.

Behind these 2 - and the back 4 have no pace at all.
Kouyate has no conviction adn is not a CB and I thought, today, Dann looked about 40 years old whilst, defensively, Van Aanholt has always been a liability.

Cahill, if fit, and Tomkins should start at CB on Monday, with Ward and Schlupp either side.

All well and good having the likes of Eze on the pitch for his creativity and flair - but if he is going to play as a winger then defensively he isn't at the level of Townsend - whose role becomes even more important defensively when J Mac and Milo are slowing down - especially when PVA constantly pushes forward and gets caught short.

Palace will not go down and will finish comfortably mid table IMO - Roy is the man to see this season out before moving on.
Also think this is the last season of semi regular game time for Macarthur, Dann and Ward.

Blaming Hodgson is the easy thing to do right now - but other than starting Tomkins and Mccarthy today as opposed to Dann and Miliojovic, I wouldnt have done much different..... wonder if Chelsea fans will be screaming for Lampard out tonight?

Pardew was sacked in December but when he was relieved of his duties we only had 15 pts from 17 pts and were 17th just a point above the relegation zone.

I have always backed Roy but times up and I think give someone with a palace connection a go! Maybe Sean Derry, paddy McCarthy or even Mike jedinak (how is his coaching badge coming on) I’m sick of old man shares coming in , we want someone with some spunk!!!

“This is a crisis, a large crisis.... in fact if you have a moment, it’s a 12 storey crisis, magnificent entrance hall, carpeting throughout, 24 hour portage , and an enormous sign on the roof saying “This , is a large crisis” - Edmund Blackadder

Fair play to you for naming someone, it's more than most people on this thread can manage.

But, and with respect, you'd put the future of the club in the hands of one of three men who have never, ever, in their whole lives, even managed a professional first team?

Can you see my point?

Edited by TheBigToePunt (26 Dec 2020 7.25pm)

Shaun Derry managed notts county , professionally and yes I would! Coz it might give us some drive and ambition, as I said I have been well in the Roy camp for months however anything is better than this

“This is a crisis, a large crisis.... in fact if you have a moment, it’s a 12 storey crisis, magnificent entrance hall, carpeting throughout, 24 hour portage , and an enormous sign on the roof saying “This , is a large crisis” - Edmund Blackadder