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 sickboy  Deal or Croydon 21 Nov 19 12.23pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Poignant. Point is Stirls why weren't they taught about the wars in school, or that we once had an Empire as did many other countries and cultures.
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| W12 21 Nov 19 12.24pm | |
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Originally posted by sickboy
My kids are now in their mid 20s. If Corbyn gets in, maybe consider staying in Poland.
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| sickboy Deal or Croydon 21 Nov 19 12.27pm |
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Originally posted by W12
If Corbyn gets in, maybe consider staying in Poland. If he does i will seriously consider it.
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| Invalid user 2019 21 Nov 19 12.33pm |
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Westminster voting intention: CON: 44% (+3) LAB: 28% (+4) LDEM: 16% (-4) GRN: 3% (-) BREX: 3% (-4) via @IpsosMORI , 15 - 19 Nov Chgs. w/ Oct
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| Stirlingsays 21 Nov 19 12.45pm |
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Originally posted by sickboy
Point is Stirls why weren't they taught about the wars in school, or that we once had an Empire as did many other countries and cultures. As we know Europeans have a mainly middle class group that we can refer to as 'white liberals who.....far more than any other group, have a bias again their own (not all of them obviously). White liberals tend toward the significant majorities in education as in media. It's the sh1te self hating sandwich we are all aware of. Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Nov 2019 12.45pm)
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Attachment: | sickboy Deal or Croydon 21 Nov 19 12.56pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
As we know Europeans have a mainly middle class group that we can refer to as 'white liberals who.....far more than any other group, have a bias again their own (not all of them obviously). White liberals tend toward the significant majorities in education as in media. It's the sh1te self hating sandwich we are all aware of. Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Nov 2019 12.45pm) The scary thing is, they cant be reasoned with.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 21 Nov 19 1.26pm |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
If you are genuinely interested, it's worth listening to John McDonnell lay out how labour policy will guide the next revolution in automation in the workplace. This is a good interview: [Link] Or you can keep listening to Boris saying 'Get Brexit Done' whilst w***ing in to a Union Jack hanckerchief.
I listened to about the first 30 mins its a little too long to hold my attention (applies to any party). He identifies some of the potential future issues it's his solutions I disagree with. When you are faced with the real propsect of mass unemployment due to automation a 30 hour week on full pay (4 day week) aint the answer. He is correct that broadband is a big issue and the government must take some of the blame. However for most normal people who live in cities I see the future as wireless broadband in which case Openreach will be saddled with an expensive to maintain physical infrastructure. I think it's better to force the technology companies to solve the black spot issues through legislation, fines and threat of losing their licence, how they deliver it is a commercial decision. He talks about job opportunities in the 4th industrial age and yes their are but I would be more worried about the existing entry level jobs which are starting to disappear now and that pace will only increase as automation kicks in. To be fair to Labour I haven't heard much from the Tories that convinces me that they know the answer either but at least they are not promising to throw billions at nationalising industries that will be come an albatross around the taxpayers neck. Anyway thanks for the video.
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 SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 21 Nov 19 1.28pm |
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Originally posted by sickboy
Point is Stirls why weren't they taught about the wars in school, or that we once had an Empire as did many other countries and cultures. Depends which system they're in. From experience private education is much broader and covered most of those topics, from slavery and abolition through to world wars, the fall of communism and so on. Granted that was 20 years ago but knowing plenty of people who went through the state system, it's nowhere near as expansive, in pretty much all areas.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 21 Nov 19 1.29pm |
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Originally posted by dollardays
Westminster voting intention: CON: 44% (+3) LAB: 28% (+4) LDEM: 16% (-4) GRN: 3% (-) BREX: 3% (-4) via @IpsosMORI , 15 - 19 Nov Chgs. w/ Oct From that poll the Brexit party is rapidly becoming an irrelevance.
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| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 21 Nov 19 1.34pm |
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Originally posted by sickboy
The scary thing is, they cant be reasoned with. 'Hangs out' His approach is nothing new. Talking to both sides can bring about positive solutions. Also, it's often far more beneficial to engage with those you dislike or oppose, rather than put your fingers in your ears and continue sliding down your own personal rabbit hole. Note, engage. Listen. Not agree. Try it sometime, you might learn something.
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| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 21 Nov 19 1.35pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
From that poll the Brexit party is rapidly becoming an irrelevance. It's finished. The moment he climbed down that was that. It's calculated though, Farage comes out of it well and with his well ground axe intact.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 21 Nov 19 1.38pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
To what purpose though? If you're going to look at empire then why fixate upon the British? As for the idea of an 'independent' UN panel....I'm not one who thinks that's possible, these things are inherently subjective. As ever, who is selecting and judging the judges and what are their biases?....You'd need an 'independent' panel for that.....it's a looping nightmare.
Exactly. Whenever the UN produces a report the MSM treat it like Moses handing down the 10 commandments. They conveniently forget that the UN is incredibly political and that like minded governments bind together to hijack key parts of the organisation. Look how many dodgy countries get elected onto the Human Rights body. There is an inbuilt bias against the USA and Israel and plenty of countries are more than willing to line up to give the UK a black eye just for good measure. They would love to have a UN commission on the evil empire but will happily squash any conversations around their misdeeds. Sometimes I think Corbyn is just a willing fool.
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| sickboy Deal or Croydon 21 Nov 19 1.43pm |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
'Hangs out' His approach is nothing new. Talking to both sides can bring about positive solutions. Also, it's often far more beneficial to engage with those you dislike or oppose, rather than put your fingers in your ears and continue sliding down your own personal rabbit hole. Note, engage. Listen. Not agree. Try it sometime, you might learn something. Thanks for proving my point.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 21 Nov 19 1.49pm |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
'Hangs out' His approach is nothing new. Talking to both sides can bring about positive solutions. Also, it's often far more beneficial to engage with those you dislike or oppose, rather than put your fingers in your ears and continue sliding down your own personal rabbit hole. Note, engage. Listen. Not agree. Try it sometime, you might learn something. The issue I had with Corbyn talking to the terrorists was that he represented no one but himself. Naturally the Tories wanted nothing to do with him but the Labour party of Blair also distanced itself from him whilst they negotiated with the terrorists. Some of the IRA leaders have gone on record saying they use Corbyn to embarrass the government but that was all, once the discussions started he was ignored. Some people have tried to rewrite history and suggest that Corbyn played a role in bringing peace to NI. He didn't, lots of other people did play a role from all walks of life the most you can say of Corbyn was that he was consistent protestor and campaigner for a United Ireland. Nothing wrong in talking to both sides I look forward to him having meetings with Israel and protestant terrorists something he so far has not managed in his busy schedule.
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| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 21 Nov 19 1.54pm |
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Originally posted by sickboy
Thanks for proving my point. You've no point to prove brah. Clearly too partisan for that. Try? I definitely succeeded.
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| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 21 Nov 19 1.57pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
The issue I had with Corbyn talking to the terrorists was that he represented no one but himself. Naturally the Tories wanted nothing to do with him but the Labour party of Blair also distanced itself from him whilst they negotiated with the terrorists. Some of the IRA leaders have gone on record saying they use Corbyn to embarrass the government but that was all, once the discussions started he was ignored. Some people have tried to rewrite history and suggest that Corbyn played a role in bringing peace to NI. He didn't, lots of other people did play a role from all walks of life the most you can say of Corbyn was that he was consistent protestor and campaigner for a United Ireland. Nothing wrong in talking to both sides I look forward to him having meetings with Israel and protestant terrorists something he so far has not managed in his busy schedule. Ah. A reasoned response. Pretty much agree with all of it.
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| sickboy Deal or Croydon 21 Nov 19 2.06pm |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
You've no point to prove brah. Clearly too partisan for that. Try? I definitely succeeded. Brah?
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| sickboy Deal or Croydon 21 Nov 19 2.08pm |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Ah. A reasoned response. Pretty much agree with all of it. Wooshh.
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| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 21 Nov 19 2.08pm |
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Originally posted by sickboy
Brah? Haha. So partisan. I wonder what it's like to live in a black and white world
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